Slingloading & Longlining
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From: canada
Generally speaking if someone is asking for "long-line' experience or proficiency, they're expecting at least a 100ft line with your head out the door/window. Multi crew line work doesn't really cut it.
Some work can be done on a 50ft line, but mostly 100, 120, 130, 150ft is considered "vertical reference long-lining." At least here in Canada.
RH
Some work can be done on a 50ft line, but mostly 100, 120, 130, 150ft is considered "vertical reference long-lining." At least here in Canada.
RH
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From: Beyond the black stump!
I agree with remote hook. Operators are talking about vertical reference operations, not a specific long-line length.
Typical long-lines are in the 100-250 foot length, dependent upon the requirements of the job.
The individual operator will be the one determining your competence in long-line operations, for production type operations. In fire fighting operations, you may be required to define your experience in this type of operation, in addition to demonstrating your proficiency to a pilot inspector, prior to being approved for operations.
It all depends where you go, and who you ask!
Typical long-lines are in the 100-250 foot length, dependent upon the requirements of the job.
The individual operator will be the one determining your competence in long-line operations, for production type operations. In fire fighting operations, you may be required to define your experience in this type of operation, in addition to demonstrating your proficiency to a pilot inspector, prior to being approved for operations.
It all depends where you go, and who you ask!
Joined: Mar 2005
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From: australia
Heliduck,
As far as I am aware you can't hook straight into that. Last time I looked it up it said that you have to have 40hrs of Air attack on fires to fly the bucket, and mustering ag and low level wont do. I also think you need a 100hrs on type to fight fires and a bucket endorsement with some duel fire training.....but this was a while ago i looked up those regs. You will find the government are the controlling hand it the specific requirements in regards to fires...
As far as I am aware you can't hook straight into that. Last time I looked it up it said that you have to have 40hrs of Air attack on fires to fly the bucket, and mustering ag and low level wont do. I also think you need a 100hrs on type to fight fires and a bucket endorsement with some duel fire training.....but this was a while ago i looked up those regs. You will find the government are the controlling hand it the specific requirements in regards to fires...
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Earth.
Sling Loading???
Can some of you guys help me...
I am looking at getting approval to do under-slung load work in the UK. What do I have to do to be able to do it and is there any restrictions on what helicopter types can be used?
Cheers guys,
TiP
I am looking at getting approval to do under-slung load work in the UK. What do I have to do to be able to do it and is there any restrictions on what helicopter types can be used?
Cheers guys,
TiP
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Home
Let's see...
EC 120 empty: 1036kg
Pilot 94kg
Fuel 1.5 hrs 132kg
Bambi 50kg
total: 1312kg
MAUW 1715kg
Leaves for water 403kg
So that would lead to the 96gal or 395 kg model.
Fires are hot...
Are you going to push that 120 that hard? Or will it be for training only?
Cheers
Sorry look here: http://www.sei-ind.com/temp/20061151079/BB-TV.pdf
EC 120 empty: 1036kg
Pilot 94kg
Fuel 1.5 hrs 132kg
Bambi 50kg
total: 1312kg
MAUW 1715kg
Leaves for water 403kg
So that would lead to the 96gal or 395 kg model.
Fires are hot...
Are you going to push that 120 that hard? Or will it be for training only?
Cheers
Sorry look here: http://www.sei-ind.com/temp/20061151079/BB-TV.pdf
Joined: Sep 2001
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From: CA
Glasses or contacts for longlining?
Age is slowly catching up to me and I have started to wear a contact in one eye. I can fly without the bloody thing but it reduces the eye fatigue.
My issue is with longline op's. I am struggling with the what seems to be the contact drying in the slipstream and causing a blurring of vision and trouble with depth perception as a result. Trying to hold a load steady with one eye shut at 200ft or blinking madly is starting to wear a bit thin.
Does anyone else out there working longlines (without the door on) and using contacts or glasses have any advice to what works the best and what they prefer to wear?
My issue is with longline op's. I am struggling with the what seems to be the contact drying in the slipstream and causing a blurring of vision and trouble with depth perception as a result. Trying to hold a load steady with one eye shut at 200ft or blinking madly is starting to wear a bit thin.
Does anyone else out there working longlines (without the door on) and using contacts or glasses have any advice to what works the best and what they prefer to wear?
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From: Harwich
I don't do this kind of thing for a living, but I (a specs/contacts wearer) did ride motorbikes and a decent pair of goggles (with ventilation but no draughts) is a wonderful thing. If you're wearing a helmet, is there a visor that fits on that?
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From: Redding CA, or on a fire somewhere
I had the same problem till I switched lens type. See you optician, (not the cheap eye places---they wont carry a broad selection), and explain whats happening and ask for different lenses to try, (they only cost pennies). I don't have my case with me---but I believe they are "hydro....something".
Gatvol
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From: KLAS/TIST/FAJS/KFAI
Come on Steve......Wake up a bit. Its that Tequilla shot glass thats stuck in your eye thats blurring your vision. Take it out and replace and the other with Jagermeister shot glasses.........You may not see real good, but you wont be worried either......
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From: Matanuska Valley, Alaska (The mind wanders back to the village of Plympton Devon sometimes)
Steve 76
I haven't tried LL with contacts but find it is no real problem with glasses. If you are using biofocals then have them switch the near sighted portion of the glass to the top, this illiminates the need to continually move your head up and down and the DP problem will go away. Progressive lenses are not a good idea for LL either.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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From: UK
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From: In Canada's breastland ...mmmm
Never had a problem with my contacts when I was wearing them doing any king of flying. You might need a different kind.
I find glasses don't give you the same periferal vision without having to move your head... my 2 cents.
Fly safe my mate!!!
I find glasses don't give you the same periferal vision without having to move your head... my 2 cents.
Fly safe my mate!!!
