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Old 13th October 2005 | 17:59
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Multiple Landings

Chippy, for no more than your curiosity!! Any more than 10 movements from any one site in 24 hours constitutes multiple landings i.e. 5 landings and 5 take offs. After this number of movements (public transport aircraft / operators) are required to provide full fire fighting facilities (RFFS). Private Cat don't have to bother.

As for animals, any low level stuff has to take these into consideration - plenty of problems with the CLAIM everything and anything nature going on!!
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Old 13th October 2005 | 19:05
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Dear chippy,

My thanks for your comprehensive analysis of my mental health. It seems to me that you have a problem reading - you only read between the lines, not the actual lines themselves. Hence, you missed my humour and my suggestion that your time might be better spent helping Asian earthquake victims.......you seemed to think of Asia and the Middle East as some sort of playground.

Perhaps that's why you, as a pilot since the 60s, cannot find what you need on the CAA website. I promise you that a few minutes, and even fewer clicks, will elicit not only the Air Navigation Order CAP 393, but also guidelines, in the CAA's Safety Sense leaflets, for helicopter pilots. You could also look at the BHAB website which will show you how to safely construct and operate your own landing site.

There are those who suggest that too much banking can be bad for you. Be careful.
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Old 13th October 2005 | 20:11
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Which neatly provides a forum for me to ask for clarification as to whether or not Rule 5 applies for a helicopter landing at a private site. For example landing in your mate's house and not only are you within 500ft of his house but you must fly within 500 ft of a neighbouring house. Presumably since you are landing or take-ing off, Rule 5 does not restrict you?

And before i get nailed... i am asking as a fixed wing PPL who has just had his first lesson in a Bell 47 and is completed hooked already.

Cheers, SC
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Old 13th October 2005 | 21:38
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It does NOT apply.
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Old 14th October 2005 | 08:35
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I sit to be corrected, but I believe the rule spefically does not apply for take-offs and landings, otherwise we'd never be able to get up into the air, or maybe back down onto the ground.
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Old 14th October 2005 | 15:05
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got my first interview with off shore next week , all sounds a bit doughting
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Old 14th October 2005 | 19:44
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Most animals don't give a hoot about helicopters
Don't you believe it!

Sheep will usually move away(in a bunch as you would expect), at varying speeds.

Cows will generally ignore you if not too close, but young ones can get a bit skitish.

Horses are by far the worse. Unless they are used to helicopters, they will generally go crazy, and will easily crash through a fence to get away. Avoid them like the plague.
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Old 15th October 2005 | 20:47
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Squirrel,There's a funny thing, most of my pilot and ret'd pilot friends, civil and mil, do use pprune. Bit of a message for you there, maybe. And, yes, some of the more helpful brethren have more than answered my question. To them, greetings, to the rest of you,....
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Old 16th October 2005 | 00:27
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Most animals don't give a hoot about helicopters
Watch out for dogs .................. especially on a Saturday night

The four legged variety tend to try run at and try to chase the helicopter away. I had one barking and jumping at the tail rotor once. I couldn't get airborne quick enough. Oddly enough the owner (of the four legged dog) didn't seem phased at all.
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Old 16th October 2005 | 09:01
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landing in a field

"Ah" now all becomes clear 10 years in the sun.
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Old 19th October 2005 | 21:25
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Mightygem

re sheep

I started up in a field that had a bit of a slope on it last summer.
After a couple of minutes I was surrounded by a complete white semi circle of sheep with little black faces staring at the heli about 50 yrds away. You never have that camera when you need it.
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Old 19th October 2005 | 23:38
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Cool

A camera is part of the MEL

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