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Old 28th Jul 2005, 19:51
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World Helicopter Championships Rouen

IS this event definately running

If it is running, does anyone have any details such as accomodation, costs for people to go over and watch / be involved

Look forward to hearing some news (just a shame it is not in the UK as my French is Schoolboy and very RUSTY).

Hope to get some information over the limited amount on the HCGB and Organisers website

Thanks

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Hi Jerry
its on from the 15th to the 20th of August.
There is loads of reasonably priced good quality accommodation in and around Rouen and Le Havre, if you want to travel a little ther is also Deuville, Trouville or Honfleur and the little coast road between them where there are lots of small hotels, B&Bs etc.
I can reccommend Trouville...espescially for its seafood restaurants, which are very reasonably priced. The only thing to watch out for is if it is the Paris hols time...loads of parisiennes go to Deauville and Trouville, and it does become quite busy.
Hope to see you there if I can get away for a few days!!
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Angel Russians kick ass in World helicopter championships

Russians wrap up victory in 12th World Helicopter Championship in France
13:28 | 21/ 08/ 2005


ROUEN (France), August 21 (RIA Novosti) -The 12th World Helicopter Championship in Rouen, France, ended in a decisive victory of Russian pilots Saturday.

Vladimir Zyablikov and Vladimir Gladchenko became all-round champions. Viktor Korotayev and Nikolai Burov, who also guided Mi-2 helicopters, claimed silver.

The results of competitions in separate categories are also impressive. Russians were second to none in all competitions but the navigation contest, in which French pilots took the first prize.

Russian sportsmen were undisputed leaders in the team classification too, scoring over a hundred points over French pilots following them.
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any vids or links to the event??
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Those Russian guys in their MILs were great, there's no doubt. But in the freestyle, as far as I'm concerned, they came second to the great Dennis Kenyon !
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Freestyle with a 3,5 to ship? These guys are so good because the Mi-2 is stable like a rock

No, of course great respect to our russian friends!
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I too was lucky enough to see the freestyle competition, and also heard the comment from the Russian Team Manager, that they would not win as the display by Dennis kenyon was so good !!

Love to know why the judges did not agree

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JJ. The only thing that I can think of is that Dennis appeared, to me, to fly outside the display box.

As I understand the rules this would have given him a severe mark down.

It was a wonderful display.
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That box....
The plan I saw, showed it going right over to the other side of taxiway T1, almost as far as the the pumps and the other side of 04/22, with the midpoint being the centre of the VIP area.
Can only assume I saw the wrong plan and so did Dennis
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Dennis K said he has no problems staying within the box provided it is actually marked properly on the ground. He gave a great display never the less.
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I need to re-post what I said before as I was having a tough day when I removed the original post.

I take my hat off to the Russian Pilots. I mean really, look at their track record.

Liberia, wonderful close-in recce of those hills, (ouch).

Cote d'Ivoire, Great night training techniques in Daloa, (ouch)!

Hey, you guys are the best at that!

Cheers, from someone who knows.

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splitneedles - that will be the answer then.

I could see the box, but only because I could see where the judges were sat. If it was not marked properly (no suprise with the French organisation) then that would have made it difficult.
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WHC

The organisation at Rouen was a joke. Its hard to believe that this is supposed to be the premier competition event for helios in the world.

The published rules were flouted, the most flagrangt violations were the use of mobile phones on one of the team events (this was photographed and the evidence pinned on the wall by a member of the British team), and the use of echo sounders for hover events. None of this elicited any action by the competition director. Instead, silly penalties were levied on Carolyn Gough Cooper for touching skids twice on a sloping and pot-holed landing site. Her skilful handling of the situation deserved so much better.


But surely the worst decision was the freestyle section. Dennis Kenyon's display was a smooth, accurate and exciting demonstration of the Schweizer 300's agility and pilot skill. The range of manouevres included pirouettes, wing overs, and ended with an autorotation to the ground, with his skids making contact to the split second of the final note of the musical accompaniment.

His display produced easily the largest ovation of the day, and I didn't hear a single person who wasn't certain that Dennis had won. Even the Russian team manager was reported to have said that his team had 'been beaten by the Schweizer 300 display'.

Having given what was undoubtedly the best display, Dennis was placed last in the competition - even behind the MD500 entrant
who almost collided with the ground after he lost control and nearly failed to recover from a manoeuvre.

The best display was penalised by several marks for apparently leaving the display box just once, although Dennis has since said that he couldn't see the thin boundary strips pinned in the long grass, which could barely be seen from 20 feet away, let alone at 500 feet!

For such an important competition, it beggars belief that the organisors didn't use the usual airfield markers, which would have been clearly visible to the competitors. The result would have been different if they had used basic common sense and proper organisational skills.

So, the best display came last - and we don't even know yet how the judges arrived at their decision as the points scores haven't been published yet. They will make very interesting reason when (if?) they come into the public domain.

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Freestyle event World Champs. Rouen

Hallo guys/gals out there.

First a thanks for the nice comments on my Rouen display in the freestyle section, but can I put a pennorth or two of info into the pot.

The French organisation was indeed sadly lacking, ie, echo sounders being used for more accurate height control, radiophones while in competition when the rules specificaly banned the use of electronic devices. Indeed, a photograph of the offending pilot was actually posted on the wall for all to see, but which was politically ignored by the competition director.

The fender flying section was expected to be flown into a stiff breeze that had shifted to a downwind position. Not the way I would have wanted to fly. Possibly even dangerous.

I understand Carolyn Gough Cooper, when faced with a sloping pot holed landing site, sensibly elected to reposition the R22 skids, only to be handed a penalty for landing twice ! All a bit sad. But her overall skillful flying got her a first place in the ladies section. Well done indeed.

Curiously the commentary was totally in French. It would have been nice for the non French speaking competitors to know what was going on too.

Turning to my own problems, I'd have to say that the display routine I flew was probably as good and technically correct as anything I have ever done, with a couple of new manoeuvres included. Trying not to sound too sour grapish, at the conclusion I felt I had a good place in the bag, only to be told, I had busted a display line and finished last but one.

For the record, I never ever saw the display box limits, since at 100 knots entering a 360 degree wing-over, there's precious little time to look for a one metre marker ribbon, pinned into the longish grass.

So prior to the event, I examined the published rules and the 500 metre square display box and established some easily seen competition area markers that co-incided with the published display area. ie the south westerly Taxiway one and the north easterly pax terminal building. I certainly did not bust either of those two lines. But I later realised that the published display box as illustrated was a rectangle !! Presumably the French idea of a 500 metre square box. Looking back I can see the markers laid down on the day, bore no resemblance to the published ones!

With significant VHF assistance from my display manager, we did end the routine with a full stop autorotation and a skid touch down to within a split second of the 'Bolero's last note slide into the A Major finish. Maurice Ravel's French music and split-second timing.... More brownie points or so I thought!

I was more than suprised though to learn that the MD 500 pilot who came within ten feet of disaster, following a fierce cyclic pull back when downwind, finishing yards and yards (sorry metres & metres) past some parked aircraft, was nevertheless placed above my own efforts.

Ah well.... that's aviation, and I've no complaints. Its all a bit like cricket, if the umpire gives you out. YOU ARE OUT, whether you were out or not.

Overall a great weekend's flying, and thanks to all those who worked so hard to get the whole event going and to those who supported our British Team.

Some day my Prince will come.

Oh and please visit the forthcoming Shoreham RAFA air show, 3rd/4th September. I'm dropping 1000 tennis balls from 1000 feet for my son's scholarsip fund. Please buy a ball if you come. And I've a first novel out, again for scholarship funds.

"Appointment on Lake Michigan" is just £9.95 and is a good helicopter read, if not a classic. Available on the net, from www.electrocution.com.

Keep rooting for rotors, you hover lovers.

Dennis K.
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Hey Dennis, seen what the French are doing with Lance Armstrong now!

I read here in the last few days that you are going to retire. Is that correct?

I have had the pleasure of witnessing your displays a couple of times over the years, and must state that they are always truly exceptional. At the various helicopter shows, you always get even the most jaded old helicopter people out there and put a big smile on their faces as they remember the fun that this business is supposed to be about, and watch a helicopter doing what it can really do.

Too bad about this competition, blame the Olympic committee!


Are you going to be at Helitech this year?
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Rouen WHC2005

Hallo Cyclic hotline,

Thanks for the kind words and its always nice to know, pilots enjoy my display routines. But.... but, I really am wanting to retire from the wonderful world of heli aviation. I've loved every day, (apart from the March 2000 horror) I've met some wonderful peopleand visited some lovely countries. We professionals who are able to earn our living from the industry are fortunate indeed. I have to pinch myself when I know I am getting paid to do something that is so enjoyable.

I occasionally say to my customers, helicopters are totally addictive, so take up drugs.... they're cheaper!!

At the end of September, I plan to stop the instructing and commercial flying and spend more time on my other interests. Golf of course.... travel for pleasure..... and writing, if my first novel gets any success. Any profits on the new book will go to my son's scholarship fund, so please buy it!!!

Its a thriller with helicopter action on most pages and overall I think its a good yarn, but far from a classic. Perhaps the sort of book you should read on a plane journey.

Its called "Appointment on Lake Michigan" and is presently available from the publisher, www.electrocution.com/aviation.
£9.95. Later in the shops.

Next please visit the Shoreham RAFA Air Show on 3rd/4th Sept, when I do my 405th and probably last public display. I'm also dropping 1000 tennis balls from 1000 feet into a target dustbin. Come and buy a ball, knowing that your contribution plops straight into the scholarship fund, and the winner gets a ride in the display helicopter at the show.

We are also doing a DVD, being a compilation of the best displays over the years. Again with all receipts going to the scholarship fund. Hopefully available in the shops for Christmas. For this I am so indebted to another pilot colleague, Jeremy Justice and his associate, Matt Love.

I would still like to display from time to time, or run a 'duo' team with two youngsters with aerobatic experience. But we need a solid sponsor and I've no illusions on how difficult that is.

Finally on the scholarship again, the 2005 winner is a super young lady, Hannah Nobbs, Hannah is studying at Southampton Uni, in Aerospace Engineering. She started her training at Shoreham three weeks ago, has solo''d and about to do the qualifying x-country. Hopefully the PPL(H) will be hers in the next two weeks. The previous winner, another fine lady Zoe Spain is up to 125 hours and working her way to the 155 needed to start her commercial course. It does give me a great deal of pleasure to see these youngsters launched on an aviation career, that would otherwise have been unavailabale to them.

Now we look forward to running the 2006 award, providing we can get the funding again.

Keep writing in chaps and chapesses.

Dennis Kenyon.
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This is from the website of Dennis's Publisher



Appointment On Lake Michigan


ISBN 0-9732253-8-6



The temperature is minus forty degrees. A helicopter has landed on the frozen surface of Lake Michigan.

"What have I done?"

"What have I bloody well done?" Alistair Craig asks himself, as his dream of a new life is shattered when he discovers the identity of his passenger, and becomes embroiled in a terrorist kidnap plot headed by a ruthless Al Qaeda gang. And the IRA has joined them!

A hair-raising flight at night through the Great Lakes ends with an air/sea rescue on a luxury yacht. Political intrigue, fierce action and a fraught romance come together in Dennis Kenyon's first book.

The author is an ex Royal Air Force fast jet and bomber pilot. He left the service in 1970 and converted to civilian helicopters, and now earns his living as a helicopter flying instructor and examiner. He is also a Civil Aviation Authority approved helicopter display pilot, and in 1993 won the world freestyle display championships. From his Shoreham-by-Sea Airport office, Dennis Kenyon runs a helicopter flying scholarship for youngsters aged 18 to 23. He is an avid golfer, antique clock specialist and collects classic cars. He plans to retire into writing, and his next book is set in the intriguing world of the diamond trade.
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World Aerobatic Championships (Rouen)

For anyone who's intested this website www.peekhelicopters.co.uk has a link to Dennis Kenyon's display.
Enjoy, and watch out for the full down auto to music at the end.
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What a fantastic Display Routine, Dennis really is a master at what he does.

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