Robinson R44
Iconoclast
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From: The home of Dudley Dooright-Where the lead dog is the only one that gets a change of scenery.
To: Rotor Nut
Once again my words were either misunderstood or you did not follow the line of my post.
Firstly I explained why I placed the post. I knew it was promulgated several years ago but because of an experience I had working between the FAA and the CAA I found that there was in certain cases miscommunication between those two agencies. That miscommunication had nothing to do with the freewheeling unit problem covered in the AD. What it did deal with was the intent of the CAA to make certain information that the FAA considered as a recommendation as being mandatory. That information had to do with the causes of mast bumping and how to prevent it. If you are interested please E-mail me and I will send a copy of the document. Once received you could compare it to the same material contained in the POHs of CAA certified Robinson helicopters. This offer is available to anyone that wants a copy. The material covers about 20% of the posts I made on the previous Robinson threads.
Yes I am interested in safety (yours and every one else’s) and yes I am pedantic having four teaching credentials in the State of California and if I come across as being overbearing it is because of having 47 years in the aerospace industry watching educated people make mistakes
Once again my words were either misunderstood or you did not follow the line of my post.
Firstly I explained why I placed the post. I knew it was promulgated several years ago but because of an experience I had working between the FAA and the CAA I found that there was in certain cases miscommunication between those two agencies. That miscommunication had nothing to do with the freewheeling unit problem covered in the AD. What it did deal with was the intent of the CAA to make certain information that the FAA considered as a recommendation as being mandatory. That information had to do with the causes of mast bumping and how to prevent it. If you are interested please E-mail me and I will send a copy of the document. Once received you could compare it to the same material contained in the POHs of CAA certified Robinson helicopters. This offer is available to anyone that wants a copy. The material covers about 20% of the posts I made on the previous Robinson threads.
Yes I am interested in safety (yours and every one else’s) and yes I am pedantic having four teaching credentials in the State of California and if I come across as being overbearing it is because of having 47 years in the aerospace industry watching educated people make mistakes
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From: by the seaside
Lu
I believe you think a GASIL is something that it isn't.
This is what the GASIL is:
GASIL - General Aviation Safety Information Leaflet. Monthly safety and accident prevention bulletin for pilots and engineers published by the CAA.
If thats what you think it is then I'll head back behind the stone.
I believe you think a GASIL is something that it isn't.
This is what the GASIL is:
GASIL - General Aviation Safety Information Leaflet. Monthly safety and accident prevention bulletin for pilots and engineers published by the CAA.
If thats what you think it is then I'll head back behind the stone.
Joined: Dec 2000
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From: Ask the voices!
R44 Diagrams??
Good evening to you all,
I am hoping that some of you Robinson pilots/engineers/enthusiasts/haters
out there will be able to help me.
I am looking for as many line diagrams of R44's as possible I have the two off of the Robinson website, but if anyone knows of anymore, I would be grateful if you could let me know.
Aslo, if anyone would happen to have an R44 picture/diagram in .3DS format, that would be fantastic.
Thanks for all your help
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
I am hoping that some of you Robinson pilots/engineers/enthusiasts/haters
out there will be able to help me.I am looking for as many line diagrams of R44's as possible I have the two off of the Robinson website, but if anyone knows of anymore, I would be grateful if you could let me know.
Aslo, if anyone would happen to have an R44 picture/diagram in .3DS format, that would be fantastic.
Thanks for all your help
"Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue!"
Joined: Jul 2002
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From: London
Does anyone know if there are any R44 training matierals on the market, in the form of books, videos, CD Roms, ... addressing the sort of areas that, I imagine, the Factory Safety Course, covers.
I've looked all across the Internet, and have only found a few R22 products, but nothing on the '44 - seems strange given it's now the best selling helicopter in the world. Is it a deliberate decision by RHC not to sell any of the safety course or similar videos, books, etc to persuade people to attend the course?
Am needing to hand out suggestions for Christmas presents and my family can't afford a helicopter, so I though the training material would be the next best thing
Cheers
Helo
I've looked all across the Internet, and have only found a few R22 products, but nothing on the '44 - seems strange given it's now the best selling helicopter in the world. Is it a deliberate decision by RHC not to sell any of the safety course or similar videos, books, etc to persuade people to attend the course?
Am needing to hand out suggestions for Christmas presents and my family can't afford a helicopter, so I though the training material would be the next best thing
Cheers
Helo
Joined: Apr 2001
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From: Sat
No links/loyalties to them but as they're fairly near to me......
Have you tried contacting Heliair at Denham? They're a Robbo distributor. They might have some ideas or other suggestions about where to try.
Good luck.
Have you tried contacting Heliair at Denham? They're a Robbo distributor. They might have some ideas or other suggestions about where to try.
Good luck.
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From: London
Thanks.
I checked with Heliair this morning and they're scratching their heads on this one - no immediate answers, so if any other PPRuNers can suggest information sources I'd be grateful. Possibly even a safer pilot as well :-)
Helo
I checked with Heliair this morning and they're scratching their heads on this one - no immediate answers, so if any other PPRuNers can suggest information sources I'd be grateful. Possibly even a safer pilot as well :-)
Helo
Joined: Apr 2002
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From: Georgia
Raven II
Has anyone heard anything about ,good, bad or otherwise, Robinson Raven II. I heard that is was having some problems getting released for service but didn't get any details, was wondering if anyone know anything.
thanks.
nik.
thanks.
nik.
Joined: Feb 2001
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From: South of the North Pole
A little bit early I guess. The first three are due in the UK in the next 7-10 days, to which you can add a few days for them to get them from crate to apron. Ships #5 and #11 at Wellesbourne and #7 at Sywell - and those numbers suggest to me not many are yet flying worldwide.
Having kept the same MSN sequence for all models of the R.22 (now around 3400), RHC have oddly started a new sequence at 10001 for the Raven II.
Having kept the same MSN sequence for all models of the R.22 (now around 3400), RHC have oddly started a new sequence at 10001 for the Raven II.
Avoid imitations



Joined: Nov 2000
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
The injection system causing a lumpy ride?
Don't they have a proper seat? Or is that an injection seat?
Don't they have a proper seat? Or is that an injection seat?
Joined: Jul 2002
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From: London
Someone must know!!!
Hi there - still no joy from Heliair on sources of R44 training material/books/Roms/etc.
Is it just me, or does this strike you as a little strange that the no-one has decided to support the world's best selling helicopter in this way?
Maybe this is a gap in the market that can get me out of my day job and retiring early ...
Helo
Is it just me, or does this strike you as a little strange that the no-one has decided to support the world's best selling helicopter in this way?
Maybe this is a gap in the market that can get me out of my day job and retiring early ...
Helo

Joined: Sep 2002
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From: UKdom
try Dick Sanford, he's the Robinson UK bloke. Runs the safety course (which is EXCELLANT) and is their accident investigator over this side of the pond.
Otherwise, just slip an experienced instructor some notes to give you a thorough day with the machine, or an engineer. Take the notes and produce something for the rest of us!
I thinks in this weather there will be lots of instructors willing to help you out!
Otherwise, just slip an experienced instructor some notes to give you a thorough day with the machine, or an engineer. Take the notes and produce something for the rest of us!
I thinks in this weather there will be lots of instructors willing to help you out!



