Why not operating an russian helicopter?
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Hey Tecpilot,
Can I ask you to review this previous posted link?
http://www.augustoheli.com/videostuf...le/default.asp
Just scroll down to the vid called "Russian Helicopter crashes into trees"
Cheers,
OffshoreIgor
Can I ask you to review this previous posted link?
http://www.augustoheli.com/videostuf...le/default.asp
Just scroll down to the vid called "Russian Helicopter crashes into trees"
Cheers,
OffshoreIgor
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For TECPILOT
INFO :
Skytech is operating since 92 at least three giant Mil MI 26T from Belgium - I applied for a job with them and still hope - saw them paradroping 11.000 skydivers over a few days during space boogie in Vichy France in 94
The boss of Skytech flew in with a N registered B206 BIII and flew a few dropping as captain on the MI 26 and same day he flew back to Belgium (?) - cool
You can see the MI 26T parked in Belgium 2 x MI 26T in EBCI airport and 1 x MI 26T in EBLG airport but mostly used for Fire Fighting in Italy and according to SEI of Canada (the Bambi bucket manufacturer) it's SKYTECH who co-developped the TBB the 20.000 per drop system for the MI 26
http://www.sonnet.com/usr/wildfire/mi26t.html
http://www.fly-net.org/aeromedia/mil26gb.html
Also a few of their helicopters MI 8/17 are in Pakistan with the Red Cross - I saw them
Not that bad .....for a mail box only -??-
when/where did you flew in Malaysia ???
Aye Juan
INFO :
Skytech is operating since 92 at least three giant Mil MI 26T from Belgium - I applied for a job with them and still hope - saw them paradroping 11.000 skydivers over a few days during space boogie in Vichy France in 94
The boss of Skytech flew in with a N registered B206 BIII and flew a few dropping as captain on the MI 26 and same day he flew back to Belgium (?) - cool
You can see the MI 26T parked in Belgium 2 x MI 26T in EBCI airport and 1 x MI 26T in EBLG airport but mostly used for Fire Fighting in Italy and according to SEI of Canada (the Bambi bucket manufacturer) it's SKYTECH who co-developped the TBB the 20.000 per drop system for the MI 26
http://www.sonnet.com/usr/wildfire/mi26t.html
http://www.fly-net.org/aeromedia/mil26gb.html
Also a few of their helicopters MI 8/17 are in Pakistan with the Red Cross - I saw them
Not that bad .....for a mail box only -??-
when/where did you flew in Malaysia ???
Aye Juan
Juan,
just read the registration marks on the ships and you will see that Skytech seems to be the first "operator" in JAA land without incountry registered a/c.
Operators need in JAA land an AOC, the crews need a valid national or JAA licence, the ships need a certification, all such points i couldn't find on Skytech
Mi-26 or Mi-8, anyway you will not find a belgium registered or operated ship in Pakistan. Operators of such ships you will find in Russia or Ukraina. All you will find are providers. The definition of Skytech to be an "operator" isn't the JAA definition... but operator isn't a trademark.
just read the registration marks on the ships and you will see that Skytech seems to be the first "operator" in JAA land without incountry registered a/c.
Operators need in JAA land an AOC, the crews need a valid national or JAA licence, the ships need a certification, all such points i couldn't find on Skytech Mi-26 or Mi-8, anyway you will not find a belgium registered or operated ship in Pakistan. Operators of such ships you will find in Russia or Ukraina. All you will find are providers. The definition of Skytech to be an "operator" isn't the JAA definition... but operator isn't a trademark.
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thks Ian Corrigible
re-aye
I was looking for the name of the Skytech's boss to contact him directly for a job , and your link to the Flight magazine answered me .
http://www.flightinternational.com/A...vy+horses.html
But Lakhanisky .. that's not sounding very belgian ?? isnt it
thks & cheers
Juan,
Aye, - Tec Pilot
.....A mail box supplying MI 17\'s to UK Gov. .......wohaaaaaaa
I should work for such a mail box
http://www.flightinternational.com/A...vy+horses.html
no harm - cheers
Juan, 
thks TECPILOT
I don\'t care whom is the \"operator\" but whom run the business front line and provide me with a job and pay.
May be if SKYTECH is working in such places and for such customers, they don\'t need to be an operator as may be they are THE operator ?
By the way, when I first visited them in early nineties they was running also some MD 500 commercially on sling jobs- and I am 100% sure those was belgian registered as I have a pic showing a Skytech\'s MD 500 with OO-TLK marks on.
Now how can they \"operate\" MI 26T as per JAA if the MI 26T uncertified or unregistered ? especially for governments like fire fighting in Italy ?
The MI 26T wit RA markings have been with Skytech around and everywhere in Europe since the nineties,- so what rules applies and to whom ?
And what about the crews if the licences are delivered according an ICAO standard (mine Spanish) with a correct type rating ?
Never the less, this Skytech\'s boss flew the N registered brand new B 206 and the RA registered MI 26 in the same hour, in front of me - so I guess that I should be able to be granted the same privileges by competent authorities - but how? and whom? any MI 17 free lance pilots around?
Aye Juan
I was looking for the name of the Skytech's boss to contact him directly for a job , and your link to the Flight magazine answered me .
http://www.flightinternational.com/A...vy+horses.html
But Lakhanisky .. that's not sounding very belgian ?? isnt it
thks & cheers
Juan,
Aye, - Tec Pilot
.....A mail box supplying MI 17\'s to UK Gov. .......wohaaaaaaa
I should work for such a mail box
http://www.flightinternational.com/A...vy+horses.html
no harm - cheers
Juan,
thks TECPILOT
I don\'t care whom is the \"operator\" but whom run the business front line and provide me with a job and pay.
May be if SKYTECH is working in such places and for such customers, they don\'t need to be an operator as may be they are THE operator ?
By the way, when I first visited them in early nineties they was running also some MD 500 commercially on sling jobs- and I am 100% sure those was belgian registered as I have a pic showing a Skytech\'s MD 500 with OO-TLK marks on.
Now how can they \"operate\" MI 26T as per JAA if the MI 26T uncertified or unregistered ? especially for governments like fire fighting in Italy ?
The MI 26T wit RA markings have been with Skytech around and everywhere in Europe since the nineties,- so what rules applies and to whom ?
And what about the crews if the licences are delivered according an ICAO standard (mine Spanish) with a correct type rating ?
Never the less, this Skytech\'s boss flew the N registered brand new B 206 and the RA registered MI 26 in the same hour, in front of me - so I guess that I should be able to be granted the same privileges by competent authorities - but how? and whom? any MI 17 free lance pilots around?
Aye Juan
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Having the right license is always the issue with flying Russian built equipment so there are possibly not too many freelance Mil drivers out there. If the machine is on the RA register a western pilot will not be able to fly it as Putin declared that only Russians will be issued with Russian licenses so trying with Skytech might be a lost cause, Juan. The Skytech fella obviously being Russian has Russian and FAA licenses.
There are other possibilities but then a pilot will be restricted to flying the machines registered to that country e.g. Bulgaria, Moldova etc and even then they will need to have an operator sponsor a license for them and there are not too many of those around.
There are other possibilities but then a pilot will be restricted to flying the machines registered to that country e.g. Bulgaria, Moldova etc and even then they will need to have an operator sponsor a license for them and there are not too many of those around.
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Let's clarify
NotHomeMuch
You're right in part
>>>If the machine is on the RA register a western pilot will not be able to fly it as Putin declared that only Russians will be issued with Russian licenses so trying with Skytech might be a lost cause, Juan.
If this RA-registered ship operated under permanent or temp.contract in other countries then RUS,crew may be non-Russian,and even don't have to have rus-issued licences
BUT they need Type Rating in Mil-8/17 anyway.
So,we are in Russia may hire western pilots on ships with N-reg,or let's say P4-reg.
But you need to know Russian language
You're right in part
>>>If the machine is on the RA register a western pilot will not be able to fly it as Putin declared that only Russians will be issued with Russian licenses so trying with Skytech might be a lost cause, Juan.
If this RA-registered ship operated under permanent or temp.contract in other countries then RUS,crew may be non-Russian,and even don't have to have rus-issued licences
BUT they need Type Rating in Mil-8/17 anyway.
So,we are in Russia may hire western pilots on ships with N-reg,or let's say P4-reg.
But you need to know Russian language
The "Helitankers" (page 1 of this thread) were registered in Sao Tome (S9). All of the Mi-14 were some years old ex military and nearly without civ papers and history books. But be sure, somewhere in this world it's possible to find a little ICAO country providing the crew and the ship with the necessary papers. And no sweet, they are not interested to look at ship and crew
But the idea to convert the ships was great! Really powerful water bombers. I'm not sure if the Mi-14 is at least in Russia civ certified
But may be someone will convert one day the first SeaStallion to a Sao Tome civ Firefighter 
But the idea to convert the ships was great! Really powerful water bombers. I'm not sure if the Mi-14 is at least in Russia civ certified
But may be someone will convert one day the first SeaStallion to a Sao Tome civ Firefighter
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helitankers MI 14 Eliminator
Aye all,
I Looked also for a job a few years ago with Aerotech the german company operating those MI 14s
The MI 14 was type certified ( civilian) in Ukraine in a restricted category and those MI 14 have been operated sucessfully by Aerotech in Spain and in Portugal circa 95-98
At least two of those MI 14 was exported to the U.S - see Helicopter World magazine of October 96
For TEC PILOT // Sao Tome & Principe 's Civil Aviation airworthiness department are sub-contracted to VERITAS
http://www.bureauveritas.com/homepage_frameset.html
The same VERITAS provide airworthiness follow up on behalf of Civil Aviation offices with most of the French spoken countries including France and Luxembourg
You will for sure not get any "complaisance" from them, nor from Civil Aviation of Spain and Portugal who accepted those MI 14 to operate in their juridictions.
even if demilitarized those helicopters wasn't any sort of junks but all the contrary
Some older CH 53s are now converted by HEAVY LIFT USA for fire fighting in the U.S.
By the way the very first operator of Russian helicopters in USA was PHI of Lafayette USA, whom imported and registered one MI 10 Russian skycrane "Harke " and one MI 8 back in the mid-sixties - http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/mi-10-r.html
Apparently the PHI 's MI 10 ended his life in Central America few decades later
cheers - Juan
I Looked also for a job a few years ago with Aerotech the german company operating those MI 14s
The MI 14 was type certified ( civilian) in Ukraine in a restricted category and those MI 14 have been operated sucessfully by Aerotech in Spain and in Portugal circa 95-98
At least two of those MI 14 was exported to the U.S - see Helicopter World magazine of October 96
For TEC PILOT // Sao Tome & Principe 's Civil Aviation airworthiness department are sub-contracted to VERITAS
http://www.bureauveritas.com/homepage_frameset.html
The same VERITAS provide airworthiness follow up on behalf of Civil Aviation offices with most of the French spoken countries including France and Luxembourg
You will for sure not get any "complaisance" from them, nor from Civil Aviation of Spain and Portugal who accepted those MI 14 to operate in their juridictions.
even if demilitarized those helicopters wasn't any sort of junks but all the contrary
Some older CH 53s are now converted by HEAVY LIFT USA for fire fighting in the U.S.
By the way the very first operator of Russian helicopters in USA was PHI of Lafayette USA, whom imported and registered one MI 10 Russian skycrane "Harke " and one MI 8 back in the mid-sixties - http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/mi-10-r.html
Apparently the PHI 's MI 10 ended his life in Central America few decades later
cheers - Juan
