Issue of a JAR CPL(H) at Gatwick

[Haggis Hunter]

Does anyone know if you can get a CPL(H) issued at Gatwick from FCL? I know you can get Rating etc, but can't find anywhere that says if they do CPL(H) issues...

[Billywizz]

where else are you do you think you are going to get it?!!

Just make sure you arrive with all the relevent paperwork.

[What Limits]

If you look at LASORS 2005 page A23 / 24 it states that they do not do licence issue at the public counter at Gatwick. Just post it to them, it does not normally take too long.

[SilsoeSid]

If you turn up at Gatwick with all the relevant paperwork and hand it over to the person on the desk, the only thing you'll end up with for the next 3 weeks is the assurance that the CAA has all your relevant paperwork.

Ratings/renewals etc can be done there and then, (get there early), initial issue though, not a chance.

[ambidextrous]

I beg to differ, have the rules changed since January 6th.2005?
I went (early) to the public counter on that date with all the necessary paperwork & walked away at 4pm that same day with my initial issue JAR-FCL ATPL/H + I/R to complement my UK CAA ATPL/H + I/R. I thought it was excellent service.
with fraternal greetings, ambi

[SilsoeSid]

With respect ambidextrous,

By virtue of the fact that you already had a UK CAA ATPL/H + I/R, the issue of your JAR-FCL ATPL/H + I/R wasn't an initial licence issue.

Out of interest, was this a renewal of licence?

SS

[ambidextrous]

SS,

Er no, that occurred ten days later & took 2 weeks!

ambi

[Haggis Hunter]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll call the CAA tomorrow (if I get through) and ask what the chances are!

[SilsoeSid]

Haggis, I think that's your best bet.

However, for ambis sake;

According to LASORS 2005 (Sect A17)

Public Counter Service

PLD provides a counter service at Aviation House, dealing with customer enquiries.
The counter opening times are 09:00 am to 16:00 pm. The Department provides the following ‘while you wait’ services:-

• Addition of a Type or Class Rating to a Licence;
• Renewal of a Licence;
• UK National to JAR-FCL Licence Conversions;
• Change of Address;
• Inclusion of the Flight Instructor Rating*;
• Removal of restrictions from the Flight Instructor Rating.
..
..
We are unable to provide a ‘same day’ service for applications for licence issue.

It would seem that ambi came under the 'UK National to JAR-FCL Licence Conversions' bullet point.

Regards,

SS

[Helinut]

If you look at the Personnel Licensing bit of the CAA website, it gives the date of the application for a licence that is currently being dealt with. Since this is about 2 weeks old for professional licences, I assume that you can't get your licence over the counter, unless of course you camp out there for a fortnight.

[SilsoeSid]

How did the phone call go HH?

By any chance, was it something like....



SS

[Haggis Hunter]

It was along the lines of:

"You can come down, gives us your stuff, bugger off home... and we'll send it back in 10-12 days!"

However, she didn't like it when I relpied:

"So 10-12 days, that be 3 weeks then, like what your estimating on the website?"

She got shirty, but hey I might give it a go cause when I phoned back later to ask another question, another lady said if I take it down they will do it in about a week quicker!

As usual everyone is reading from the same hyme sheet in the CAA!


HH

[Camp Freddie]

hello Mr HH

this is all fine but would it make any difference if you got your licence today or in 2-3 weeks ?

are you actually missing some cool charters , or is it really like it was for most people that nothing actually changes once you have got it for a while.

I had mine months before I did anything that required CPL privileges

regards

CF

[Haggis Hunter]

I am actually in a rush to get it, due to fact I am already lined up with a job and am going on FI(H) course as soon as. HH