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Old 6th Apr 2005, 05:27
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Now what was it the MBB advertising people used to say ...Oh yes ......

" Even the birds are jealous!"

try doing those moves in your 'Jetranger' .........
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What an awsome Vid, the sound track was also VG for it showed the OTT journo type really go OVER THE TOP, lost his bottle completly total smell of broken glass

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Old 6th Apr 2005, 08:07
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For direct access to the Windows Media File for this clip:

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Old 6th Apr 2005, 10:27
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Rainer Wilke was recently training Chinese pilots how to do "Helibatics" at the Test Flight Academy South Africa (TFASA) in Cape Town in a Bo105CBS, one of Base 4's I believe.
He gets a banana!
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Haha... Leave it to our German friends to actuallty issue helicopter aerobatic licenses

I'm not beiing negative about it, just think its funny.

Have a friend who lives in Germany, told me he had to take a 5 day course to get a fishing license to be allowed to fish ffor fun from the rivers& lakes

He actually made himself a fake wheelbarrow license and told people that tehy had to have license to drive wheelbarrows, got some to belive it too..

They sure have a sense of humour those Germans
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Love it! Wish I had the guts to try it, but alas I would probably kill myself!
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There's no stopping it now... On day I will get myself a BO105. There is a slight problem though, the cabin isn't wide enough for the smile I will wear. Great video, impressive pilot.

My guess is that they had some sort of prior authorization to perform the manouvres. And since they didn't crash, both the helicopter and the pilot was up to it. Maybe they have to do a major inspection afterwards. As I guess most of you noticed, the "hair" on the cap only stood up once, even while inverted spiraling downwards. So IMHO they probably wasn't putting that much stress on the helicopter. The sounds eminating from the tv-guy is easy to understand from someone not used to aerobatics, no matter how mild they are.

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SUrprising they had the co pilot controls installed . Last thing you want is the passenger to panic and grap the cyclic. I am sure that even during the extreme manouevres the MMI stayed in the green. The scariest one i saw on a film was the 105 diving straight down while rotating the aircraft around the mast .
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Old 7th Apr 2005, 00:56
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Can you post it again?? I get an error page..
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Old 7th Apr 2005, 00:57
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I have a video of that accident Widgeon, not very pretty at all...you can only agree with the report.
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PIC is Rainer Wilke, he is one out of three pilots in Germany with the appropriate rating (KFB (H) = Kunstflugberechtigung (Hubschrauber)) to do that kind of stuff.
Leave it to our German friends to actuallity issue helicopter aerobatic licenses
Oh yes, in the german national law you could find the term Kunstflugberechtigung (Hubschrauber), means an aerobatic license.

But guys...

1. §81 LuftPersV is a general paragraph, relevant to gliders, planes and helicopters. There are no differencies in this paragraph between gliders or helicopters.
2. There are no implementing provisions specifiying "helibatics" or aerobatic licensies (helicopters) in the german law, in contrast to gliders or planes.
3. Because there are no civil helicopters in Germany, approved and certified to do aerobatics, you couldn't fly the minimum of 5 training hours (according to §81 LuftPersV, necessary to all glider, plane and helicopter aerobatic licensies), despite the fact that you don't know what to train and to teach (lack of implementing provisions) and therefore you couldn't get the aerobatic ticket.
4. Therefore nobody knows how the 3 pilots got their KFB's. It's a kind of accolade performed by nobody wants to know (and now nobody wants to remember) in the german CAA.
5. As i wrote before, that kind of personally licence couldn't be used on non aerobatic a/c, means on civil certified helicopters.
6. Mr. Wilke is a very good pilot but now he is a retiree and i'm not sure, if the thing he is turning is good to the helicopter business.

BTW The problem on "helibatics" is not the airframe or the main rotor on BO 105, it's the tailrotor and especially the engineering mechanics of the tailrotor.

SUrprising they had the co pilot controls installed ...
Thats one of the headaches i have. There are the first offers to "adventure" PAX flights with this BO 105 available. Of course 4 Passengers in this 105. The price is at the moment 250€. "Fly like a stunt pilot" is the official headline and ..." we don't recommend this flight to newbies".



If it would be possible to get a new "helibatics" ticket from the CAA i'm sure this would be a big business, because BO 105 are so cheap in the moment on the market and the interest in helibatics seems to be growing

Interested? In may the german army will sold 10 BO 105 M (military version) to junk prices. (but it's impossible to register the ships civil in the JAA world)

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Old 7th Apr 2005, 18:17
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As an experienced BO105 pilot, the capabilities of the aircraft do not surprise me, although I have to say that I don't believe I *ever* moved the cyclic as much as Rainer does in that video clip. Then again I flew a different model (CB-4) than he. Even so, I've always been amazed that the 105 can do that inverted-pedal-turning bit. Makes you wonder if that MD-600N ENG pilot in Miami, Florida was doing something similar (intentionally or not) when his tailboom got sliced off. Aren't the slow rolls amazing? Just cyclic to the left and around she goes! Also, I was amused that Rainer kept up a very matter-of-fact (sounding) intercom patter during the ride. ...Just another trip-around-the-patch for him, I'd imagine. "Yah, here vee go...outzide loop from zee hover wiss two pedal turnss at zee bottom...ziss is fun, yess?"

It is astounding to me that the duals were in! If I were going to do that kind of stuff, I'd not only forbid the duals, but I'd want my passenger's arms strapped under the seatbelts as well. And they ostensibly could do this with up to four pax onboard? Good Lord, can you imagine how much barf there'd be to clean up?

An amazing video. An amazing aircraft.
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Old 9th Apr 2005, 13:40
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Bump for all those people who don't know what all those little page numbers at the top and bottom of this page mean. Well, that one guy.
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Old 10th Apr 2005, 23:01
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Spinwing,

Here's the sticker



(edited for a better image scan: I think!)

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Old 11th Apr 2005, 06:16
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Thanks very much John ...

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Old 17th Jul 2006, 08:29
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Amazing BO-105 Aerobatics Video

Came across this video. Some amazing footage.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...63808985000437
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Old 17th Jul 2006, 08:42
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Ned,

This has been around for ages .... AND been talked about here before!

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Old 17th Jul 2006, 09:16
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Sorry didnt know that, only just came across it.
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Old 17th Jul 2006, 22:48
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I for one hadn't seen it, so thanks for the intro... Hell of a first solo!
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 08:23
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First solol

Yeah, that was my mate Danny. Can you beleive he decided it wasn't for him after that flight and now works in a fish & chip shop?

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