Sikorsky S-92: From Design to Operations
Pages 3-31 to 3-33 of the RFM revised. A red caption "Warning" for low MGB pressure now advises "A total loss of MGB oil pressure may result in a MGB failure in less than 10 minutes. If MGB OIL PRES is less than 5 psi, Land Immediately". Warning repeated at least once.
Some language to explain to white-shirt pilots that never poke under a cowling that the oil-bypass system won't save you if the reason for the oil leaking out of the MGB is in the gearbox housing itself. All S92 pilots should be gurus on this subject by now.
Some language to explain to white-shirt pilots that never poke under a cowling that the oil-bypass system won't save you if the reason for the oil leaking out of the MGB is in the gearbox housing itself. All S92 pilots should be gurus on this subject by now.
Malabo,
Seems very odd wording, not really a confidence builder like something that states "should be able to make 10 minutes" or something giving a positive time to take response. As worded it indicates a failure after oil loss could be anywhere from 10 minutes down to instantaneous (which history has shown is not likely).
The Sultan
Seems very odd wording, not really a confidence builder like something that states "should be able to make 10 minutes" or something giving a positive time to take response. As worded it indicates a failure after oil loss could be anywhere from 10 minutes down to instantaneous (which history has shown is not likely).
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Sultan,
That is most likely them covering their asses. If they do put a definite number to the time and one goes in less than that they will be in for some very expensive please explaining.
That is most likely them covering their asses. If they do put a definite number to the time and one goes in less than that they will be in for some very expensive please explaining.
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widgeon and max,
You are right, I was snarpy. Sorry, truly. I am also impressed with your background, and believe you are probably an expert on FMEA's and such, the exact topic of this thread.
But my point was that you mustn't look on this site as a font of wisdom, but rather a collage of thoughts, from cheap rumors without substance to great words of wisdom. IMHO, the posts from folks like 212man have the ring of wisdom, and many of the others have the thud of uninformed tripe.
Yes, I am a pilot, and yes, I treat my pax with respect. And yes, I'd say the same thing to my pax if they began to quote pprune posters to me as sage advice.
And maxwelg2, regarding posting anonymously, if you please post a pic of your driver's liscense, if it says "maxwelg2" as your name, I will send you a paypal for 100 euros!
You are right, I was snarpy. Sorry, truly. I am also impressed with your background, and believe you are probably an expert on FMEA's and such, the exact topic of this thread.
But my point was that you mustn't look on this site as a font of wisdom, but rather a collage of thoughts, from cheap rumors without substance to great words of wisdom. IMHO, the posts from folks like 212man have the ring of wisdom, and many of the others have the thud of uninformed tripe.
Yes, I am a pilot, and yes, I treat my pax with respect. And yes, I'd say the same thing to my pax if they began to quote pprune posters to me as sage advice.
And maxwelg2, regarding posting anonymously, if you please post a pic of your driver's liscense, if it says "maxwelg2" as your name, I will send you a paypal for 100 euros!
Ramen,
I beg to differ with you about different operators having different methods that directly affect the operation and stress on aircraft in the same role offshore.
Take yourself back to the Helicopter Services experience in the S-61 Spindle Shucking contest on the North Sea....they won 2-0 over Bristow as I recall.
All laid down to an RPM issue during particular maneuvers.....I am sure some old North Sea hands can add the details for you.
I beg to differ with you about different operators having different methods that directly affect the operation and stress on aircraft in the same role offshore.
Take yourself back to the Helicopter Services experience in the S-61 Spindle Shucking contest on the North Sea....they won 2-0 over Bristow as I recall.
All laid down to an RPM issue during particular maneuvers.....I am sure some old North Sea hands can add the details for you.
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Sikorsky outsources copter cabins to India | Hartford Business
Stratford-based Sikorsky Aircraft today announced that India's Tata Group will build cabins for Sikorsky's civilian workhorse S-92 helicopter in the East Asian nation.
Financial terms were not disclosed.
The first cabin is scheduled for delivery in late 2010 from a facility that Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. will construct Andhra Pradesh.
Sikorsky President Jeffrey P. Pino said the subsidiary of United Technologies Corp. is tapping into India's work force in India's growing aerospace market.
Although Sikorsky is the first UTC unit to set up manufacturing in India, UTC employs about 4,000 workers there.
Ratan N. Tata, chairman of parent company Tata Sons, said the manufacture of the S-92 cabin in India is a "significant first step in the growth of India as a global hub for aerospace manufacturing."
Nearly 100 S-92 helicopters have been built for search and rescue, and transporting heads of state and oil workers to offshore platforms.
Financial terms were not disclosed.
The first cabin is scheduled for delivery in late 2010 from a facility that Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. will construct Andhra Pradesh.
Sikorsky President Jeffrey P. Pino said the subsidiary of United Technologies Corp. is tapping into India's work force in India's growing aerospace market.
Although Sikorsky is the first UTC unit to set up manufacturing in India, UTC employs about 4,000 workers there.
Ratan N. Tata, chairman of parent company Tata Sons, said the manufacture of the S-92 cabin in India is a "significant first step in the growth of India as a global hub for aerospace manufacturing."
Nearly 100 S-92 helicopters have been built for search and rescue, and transporting heads of state and oil workers to offshore platforms.
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Nearly 100 S-92 helicopters have been built for search and rescue, and transporting heads of state and oil workers to offshore platforms.
So Sikorsky, after trying to trade on its American heritage is now going to use the much cheaper labour in India to build its cabins instead of helping the US economy recover by creating jobs from investment.
Crab old fellow,
In case you missed the latest news from over here.....we have a new administration that is, shall we say, not very keen on business and proposes all sorts of new taxes, increasing existing taxes, removing allowable deductions, and installing penalties for success. Intel is saying they will relocate Americans to overseas locations if this keeps on. We would gladly trade you our "One" for your "One Eyed" fellow which would leave you an eye up on us one up on us in the deal.
Sikorsky has relied upon other countries for manufacturing....the UK and Italy for instance....what's the difference?
Last time I checked old Igor was a Russian before becoming an American anyhow!
In case you missed the latest news from over here.....we have a new administration that is, shall we say, not very keen on business and proposes all sorts of new taxes, increasing existing taxes, removing allowable deductions, and installing penalties for success. Intel is saying they will relocate Americans to overseas locations if this keeps on. We would gladly trade you our "One" for your "One Eyed" fellow which would leave you an eye up on us one up on us in the deal.
Sikorsky has relied upon other countries for manufacturing....the UK and Italy for instance....what's the difference?
Last time I checked old Igor was a Russian before becoming an American anyhow!
So Sikorsky hopes doing a deal with India to build cabins will favour them in upcoming Indian helicopter business...but I wonder how the Indian Government will react when they find other major parts are coming over the Himalayas from China ?!
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Old News SASless
Sikorsky Aircraft Corp. - MoU with TATA (Sikorsky)
The plan was 11 montsh before the big O came in.
Still easy to see how, say, a senile thick redneck might blame everything on a charesmatic, intelligent leader like Obama.
The plan was 11 montsh before the big O came in.
Still easy to see how, say, a senile thick redneck might blame everything on a charesmatic, intelligent leader like Obama.
Still easy to see how, say, a senile thick redneck might blame everything on a charesmatic, intelligent leader like Obama.
You must never have met a real Redneck! As to being thick and senile.....I am neither. At least I know how and when to use spell check.
Zalt....when the word is underlined in "red", that means you have a spelling problem.
As you have appear to have a limited vocabulary and use poor grammar it would suggest you did not do well in school.
Don't over look the fact that a lot of ol' Rednecks were raised Pentecostal....they believe in the laying on of hands. Be careful who you insult as you might just one day run into a real down south Georgia Redneck.
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Sasless;
Good to see you corrected your last post as we definitely did not vote on "Buy Canadian".
However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"
A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.
carholme
Good to see you corrected your last post as we definitely did not vote on "Buy Canadian".
However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"
A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.
carholme
As I said.....our current administration is not very business savvy or friendly!
As you recall.....there was an uproar when Congress brought that silly notion up...on both sides of the border.
Much more of this "Change" and that is all we're gonna have is "change". (as in small change)
As you recall.....there was an uproar when Congress brought that silly notion up...on both sides of the border.
Much more of this "Change" and that is all we're gonna have is "change". (as in small change)
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It is a global market now , just see how much of any GE engine is from offshore now. It is good as long as the country respects the intellectual rights of the prime contractor. I have my doubts that copywright laws are well enforced in mainland china ( I cannot speak for Taiwan ).
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There is nothing new in this. The S-92 cabin was previously built by Mitsubishi and has always therefore always been sourced internationally and shipped to the US. As the manufacture of S-92 cabins no longer fits Mitsubishi's business model, an alternative source had to be found.
Parts of the S-92 fuselage are already built in China and in Taiwan.
Parts of the S-92 fuselage are already built in China and in Taiwan.
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Good to see you corrected your last post as we definitely did not vote on "Buy Canadian".
However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"
A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.
carholme
However our PM is talking on US television today, trying to get the Americans to back off their intentions to "Buy American"
A good way to destroy what may be a start of a recovery will be to retrench behind borders and limit trade.
carholme
Ourselves to blame - FP Comment