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Old 2nd Feb 2006, 07:48
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A quiet day here on the coast, what's that saying about the devil and idle hands!

Here's the R88!

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empti heli - R22s?

After reading the other thread "empti heli" - I remembered seeing a tv programme once with Auzzie bush pilots, who to refuel got out rotors running beside a 20 gal fuel drum to pump fuel in.

Now,
I assume he wond down to 75% E&R frictions on. But i have to wonder would this be safe - forget the whole fuel filling! would the rotor disc stay level and the helicopter just sit on the ground ideling?

Just would like to know if people do this in r22s - perhaps even FIs do this when busy - eg oops! forgot flight guide - hold on....

any thoughts???



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Old 4th Feb 2006, 13:46
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I wouldn't think it good practice to do that in any Helicopter let alone the R22.
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Old 5th Feb 2006, 07:12
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Mr S, Cant they fly over the gates?
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R22 Gyros

Question,

Where are the gyros on an R22 (B2) panel. Are they immediatly behind the instruments or lower down behind the panel.
Also are they air or electrically driven?

I appreciate that you can have different makes of gyros/DI/AH but just want to know for standard R22s and instruments?

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Old 14th Feb 2006, 12:12
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Smile

In the standard machine the instruments are self-contained, ie. the gyros are in the AH/DI .

That is, if you're lucky enough to have them!

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Also Electrically driven.
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Old 14th Feb 2006, 16:20
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YEAH
seem to remember that if you put master switch on.
first thing you hear are the gyros spooling up. we used to pull
the CB if only putting master on to look at fuel guages or other.
Just saves the gyros spooling up and down.
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Old 14th Feb 2006, 16:50
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Indeed, we always pull the CB when shutting down for precisely that reason.

With the breaker in you can hear them spooling up inside the panel.
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You have to be lucky enough to have them, and lucky enough that they work. I've had 4 instruments fail on my last 3 flights! So much for the instructor pulling the CB to simulate partial panel, we didn't have a choice.
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Talking

Sorry, Yes, Electrical!

But I guess you know by now!

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Old 15th Feb 2006, 00:10
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real training....

mikelimapapa

Did your instructor cover flying with know deficiencies (inoperative equipment), and what the consequences are?

But, if they all failed in flight, and were repaired before the next flight, well, that may be another matter.

See FAR 91.213
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 03:44
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rotormatic,

Wasn't a factor, all problems occurred in flight and were squawked to maintenance when we got back. Plus, we weren't on an ifr flight plan, just doing practice approaches.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 17:37
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R22 too expensive? What's the motive?

A brand new R22 is now over $200,00. I know that Frank doesn't really want people to buy the R22, he said so himself at the factory course in April 04.

Is he hoping that people will view the R22 as too expensive, and buy/operate/train on a R44 instead?

Seems to me people will just go the Schweizer route instead?

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Just an increase due to inflation. I signed up for their safety course a couple of weeks ago and between the time I printed the form, signed it and faxed...it went from $350 to $400. And I found out only when they sent me a letter in the mail saying they charged my card $400 instead of the $350. Still, a bargain. Same for the R22, at just over $200K it's the best deal going for a small piston trainer.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 19:57
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and what does this mean for those of us looking at spending more time on one type than the other while training ?

Done to death already I know, but it seems while re-searching flight schools there's more and more Schweizers available.

Will they ever enter the commercial market to the same extent as the robbie, as a knock on from all the training and hours on type, and how quickly will this happen ??
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 13:21
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When I did the safetty course in 2001 ish it cost $350 for them to put the pric eup only now is pretty good. And you do get free coffee and doughnuts plus one lunch and 1.2hrs on the robbie. I think that is quite impressive. And I almost forgot you get a free mug as well or two if there are some left over in the end.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 15:08
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Does anyone know what the original price of the R22 was? I believe it was $26,000.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 16:35
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BS, I couldn't agree with you more. A bargain. But I didn't realize we'd also get free donuts and a mug! Could this get any better?!!!
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 17:45
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Does anyone know what the original price of the R22 was? I believe it was $26,000.
I believe it was $40,000 back in 1979
Then the HP a few years later was just under $60,000
Alpha '83 just under $80,000
Beta '85 $85,000, Mariner another $10,000
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