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Old 5th Jun 2006, 16:07
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There was a Gazelle lost on Route 5 out of Aldergrove en-route to Lisburn - night, poor Wx, no gogs (early 80's). It was put down to inadvertenet IMC.
I have flown the Gaz with SAS and the very primative stick feel system: SAS was OK but the stick feel - IMO - was crap, we switched it off most of the time.
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Old 5th Jun 2006, 16:09
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Either way they will make your eyes water when you get the bill. Trying to find an affordable overhaul shop for the components can be a problem too.
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 14:20
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Talking Gazelle 111a engine

I am involved in a Gazelle restoration and have been given a shopping list !! I am trying to track down a Turbomeca 3a engine for our Gazelle, I am more used to dealing with RR so not to sure of my way around this engine. Any leads at all from anywhere in the world would be gratefully recieved. Contact Chris by reply or [email protected] or 07851 071719. cheers....
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 14:51
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chris
do you have one to overhaul ?
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Old 19th Jun 2006, 15:44
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MW Helicopters at Stapleford is probably your best starting point.
They maintain most of the UK Gazelle fleet, as well as producing stunning refurbs, .

Martin Woods
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or email : [email protected]
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:01
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Question for Gazelle helicopter crews

Please settle an argument:

Can the Gazelle helicopter be flown with ground handling wheels still attached??
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:24
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Yes.

Unfortunately, the right-angle securing pin for the wheel dolly will fall off if more than 20 degrees angle of bank is exceeded.

Seen it happen. Ground and Aircrew missed it in Yorkshire in the 90s (allegedly).

The pin twatted some mate's garage roof, but luckily he was an on-side chap.

Best one I ever saw was a Wessex in NI when a crew set off for an IF sortie. Pilot stuck his gun (HK53) in a convenient slot in the steps up to the cockpit (barrel nose down) while he checked the rigging.

Set off for an hour's stunting and bunting and had kittens when he trod on his own gat while climbing out of the cab.

Priceless.

Somebody start a thread on lost kit/colliding with fort walls/stolen ammo/ etc

I live in a glass house and will therefore not criticize those who choose to make use of the one metre range.....twice!

To those of you who have done well,.....and you know who you are,...

Well Done!

I jest not.
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:27
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To clarify:

Wheels off, pin still in the slot in the skid. Easy to miss on a busy day.
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:27
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It will only fall off if you are out of balance Monty!.............you know, the bit of string in front of you that always points to the side.......?
Guess you must be Amateur Air Corps
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:38
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Odd, all the diabolo wheels I fitted as groundcrew had a segment cut out to enable the pin to fit behind a locking device, in order to prevent inadvertant extraction.

WRT gats, the decision to withdraw slings from the HK was the result of a floppy driver hanging his on the stores boom while he did the walkround. Said gat eventually dropped off, resulting in a phone call to the feds from a local complaining about the new hole in her garage roof.
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:39
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In balance, gravity wins.

I've seen more amateurs on 72 in the 90's (Pilot Officers/Flying Officers) than I ever saw in the AAC. It was a circus/sinbin for the dross out of Shawbury.

I'm RAF mate, but I know you can't polish a turd.
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 17:44
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It wasn't the boom (we're talking Wessex), it was the steps up the side.

Perfect HK53 nozzle slot while you open the transmission deck door to check for....er stowaways.
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 18:05
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Can the Gazelle helicopter be flown with ground handling wheels still attached
Yes, but they're not supposed to be!!
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 18:55
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Should the answer not be; Yes, but why would you want to ???

And i never left my HK anywhere but in the aircraft, but if I did, thanks to the 230 crewman for keeping an eye on it for me!!
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 19:26
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Monty, t'was the boom (we're talking Floppy), I was standing in '5' Ops when Glengormley RUC called with request to check a butt number.
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 00:19
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I seem to remember someone's HK leaving a nice neat hole on the pan at City Flight in the late 90's too. The cheeky bleeder then tried to hand his weapon (now only good for shooting round corners) back into the armoury at the end of the duty .

Anyway, back to the original question. The Diablo wheels were never meant to flown outside the airframe but I do recall a thin set of wheels which could be stowed on the skid during flight. But why would you want to?
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 00:28
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The rear skid posts have a tube welded to them with a hole for a pip-pin, just for carrying the skinny wheels. You also needed a hydraulic jack plugged into one of the pair of diabolo mounts to raise the cab.

Did the deed once on my Basic Groundcrewman course, and never used them again, apart from lobbing them into the back of the flight G1098 Bedford when we deployed on exercise.
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 12:47
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Just for the record the only 'Army' gazelles with SAS
No they weren't

We had SAS fitted to 3 Gazelles in Berlin in the early 80s also it was fitted to both the aircraft we used in Canada in 85 all Army. I had the frightening pleasure of being in the left seat when a colleague tried to go low level over the training area using the SAS but forgot we had a load on an 8ft strop under the aircraft.
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Old 24th Oct 2006, 19:18
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It could be my memory I suppose, but I was at BATUS for 4 months in 85, and don't remember the aircraft having SAS.
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Old 25th Oct 2006, 07:51
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but I was at BATUS for 4 months in 85
They were up at Wainwright. I don't know who we took them over from.
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