Gazelle: Flying, operating, buying
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From: Escrick York england
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ex uk military gazelles fly on a permit to fly not a certificate of airworthiness
the uk caa has relaxed its rules on carring passengers you can now carry a maximimium of 4 persons inc pilot
most ha registered gazelles in uk are civilian gazelles on certificate of airworthiness not military ,there is only one ha reg soko flying in uk , but when registering in hungary they often refer to the gazelle as soko incorectly
hungary bought civil use gazelles from soko for the police and had a type certificate these then got sold to private persons now most sokos in hungary are annex 2 like the allouette 11
soko built gazelles under licence from eurocopter [or what ever they was called at the time ] not all of these went to the military one went to the yugo police which were operated as civil hence a civil type certificate
and should be able to convert back to civil airframes after military use similar to hughes 500/huey/205 in america
hope that explains if you want to know more about ha reg gazelles send me a pm
ex uk military gazelles fly on a permit to fly not a certificate of airworthiness
the uk caa has relaxed its rules on carring passengers you can now carry a maximimium of 4 persons inc pilot
most ha registered gazelles in uk are civilian gazelles on certificate of airworthiness not military ,there is only one ha reg soko flying in uk , but when registering in hungary they often refer to the gazelle as soko incorectly
hungary bought civil use gazelles from soko for the police and had a type certificate these then got sold to private persons now most sokos in hungary are annex 2 like the allouette 11
soko built gazelles under licence from eurocopter [or what ever they was called at the time ] not all of these went to the military one went to the yugo police which were operated as civil hence a civil type certificate
and should be able to convert back to civil airframes after military use similar to hughes 500/huey/205 in america
hope that explains if you want to know more about ha reg gazelles send me a pm
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md 600 driver wrote: "soko built gazelles under licence from eurocopter [or what ever they was called at the time ] not all of these went to the military some went to the yugo police which were operated as civils"
In the matter fact, only one Soko built Gazelle was "in civil use" (Police/VIP transport). Eight others were genuine SA-341Gs obtained directly from the manufacturer - Aerospatiale at the time
In the matter fact, only one Soko built Gazelle was "in civil use" (Police/VIP transport). Eight others were genuine SA-341Gs obtained directly from the manufacturer - Aerospatiale at the time
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YU-HBA S.A. 341G Gazelle (1008) - RIV BiH ili SIV
YU-HBB S.A. 341G Gazelle (1020) - RSUP BiH
YU-HBG S.A. 341G Gazelle (1205) -
YU-HBH S.A. 341G Gazelle (1292) -
YU-HBI S.A. 341G Gazelle (1301) - RSUP Srbije
YU-HBJ S.A. 341G Gazelle (1304) -
YU-HBK S.A. 341G Gazelle (1348) – RSUP Crne Gore
YU-HBO S.A. 341G Gazelle (1413) - RSUP Srbije
YU-HCY Soko/S.A. 341H Gazelle -
source local 9A forum
YU-HBB S.A. 341G Gazelle (1020) - RSUP BiH
YU-HBG S.A. 341G Gazelle (1205) -
YU-HBH S.A. 341G Gazelle (1292) -
YU-HBI S.A. 341G Gazelle (1301) - RSUP Srbije
YU-HBJ S.A. 341G Gazelle (1304) -
YU-HBK S.A. 341G Gazelle (1348) – RSUP Crne Gore
YU-HBO S.A. 341G Gazelle (1413) - RSUP Srbije
YU-HCY Soko/S.A. 341H Gazelle -
source local 9A forum
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From: Escrick York england
agreed, did they have some 342 for police as well
I opperate ex YU-HBI S.A. 341G Gazelle (1301) - RSUP Srbije which i was lead to believe was there for training only, before the rest arrived can you confirm that
I opperate ex YU-HBI S.A. 341G Gazelle (1301) - RSUP Srbije which i was lead to believe was there for training only, before the rest arrived can you confirm that
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From: Milano, Italia
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Zishelix, I've not seen you on the forum in a while!
These may be of interest to you:
SA341G I-PNIC at Brescia, Montichiari on 5th September 2009
SA342P F-GFGM at Brussels Zaventem in 1986
S.
Zishelix, I've not seen you on the forum in a while!
These may be of interest to you:
SA341G I-PNIC at Brescia, Montichiari on 5th September 2009
SA342P F-GFGM at Brussels Zaventem in 1986
S.
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From: Kings Caple, Ross-on-Wye.orPiccots End. Hertfordshire
Gazelle
Can I offer two-pennorth ...I've aways lusted after a sortie in a Gazelle ever since I watched the inimitable Andy Berryman display at Cranfield circa 1986. Last week I fulfilled the dream on Jeremy Taylor's 342 N-565-F. She was the most exciting and fun machine it has ever been my pleasure to handle. I'm reminded of the 1950s Jaguar slogan. 'Grace, space & pace ... as for an hour or so I imagined I was flying with the RN Sharks. Absolutely fabulous Dennis Kenyon.
PS ...can someone tell me how to post the pic on the sands at low tide off the Norfolk coast.
PS ...can someone tell me how to post the pic on the sands at low tide off the Norfolk coast.
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Dennis - I also had the pleasure of a spin with jeremy in N565F a few weeks ago - absolutely AWESOME machines!! 
PM me a number and I'll talk you through the piccie upload.
TTB
PM me a number and I'll talk you through the piccie upload.
TTB
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From: Milano, Italia
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Dennisimo:
I am astonished! I honestly didn't think there were any singles which you hadn't flown!
I too am keen to have a go in the Gazelle and may well do so on my next visit to Blighty. In the meantime would you mind indulging some of my handling curiosities. From the type of head installed I'm imagining that she handles something along the lines of a cross between the 500 and the Ecureuil?
Collective: One observes the short stubby Sud Aviation collective grip - how does it handle? In the 500 (depending on how it is rigged) it is sometimes necessary to apply a slight downward force once the collective has been raised to near flight pitch. Is the Gazelle collective that light when approaching flight or is she similar to the 206 offering a more progressive feel?
Cyclic: Is she boosted and 'sloppy' like the 206 or firmer like the 500 and in terms of responsiveness is she closer to the Ecureuil or the 500?
Any other handling comments would be welcome.
Brgds
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Dennisimo:
I am astonished! I honestly didn't think there were any singles which you hadn't flown!
I too am keen to have a go in the Gazelle and may well do so on my next visit to Blighty. In the meantime would you mind indulging some of my handling curiosities. From the type of head installed I'm imagining that she handles something along the lines of a cross between the 500 and the Ecureuil?
Collective: One observes the short stubby Sud Aviation collective grip - how does it handle? In the 500 (depending on how it is rigged) it is sometimes necessary to apply a slight downward force once the collective has been raised to near flight pitch. Is the Gazelle collective that light when approaching flight or is she similar to the 206 offering a more progressive feel?
Cyclic: Is she boosted and 'sloppy' like the 206 or firmer like the 500 and in terms of responsiveness is she closer to the Ecureuil or the 500?
Any other handling comments would be welcome.
Brgds
S.
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From: Indiana, usa
if you go somewhere to get a flight in a gazelle can you find some info on where or who does major maintenance on them... im really needing some more detailed photos of the swashplate and head assembly dissassembled on the bench... for my 1/7 scale Blue Thunder kit I been working on for a few years...
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From: Croatia
Thanks for think on me, Savoia! Very kind of you indeed
Re I-PNIC, it's always good to see Mr. Pirovano's "home made & rebuild" #2 bird
Re F-GFGM, believe or not I haven't seen this one before. I only have few photos of c/n 1043 when it was D-HOYE. So, thanks once again!
Re I-PNIC, it's always good to see Mr. Pirovano's "home made & rebuild" #2 bird
Re F-GFGM, believe or not
I haven't seen this one before. I only have few photos of c/n 1043 when it was D-HOYE. So, thanks once again!
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What a shame.
The land of All Creatures Great and Small, of Harry Ramsden's fish and chips, Harrogate toffee and Tetley's bitter!
My first ever encounter with the sensation of being inebriated occurred in Yorkshire. I was about twelve and my father had come over to the UK to check on one of his factories in Bradford. He arranged for me to leave school on a Friday morning in order to take the train to Leeds from where I was driven to Yeadon to await his arrival in order to spend the weekend together. Later that evening we returned to Yeadon, to the Leeds Aero Club where Dad met up with his longtime friend Brian Lecomber former RAT 4 in the Rothman's aerobatic team.
If memory serves (and this is now the late 70's) there was a lady by the name of Hilda who served the bar at the Aero Club. Dad had ordered the usual bitter shandy for me so that I could 'join in' with him and Brian. Unknown to me he had connived with Hilda to reduce the ratio of lemonade to bitter so that by the end of the second pint I was feeling quite happy. Several hours later I was intoxicated with Brian and my Dad in fits of laughter and me joining them - feeling merry but also slightly ill. Looking back on it now it was one of those truly memorable occasions with Dad.
Sometimes on those weekends in Yorkshire my father would take me for dinner at a delightful pub in Haworth (Emily Bronte's village) and I would relish the drive to and fro along the winding Yorkshire roads - albeit at night.
Although forced to board at school in the south I always preferred being in the north!
Some Gazelle trivia:
Some may know the actor Brian Cox (below):
But .. did you now he had a Yorkshire-accented brother, Joe, who flies Gazelles and is seen below firing one up!
S.
Never had the urge to go to Yorkshire!
The land of All Creatures Great and Small, of Harry Ramsden's fish and chips, Harrogate toffee and Tetley's bitter!
My first ever encounter with the sensation of being inebriated occurred in Yorkshire. I was about twelve and my father had come over to the UK to check on one of his factories in Bradford. He arranged for me to leave school on a Friday morning in order to take the train to Leeds from where I was driven to Yeadon to await his arrival in order to spend the weekend together. Later that evening we returned to Yeadon, to the Leeds Aero Club where Dad met up with his longtime friend Brian Lecomber former RAT 4 in the Rothman's aerobatic team.
If memory serves (and this is now the late 70's) there was a lady by the name of Hilda who served the bar at the Aero Club. Dad had ordered the usual bitter shandy for me so that I could 'join in' with him and Brian. Unknown to me he had connived with Hilda to reduce the ratio of lemonade to bitter so that by the end of the second pint I was feeling quite happy. Several hours later I was intoxicated with Brian and my Dad in fits of laughter and me joining them - feeling merry but also slightly ill. Looking back on it now it was one of those truly memorable occasions with Dad.
Sometimes on those weekends in Yorkshire my father would take me for dinner at a delightful pub in Haworth (Emily Bronte's village) and I would relish the drive to and fro along the winding Yorkshire roads - albeit at night.
Although forced to board at school in the south I always preferred being in the north!
Some Gazelle trivia:
Some may know the actor Brian Cox (below):
But .. did you now he had a Yorkshire-accented brother, Joe, who flies Gazelles and is seen below firing one up!
S.
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From: Kings Caple, Ross-on-Wye.orPiccots End. Hertfordshire
Hi Steve,
I didn't realise you'd emigrated that far away!! ... A big thanks for the invite, something I'll try and take up but mainly to meet up with you again and share a chat or perhaps a beer! ... or three.
Loved the Gazelle flying oop at Norfolk .. a truly incredible ship. My article appears in the revised BLADES next month. Hope there's not too many technical errors.
Take care all. Dennis Kenyon.
I didn't realise you'd emigrated that far away!! ... A big thanks for the invite, something I'll try and take up but mainly to meet up with you again and share a chat or perhaps a beer! ... or three.
Loved the Gazelle flying oop at Norfolk .. a truly incredible ship. My article appears in the revised BLADES next month. Hope there's not too many technical errors.
Take care all. Dennis Kenyon.
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Dennisimo! I would ask the same. I'm not really familiar with 'Blades' but if it is not available online how about posting highlights of your review on this thread once the article has run its course on Blades - you know, for those of us not in the UK? As mentioned above, would love to know about some of the Gazelle's handling qualities.
Ciao
S.
Dennisimo! I would ask the same. I'm not really familiar with 'Blades' but if it is not available online how about posting highlights of your review on this thread once the article has run its course on Blades - you know, for those of us not in the UK? As mentioned above, would love to know about some of the Gazelle's handling qualities.
Ciao
S.