Silverstone GP Heli Ops
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Attention all military freelance pilots working at Silverstone this year.
You are cordially invited to attend corporate hospitality, provided by the gratefull taxpayer. Attractions to include: lots of naked ladies, suffering from amnesia; Mr Tony Blair and his 'let's give the military more wonga' roadshow; Free alcohol, for pilots only; and the chance to, yet again, have a famous Swindon girl on your back seat.....
You are cordially invited to attend corporate hospitality, provided by the gratefull taxpayer. Attractions to include: lots of naked ladies, suffering from amnesia; Mr Tony Blair and his 'let's give the military more wonga' roadshow; Free alcohol, for pilots only; and the chance to, yet again, have a famous Swindon girl on your back seat.....
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But seriously, folks – what are the feelings amongst you current rotary inclined gentlemen about this annual exercise in first hand experience of multiple airproxes – especially as this year Silverstone is being held much earlier in a potentially more inclement season?
I for one thoroughly enjoyed being there on the good weather days but the bad days made me wonder about the sanity of the whole thing. Have things changed – is the organisation any better nowadays?
Are there still rumours of the British Grand Prix being held at some time in the future at Brands Hatch? Having done the Brands run when the GP was held there in 1980, I seem to remember the local area topography made the whole thing more difficult with the low cloud we had that year, compared to a low cloud Silverstone day. I came v. close to writing myself off in a mid-air with everyone down at 500 ft – and the traffic was nothing like as bad back then.
I for one thoroughly enjoyed being there on the good weather days but the bad days made me wonder about the sanity of the whole thing. Have things changed – is the organisation any better nowadays?
Are there still rumours of the British Grand Prix being held at some time in the future at Brands Hatch? Having done the Brands run when the GP was held there in 1980, I seem to remember the local area topography made the whole thing more difficult with the low cloud we had that year, compared to a low cloud Silverstone day. I came v. close to writing myself off in a mid-air with everyone down at 500 ft – and the traffic was nothing like as bad back then.
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I realise that you're obviously trying to be provocative Pinger, so I'll play your game.
Fu ck off you red nosed c**t, don't give me that holier than thou attitude. Coming from a branch of the FAA that is universally reviled(according to your name)you're afine one to talk Or are you just using that name to make everyone think that you're a tosser.
In the immortal words of another of the members of this forum "Eat Me!!!!!
[This message has been edited by Reg C Elley (edited 25 March 2000).]
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Back to the 'Silverstone' topic.
ATC still insist on clearing batches of callsigns in and through the system, so they just move the hazard closer to the cct. There's no trickle feed or proactive ATC 'control'. You end up calling for entry 20 minutes before you anticipate getting to the area, normally when you're finals for your feeder site, the sortie before the sortie in question, if you know what I mean.
Brands have got major planning permission requirements to succeed with before the venue is of F1 spec.
Silverstone's still fun, or should I say the bits in between Silverstone are still fun. I mean where else do you get paid to perv....
ATC still insist on clearing batches of callsigns in and through the system, so they just move the hazard closer to the cct. There's no trickle feed or proactive ATC 'control'. You end up calling for entry 20 minutes before you anticipate getting to the area, normally when you're finals for your feeder site, the sortie before the sortie in question, if you know what I mean.
Brands have got major planning permission requirements to succeed with before the venue is of F1 spec.
Silverstone's still fun, or should I say the bits in between Silverstone are still fun. I mean where else do you get paid to perv....
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Reg, bystander or not youre a pretty sad case arent you? As you so shrewdly (should that be "shrewishly"?) observed I was being a little provocative, but making a point all the same. Have you even been to Silverstone heliport, or did it just rattle one of the skeletons in your cupboard?
You make risky assumptions based on names in this forum, most of us pick up on that fairly quickly, but sadly not everyone I see.
Your personal, offensive and childishly disguised invective is simply beneath contempt.
I think youve proved beyond doubt what kind of person you are.
You make risky assumptions based on names in this forum, most of us pick up on that fairly quickly, but sadly not everyone I see.
Your personal, offensive and childishly disguised invective is simply beneath contempt.
I think youve proved beyond doubt what kind of person you are.
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OK Pinger, my offensive and childish disguised(as what???),invective aside. Just what point were you trying to make? I don't belive that my references to 'Pingers' even approached the diparaging, almost libellous jibe directed at a group of aviators trained by the same Tri-service organisation that trains the other but unmentioned services.
Please excuse my obvious stupidity,if you have a problem being identified as a pinger why adopt that pseudonym? You were right though, I allowed the anger of a moment overcome my better judgement, so I unreservedly withdraw my remarks about pingers, even if the junglies wouldn't agree.
But yes you're absolutely right I don't like an organisation of which I'm inordinately proud being 'slagged off' by someone who obviously knows little about it.
And just for the record - no skeletons in my cupboard.
Please excuse my obvious stupidity,if you have a problem being identified as a pinger why adopt that pseudonym? You were right though, I allowed the anger of a moment overcome my better judgement, so I unreservedly withdraw my remarks about pingers, even if the junglies wouldn't agree.
But yes you're absolutely right I don't like an organisation of which I'm inordinately proud being 'slagged off' by someone who obviously knows little about it.
And just for the record - no skeletons in my cupboard.
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Sorry I must have come in a bit late over Silverstone but Reg C Elley must get real! Nearly 80% of the fAA are, have been or have worked extremely closely with Pingers. Your rather monocular comments wrt Pingers infers that you really don't know what they do! Whilst sitting in a 40' hover at night / IMC in a heavy aircraft over rough seas a long way from mum might not be everyones cup of tea, those that do it, actually do it quite well! I remember the Pingers as the blokes who can hold their beer, trap the women and still make the early Ripple slot on time! You should remember that whilst the rest of the Rotary fraternity went on goggles the Pingers got the hind tit and subsequently still do all their stuff including 24 Hr Mountain SAR without the benefit of the magic goggles. Whilst there will undoubtedly be those out there who need to get their dicks out to prove how good a pilot they are, the only real pole you should be hanging on to is the one connected to the cockpit floor! Now lets be nice to each other, seeing as we're all going to be fighting for the same airspace on finals at Silverstone!
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Great defence for Pingers, Sloppylinkage – appreciated as former member of that ilk. At least the present guys do it on two engines and at 40 ft. In the dear old Wessy 1 we did it on one engine and at 30ft. The Gazelle engine topped out at 19900 compressor rpm and if you hadn’t made the hover by 19600 rpm you overshot using the remaining 300 compressor rpm to climb out at, if an old memory serves me right, some 80 ft/min. No room for stick stirrers during the go around! In the Far East during the early to mid 60’s with such a narrow margin for error it was not an uncommon occurrence for crews to fail to make the hover and fly straight into the water at night.
Compared to the performance of the Whirly 7 we thought we were in clover with such an upmarket aircraft and systems. Love to have a go in the Merlin, but would probably feel too spoilt with three motors.
Ain’t nostalgia wonderful!!
Bit off the Silverstone topic – apologies, but good luck to all you guys who are going to cram yourselves into the airspace there next month.
Compared to the performance of the Whirly 7 we thought we were in clover with such an upmarket aircraft and systems. Love to have a go in the Merlin, but would probably feel too spoilt with three motors.
Ain’t nostalgia wonderful!!
Bit off the Silverstone topic – apologies, but good luck to all you guys who are going to cram yourselves into the airspace there next month.
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Wasn't Silverstone Fun This Year
Just thought I'd let everyone know how I loved Silverstone this year. And a special thanks go to all those who didn't know where East point was, or thought it was about 10 miles from Silverstone. Great.
But you could't keep me away. I'll be there again next year. Love it!!
But you could't keep me away. I'll be there again next year. Love it!!