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Oh.....I have misunderstood. If a spare part is purchased, the cost of which is partly or fully covered from charitable donations, it ONLY is used on the ‘non commercial’ Community EMS helicopter. Along with separate fuel installations at your base, one for the EMS “community” helicopter, the other for the ‘commercial’ helicopter? That is like believing your existing French Antarctic contract is not a commercial venture. Oh, and didn’t we see the Community EMS helicopter fighting fires in all parts of the land of OZ when it was the only one you had?
Simply typing the largest number of words does not automatically ensure truthfulness and believability.
I’m yet to meet a pilot, paid in accordance with the Award that drives a “BMW” and receives other benefits to the extent displayed by some of the LF personnel. How about putting that benefit back into the Community you so often mention, and take a less privileged package.
Now this one has me confused;
Again, we do not compete with commercial operators... and if we do undertake work along side commercial operators (such as fire fighting) it is done at the maximum rate we can get!!
So LF does not compete, they undertake work along side. Mmmmm.......now that’s one to ponder. The LF costs needed to be recovered from the same cake (commercial work available) are less than those of a commercial operator competing for the same work. FACT.
And Brett, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the fact that over 90% (my guess) of ppruners use a ‘handle’, as last I looked, this was a ‘rumor network’. That’s what happens on these forums you know!
Well at least we got you on back after you said you were finished with us.
Simply typing the largest number of words does not automatically ensure truthfulness and believability.
I’m yet to meet a pilot, paid in accordance with the Award that drives a “BMW” and receives other benefits to the extent displayed by some of the LF personnel. How about putting that benefit back into the Community you so often mention, and take a less privileged package.
Now this one has me confused;
Again, we do not compete with commercial operators... and if we do undertake work along side commercial operators (such as fire fighting) it is done at the maximum rate we can get!!
So LF does not compete, they undertake work along side. Mmmmm.......now that’s one to ponder. The LF costs needed to be recovered from the same cake (commercial work available) are less than those of a commercial operator competing for the same work. FACT.
And Brett, I wouldn’t get too hung up on the fact that over 90% (my guess) of ppruners use a ‘handle’, as last I looked, this was a ‘rumor network’. That’s what happens on these forums you know!
Well at least we got you on back after you said you were finished with us.
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Small Talk.....
Please be careful with the "US" word.
You have been a distant lonely voice since you started here.
Never assume the silent majority is anywhere close behind you.
You have been a distant lonely voice since you started here.
Never assume the silent majority is anywhere close behind you.
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Aussie Mate,
There's always two sides to a story, and the truth may lay somewhere in the middle
So BR can register on Pprune, post only on this thread, and suddenly his word is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Any more than me, or talklimited, or any others?
Assertions that non core function work was obtained by not undercutting the opposition, what a crock! Of course you got the work because you were cheaper, that's all the French were after. Going out at a higher rate than commercial operators? Business is business, you get work by being cheaper to operate (subsidised, sponsered, homogeonised, it's all the same when someone else is giving you a cool million to keep your charity in business) and undercutting real operators.
So, how about addressing the real issues, Brett. Why does LF have such a turnover of pilots? Why does lifeflight dabble in commercial charter, to the detriment of other operators? Why do the senior management have such lucrative packages? When will LF get on with its core EMS work, and leave commercial work to commercial (non subsidised) operators.
There's always two sides to a story, and the truth may lay somewhere in the middle
So BR can register on Pprune, post only on this thread, and suddenly his word is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Any more than me, or talklimited, or any others?
Assertions that non core function work was obtained by not undercutting the opposition, what a crock! Of course you got the work because you were cheaper, that's all the French were after. Going out at a higher rate than commercial operators? Business is business, you get work by being cheaper to operate (subsidised, sponsered, homogeonised, it's all the same when someone else is giving you a cool million to keep your charity in business) and undercutting real operators.
So, how about addressing the real issues, Brett. Why does LF have such a turnover of pilots? Why does lifeflight dabble in commercial charter, to the detriment of other operators? Why do the senior management have such lucrative packages? When will LF get on with its core EMS work, and leave commercial work to commercial (non subsidised) operators.
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Talk Limited & Destabilized.
Two Aussie pricks that I hope I never get to meet!
Mr Rankin came on board to truthfully answer ALL you claims and allegations - AND YOUR STILL NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!
Look at Air Methods - they currently have vacancies for about a dozen pilots. Why don't you start on them about pilot turnover?
Brett - I strongly suggest that you stay off this thread and let these guys beat themselves around the head.
Sasless and Aussie mate -
Two Aussie pricks that I hope I never get to meet!
Mr Rankin came on board to truthfully answer ALL you claims and allegations - AND YOUR STILL NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!
Look at Air Methods - they currently have vacancies for about a dozen pilots. Why don't you start on them about pilot turnover?
Brett - I strongly suggest that you stay off this thread and let these guys beat themselves around the head.
Sasless and Aussie mate -
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Well boys, it's been quite a muck raking exercise. Quite enlightening really.
At the end of the day, the ultimate litmus test is how often a company advertises in the OZ for the same staff. High turn over, low morale. Your choice.
At the end of the day, the ultimate litmus test is how often a company advertises in the OZ for the same staff. High turn over, low morale. Your choice.
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After 5 pages, the original query of why was there such a high turnover of pilots has not really been answered. Brett has been kind enough to explain what LF does, but who is Brett?
Brett used to be a crewman at Surf Life Saving Queensland and for that matter his father is president of Surf, a top bloke. Brett started LF and became CEO. However like several other EMS/rescue outfits that have a crewman as head honcho/ CEO, the pilots have often not got on with their CEO being a crewman in the back, frequently telling pilots how to fly and other things which needless to say will upset most pilots, especially the chief pilot. To lose 2 chief pilots in such a short period plus other line pilots is not good and obviously all is not perfect.
Having said that, Brett has at least been good enough to give long replies that some may not believe; that is their prerogative.
You'll note that I too use my name.
Brett used to be a crewman at Surf Life Saving Queensland and for that matter his father is president of Surf, a top bloke. Brett started LF and became CEO. However like several other EMS/rescue outfits that have a crewman as head honcho/ CEO, the pilots have often not got on with their CEO being a crewman in the back, frequently telling pilots how to fly and other things which needless to say will upset most pilots, especially the chief pilot. To lose 2 chief pilots in such a short period plus other line pilots is not good and obviously all is not perfect.
Having said that, Brett has at least been good enough to give long replies that some may not believe; that is their prerogative.
You'll note that I too use my name.
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Aussie “hate”.....your first posting on this thread. Keep your eye on the ball, not the man.
“Mr Rankin came on board to truthfully answer ALL you claims and allegations - AND YOUR STILL NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!”
Oogle......your determination that Brett has told the truth and other opinions are false is like my assertions, opinions that I believe. So don’t claim one side to be true when you don’t know. Courts of law have difficulty seeking the truth, but you seem to recognize it instantly.
“I consider Brett a good friend, and have a close and professional relationship with him, despite losing a job or two to Lifeflight along the way!”
JE. Thanks for confirming that LF conduct commercial bidding at the expense of commercial operators.
I rest my case.
“Mr Rankin came on board to truthfully answer ALL you claims and allegations - AND YOUR STILL NOT HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!”
Oogle......your determination that Brett has told the truth and other opinions are false is like my assertions, opinions that I believe. So don’t claim one side to be true when you don’t know. Courts of law have difficulty seeking the truth, but you seem to recognize it instantly.
“I consider Brett a good friend, and have a close and professional relationship with him, despite losing a job or two to Lifeflight along the way!”
JE. Thanks for confirming that LF conduct commercial bidding at the expense of commercial operators.
I rest my case.
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The question still remains unanswered. Why the constant turn over of drivers? Answer is simple: Have you ever met BR? Just spending a short time with the man is enough to answer everything. Not one ex employee (or current for that matter) has a good thing to say about the guy. That is an almost unheard of situation. Where there is smoke there is fire and in BR's case the Sky Crane couldn't put this guy out. He has played more dirty tricks and last minute deceptions than even the most shonky operators. Don't be fooled by the pages of crap that he purports as the truth. He should sell cars. He will talk on and on about this and that....drifting all the contributors to this forum further and further away from the original question. Speak to the people that have worked at LF. Talk to the Ambos that knew him before LF. The story is always the same. The evidence is overwhelming that the reason for the HUGE and CONSTANT turnover of air crew at LF is........BR.
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A Shonk?, or not..?
Remember a chap by the name of, John Fredericks?
For all those folk out there that work within Queensland Rescue [Townsville], CHC Military SAR or Helimed 1, spare a thought for the "shonk’s, or perceived Shonk’s" of this world.
Without their vision and enthusiasm [be that misguided] you may still be flipping Beef Patties at MacDonald’s.
For all those folk out there that work within Queensland Rescue [Townsville], CHC Military SAR or Helimed 1, spare a thought for the "shonk’s, or perceived Shonk’s" of this world.
Without their vision and enthusiasm [be that misguided] you may still be flipping Beef Patties at MacDonald’s.
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JUST TO CLEAR THE AIR!!!!!
I would like to be able to share my opinion on this subject, but there are those who would start to question my motives (and abilities) as they have in previous Life Flight posts. (A certain pilot from YSCB comes to mind).
I may have made a stupid mistake, and as a consequence have had to wear the embarassment of getting the bullet from LF.
My main reason for posting is to stop certain people from thinking I am posting under many psuedonyms. The moderator would not allow this.
I have learnt the hard way that it is much better to keep opinions to myself. It's not hard to read between the lines of some of the posts.
I'm sure that all will be revealed in due course without my input.
Jason Walburn
I would like to be able to share my opinion on this subject, but there are those who would start to question my motives (and abilities) as they have in previous Life Flight posts. (A certain pilot from YSCB comes to mind).
I may have made a stupid mistake, and as a consequence have had to wear the embarassment of getting the bullet from LF.
My main reason for posting is to stop certain people from thinking I am posting under many psuedonyms. The moderator would not allow this.
I have learnt the hard way that it is much better to keep opinions to myself. It's not hard to read between the lines of some of the posts.
I'm sure that all will be revealed in due course without my input.
Jason Walburn
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Too Cloudy:
That is a pity.
Your slip in judgement aside, you could answer the ORIGINAL QUESTION, better than most.
Still, the answer to the question is quite clear.
High turn over of the Chief pilot's position at LF? Personnel management problems? Of course they are! Questions do need to be asked.
How many accidents in the industry can be inked back to a poor management structure, systemic failings, or a break down in relations between administrators (read: self appointed CEO) and flight crew in some company?
I would never wish CASA investigation upon any operator but CASA would be very justified in asking those type of questions.
Not sure why everyone is dancing around the bleeding obvious!!
The turn overs will continue as long as BR is at LF. He is hated by his staff, within days of their starting. Ask them!
Looking forward to reading your memoirs, JW. Would make a good read.
That is a pity.
Your slip in judgement aside, you could answer the ORIGINAL QUESTION, better than most.
Still, the answer to the question is quite clear.
High turn over of the Chief pilot's position at LF? Personnel management problems? Of course they are! Questions do need to be asked.
How many accidents in the industry can be inked back to a poor management structure, systemic failings, or a break down in relations between administrators (read: self appointed CEO) and flight crew in some company?
I would never wish CASA investigation upon any operator but CASA would be very justified in asking those type of questions.
Not sure why everyone is dancing around the bleeding obvious!!
The turn overs will continue as long as BR is at LF. He is hated by his staff, within days of their starting. Ask them!
Looking forward to reading your memoirs, JW. Would make a good read.
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This thread is now going around in circles and getting nowhere.
People on both sides of the divide have had their say, as well as those who are clearly neutral.
I'm now closing it.
If anyone is desperate to say something, e-mail me and tell me what it will add to what's already been said.
Heliport
People on both sides of the divide have had their say, as well as those who are clearly neutral.
I'm now closing it.
If anyone is desperate to say something, e-mail me and tell me what it will add to what's already been said.
Heliport
