Flying in the Persian/Arabian Gulf
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Terms and conditions ADA this year 2004??
Year 2000
basic salary/month= 15873 AED + food addition 650 AED. Total 16523 AED. ( divide the sum AED with 3.67 and you get USD. It used to be an fixed rate)
Life insurace 30.000 STG.
ADA reimburse for all medical expences (with some exeptions) when at work, otherwise nothing.
Airline economy ticket to "point of hire".
LOL (or what you can call it) 3 months salary (yes itīs true, an incredible approx. 13.500 USD)
Schedule 8 weeks on 4 weeks off.
Accomondation for free, and they are as described. Miserable!!
The pilots and technicians are a good bunch of guys!
I do understand the high turnaruond of personell
O.M.P
Year 2000
basic salary/month= 15873 AED + food addition 650 AED. Total 16523 AED. ( divide the sum AED with 3.67 and you get USD. It used to be an fixed rate)
Life insurace 30.000 STG.
ADA reimburse for all medical expences (with some exeptions) when at work, otherwise nothing.
Airline economy ticket to "point of hire".
LOL (or what you can call it) 3 months salary (yes itīs true, an incredible approx. 13.500 USD)
Schedule 8 weeks on 4 weeks off.
Accomondation for free, and they are as described. Miserable!!
The pilots and technicians are a good bunch of guys!
I do understand the high turnaruond of personell
O.M.P
Until this last summer , Abu Dhabi's 212 were here doing firefighting , but this time with spanish pilots, and spanish "operators" in the left seat.
I'll try to get one of these operator seats this summer
I love those 212!
Regards.
I'll try to get one of these operator seats this summer
I love those 212!
Regards.
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Gulf Helicopters is just about to announce a pay rise....rumoured to be 12% which would put the line pilots on US$300 a day.....given that the housing here is excellent and the company will shortly be providing transport to and from the heliport, it puts them a lot closer to ADA now.
That said it's still not witout its fair share of problems, all of which have been done to death so you probably all know!!
Like everyone else in the region, Gulf Helis is recruiting and are short of pilots to the point where they are offering time and a half for pilots to extend their tours.
I agree with the opinion that Doha is not a bad place to live for a couple of years.
That said it's still not witout its fair share of problems, all of which have been done to death so you probably all know!!
Like everyone else in the region, Gulf Helis is recruiting and are short of pilots to the point where they are offering time and a half for pilots to extend their tours.
I agree with the opinion that Doha is not a bad place to live for a couple of years.
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as i zero hour wannabe, i read these pages through interest, not job opportunities.
I've noticed on this thread there are pilots of all nationalities job hunting in the emirates. could someone please give me a rough idea of which licences can be used elsewhere without having to convert [i.e. where a FAA ticket can be used outside the US, a JAA one outside the EU, and a CASA one outside Oz].
hope i'm one day complaining of lousy conditions in foreign countries.
Cheers,
Phil.
I've noticed on this thread there are pilots of all nationalities job hunting in the emirates. could someone please give me a rough idea of which licences can be used elsewhere without having to convert [i.e. where a FAA ticket can be used outside the US, a JAA one outside the EU, and a CASA one outside Oz].
hope i'm one day complaining of lousy conditions in foreign countries.
Cheers,
Phil.
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Hi folks.
Just had a quick look at Gulf Helis website, and it says they are offering, amongst other things, married accompanied positions, either contract or permanent. Can anyone shed any light as to the 'package' available for this option??
Just had a quick look at Gulf Helis website, and it says they are offering, amongst other things, married accompanied positions, either contract or permanent. Can anyone shed any light as to the 'package' available for this option??
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Hi All
It was announced yesterday that Gulf Helis pilots are to receive a 10% pay rise (only on their "base salary") as of 1 March 2004.
If you join now as a touring pilot (either 8 & 4 or 6 & 6) you will receive USD$292.70 per day for each day worked.
Don't believe the web site re married accompanied positions being available. They are now reserved for Line Trainers and above.
When you join you will be asked to go to Kish Island (in Iran). Here you will be expected to operate completely outside the Flight and Duty Times section of the Ops Manual. For example, fly all day, then night standby from 1800 to 0600, then fly all day again the next day. And people have done night medivacs and still been expected to fly all day the next day.
But as I've said before, if you have to put bread on the table, then I guess you have to risk it. Wonder how delightful Iranian gaols are :-)
It was announced yesterday that Gulf Helis pilots are to receive a 10% pay rise (only on their "base salary") as of 1 March 2004.
If you join now as a touring pilot (either 8 & 4 or 6 & 6) you will receive USD$292.70 per day for each day worked.
Don't believe the web site re married accompanied positions being available. They are now reserved for Line Trainers and above.
When you join you will be asked to go to Kish Island (in Iran). Here you will be expected to operate completely outside the Flight and Duty Times section of the Ops Manual. For example, fly all day, then night standby from 1800 to 0600, then fly all day again the next day. And people have done night medivacs and still been expected to fly all day the next day.
But as I've said before, if you have to put bread on the table, then I guess you have to risk it. Wonder how delightful Iranian gaols are :-)
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Please excuse my ignorance but I'm trying to figure out how the pay works for an 8&4 or a 6&6 for that matter. That's a hell of a lot of consecutive days of work before you get your leave. Assuming that you actually do get a few days off during the tour,(and I'm sure that's probably pretty bloody obvious, hence the little disclaimer at the beginning of the sentence), then are you paid the daily rate only for each day you are on shift and if so, then how many days should one expect to subtract from , say a 6 week stint, when trying to calculate exact pay?
I'm sure I could have worded that better, without sounding like an idiot but hopefully someone out there can figure out what the hell I'm talking about.
I'm sure I could have worded that better, without sounding like an idiot but hopefully someone out there can figure out what the hell I'm talking about.
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Okay Air Won, this how it normally goes for what you, in America, call touring. If you work 6/6 for example, you may or may not get some days off, depends on the company. For the pay, with Gulf Helicopters you are paid a daily rate of $X per day on site either in Qatar or wherever they send you to work (whether you work or not), but you're not paid for the time you're on leave. so, for Gulf, on 6/6 you get $X x 183 per year. It does mean that your pay goes up and down. For ADA they also actually work on daily rate, but they just basically say that 6/6 is $X per year and 8/4 is $Y per year and then pay you one twelfth of that per month. It doesn't quite work out like that, but in general that's about it.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
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Thanks for the reply. Not much to entice someone really. Only about $55,000 give or take. For that amount, the tax benefit is minimal. No wonder guys are leaving in droves.
Follow on from my last. Aramco seems to have an ad out every week. Does anyone know how strict the ATP requirement is, assuming you exceed all the other minimums? Also, and I know this was touched on in an earlier post, does anyone have actual pay for these guys? Thanks gents.
Follow on from my last. Aramco seems to have an ad out every week. Does anyone know how strict the ATP requirement is, assuming you exceed all the other minimums? Also, and I know this was touched on in an earlier post, does anyone have actual pay for these guys? Thanks gents.
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Hi Airwon
Don't have the payscales but may I suggest you consider the following re Aramco:
1. You will be playing babysitter to local captains, ie. they will always be captain and you are there to "assist".
2. Check your government's travel advisories about travel to Saudi Arabia, especially the Eastern Province where Aramco is located.
Cheers.
Don't have the payscales but may I suggest you consider the following re Aramco:
1. You will be playing babysitter to local captains, ie. they will always be captain and you are there to "assist".
2. Check your government's travel advisories about travel to Saudi Arabia, especially the Eastern Province where Aramco is located.
Cheers.
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Gulf ppruners?
Im researching in to flying and working in the Gulf states particularly Kuwait. Any one out there who could help please?
Thanks.
The bloke.
Thanks.
The bloke.
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AirWon, Saudi Aramco has raised the starting pay for ATP Consultant pilots to $6180 per month on a 8&4 schedule. Additionally, pilots get $2100 per break for tickets (you buy it and keep the difference)