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Old 26th Oct 2009, 22:06
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i believe that helinuigini are leasing 2 for an upcoming contract out of pt moresby, i think they are scouting for drivers too
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Is the contract you are referring to offshore or onshore ?

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Old 27th Oct 2009, 07:56
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https://heliniugini.aero/aircraft-fleet/

They do list the 214ST as part of thier fleet in the above URL. Not sure what sort of contracts they have.
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re contract, i belive onshore...telikuma?? juswt got info from a mate in cairns that one ST was on the line at the airport.... thinking it's now on the way?
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Bell 214 information

Hi guys, I need some help trying to find some info on a Bell 214. Does flying with bubble doors/windows result in any air speed restrictions? I can't seem to find it in the flight manual...

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Old 30th Oct 2009, 06:56
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Normally 120 kts

the company you are working for will be able to confirm that
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Thanks for the speedy reply

I assumed it was 120 kts, I just couldn't find anything specific in the Manual about them.

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Mmmmm ....

Should there not be a "supplement" for a "Bubble Window" installation in the RFM .... in which case variations to the Limitations would be there!


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There's nothing about bubble windows in the supplements (Section10). I'll do a bit more searching but it's not too big a drama.

Thanks again guys for your help.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 10:40
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There's nothing about bubble windows in the supplements (Section10)
Then either the RFM is not up to date or the aircraft has an unapproved modification.

Which 214 are you talking about B, B-1 or ST?
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The VNE is 140 kts as per our flight supplement . If the helicopter your talking about is yellow and blue ,it won't be in there .
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It's not for a job, I was lucky enough to be given a copy and I wanted to learn more about them - my curiosity's getting the better of me. It's a B1 model.
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Old 31st Oct 2009, 04:49
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I have the flight manual on my hard drive as well as the m.m 's. ST one's as well .
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I've got a few more questions about these awesome machines.

The maximum rate of climb is limited to 2000ft/min. Is this a strtuctural limit? e.g. Main GB stress limit or a Parasite Drag etc? I've never been in anything powerful enough to have a limit as such.

Why does the HYD System 1 run cooler? Does System 1 have less load, have longer piping or similar (which inadvertantly aids in heat conduction)??

When do the secondary nozzles open during starting? When N1 is 37%?

I don't expect them all to be answered, but nay help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you
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Old 7th Nov 2009, 09:12
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Maximum rate of climb - think ballistics, how long will you wait after the engine fails for gravity to take over and enter autorotation? 6-7000 fpm can be achieved. i.e > 60 knots. Also it is possible for the greenhouse windows above your head to fall in on you.

HYD is similar to 212/412 the pump is turning faster. Design thing, the second pump came along later and is driven from a different part of the MGB.

When do the secondary nozzles open? Who cares, just that they do.

B1 means reduced internal gross weight over B and is only a flight manual change to be technically under 12,500 lbs.
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Mmmmm ....


Yes ... the Hyd System 1 pump runs quite a bit slower (by nearly 2000 rpm I think) and as it also operates the Yaw system Hydraulics has more pipe work and thus runs much cooler.


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Cheers guys
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Old 26th Nov 2009, 19:43
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the b1 is the most amazing machine ,,, how did u get a flight manual ,, or is it a hard drive copy
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Not the B1, but eivissa is so kind to provide anybody who asks nicely with a download link to manuals of the 214B and 214ST.
The impressive list of manuals he has, can be found here:
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/354...ml#post5336244
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Bell 214 / Rocky Mountain Helicopters

Hi, I'm looking for a database on the Bell 214 if anyone has one
and photos of any of RMH 214's.

Simon Beck
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