Becoming a Police Pilot
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I won't go into details for obvious reasons. Suffice to say it is considerably more than the pilots are paid. It would be nice to think that the annual % increases to the customer are also reflected at the end of the month to the pilots. They're not!! 
Having done further research on pilot salaries, the following may be of interest:
The least paid police line pilot is the rookie joining the industry via a service provider for the first time on approx £30,000; pound for pound pension up to a maximum of £100/month, and an income protection scheme (75%) for a maximum of 1 year. 28 days leave total. No guarantee of annual increments or annual pay rises.
The best paid police line pilot is fairly experienced and joining as a directly employed pilot on £40,000; superannuation scheme (occupational pension, index linked), loss of licence cover to £150,000, personal accident protection. 31 days leave total. Annual pay rise linked to a government pay review board and annual increments to reflect experience.
The best paid pilots, overall:
A training grade chief pilot (TRE/IRE/CTC) with 'x'years time in the trade, directly employed, not necessarily government service...with an IR. £55,000. + pension, private health insurance, LOL, company car and other performance related benefits.
What level of professional equivalence would you define a line pilot; and a chief pilot?
Consultant/solicitor/doctor/shop foreman/deputy headmaster/chief inspector/lieutenant commander/major/sergeant/chief engineer
The least paid police line pilot is the rookie joining the industry via a service provider for the first time on approx £30,000; pound for pound pension up to a maximum of £100/month, and an income protection scheme (75%) for a maximum of 1 year. 28 days leave total. No guarantee of annual increments or annual pay rises.
The best paid police line pilot is fairly experienced and joining as a directly employed pilot on £40,000; superannuation scheme (occupational pension, index linked), loss of licence cover to £150,000, personal accident protection. 31 days leave total. Annual pay rise linked to a government pay review board and annual increments to reflect experience.
The best paid pilots, overall:
A training grade chief pilot (TRE/IRE/CTC) with 'x'years time in the trade, directly employed, not necessarily government service...with an IR. £55,000. + pension, private health insurance, LOL, company car and other performance related benefits.
What level of professional equivalence would you define a line pilot; and a chief pilot?
Consultant/solicitor/doctor/shop foreman/deputy headmaster/chief inspector/lieutenant commander/major/sergeant/chief engineer
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You're right!
I was re-offered the same job 5 years later - and the salary hadn't increased one penny!
ShyT
I was re-offered the same job 5 years later - and the salary hadn't increased one penny!
ShyT
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Guys,
Sit tight and the laws of supply and demand will kick in.
When a police pilot job advert fails to attract anyone with the required experience, because they've all gone to the airlines, we might just see a reasonable remuneration.
Thats as long as there are no playboy hobby pilots left!
Sit tight and the laws of supply and demand will kick in.
When a police pilot job advert fails to attract anyone with the required experience, because they've all gone to the airlines, we might just see a reasonable remuneration.
Thats as long as there are no playboy hobby pilots left!
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TC - I can't see the police allowing a drop in experience levels whatever service providers say. The Home Office & CAA are quite keen that the minimum levels stated in the PAOM are increased.
As far as the police training their own????
As far as the police training their own????
Marco, it happened recently. I was there when a service provider commented that they were having trouble finding pilots with existing POM quals. They asked for a review of these quals and lo and behold some forces have massaged the requirements to fit!!
Can't hear any noises from the glass house?
W.R.T. police training their own...it's what the yanks do. Not inconceivable methinks...on the other hand, they'd never stay for a bobbies salry would they??
Can't hear any noises from the glass house?
W.R.T. police training their own...it's what the yanks do. Not inconceivable methinks...on the other hand, they'd never stay for a bobbies salry would they??
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Well now. I'm told that at least one well known provider is charging the bobbies over twice what they actually pay the pilots: the latter getting circa £31K.
In most cases direct employment means that the pilots' would get much more than they do now and the bill to the tax payers would actually be less!!
I don't think many police or air ambulance pilots expect to get North Sea pay, just the ones employed by the providers would like to get a little more - not too much to ask for 10 and 12 hour night shifts!
In most cases direct employment means that the pilots' would get much more than they do now and the bill to the tax payers would actually be less!!
I don't think many police or air ambulance pilots expect to get North Sea pay, just the ones employed by the providers would like to get a little more - not too much to ask for 10 and 12 hour night shifts!
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The thought of the police training thier own!!! Yuk
All that you will end up with is another group of tunnel visioned YES men with a limited range of flying experiance and and the personality of a doorstop.
for self training read inbreading
Granade!!!!!!!!
The thought of the police training thier own!!! Yuk
All that you will end up with is another group of tunnel visioned YES men with a limited range of flying experiance and and the personality of a doorstop.
for self training read inbreading
Granade!!!!!!!!
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TC - I have no doubt you are absolutely correct. More fool the police force who accepts lower standards, certainly not a "duty of care for their employees" to coin a popular phrase in police circles. Let us hope there isn't any sort of incident which will force their hand.
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As an ex plod who now flys helicopters, I agree totally. Police trained pilots would be a bad idea, as they wouldn't get the experience.
I have been out of the job for over 14 years and had a wide and varied flying career, which I now feel gives me a chance to return to Police aviation.....but the salary I was recently offered £32k by McAlpine, Jim new the response he received!
£50k + you are worth it, but the question is asked, where do the police get the funds to increase the pay from? It is not like the oil industry, where the clients have billions to spend?
I have been out of the job for over 14 years and had a wide and varied flying career, which I now feel gives me a chance to return to Police aviation.....but the salary
I was recently offered £32k by McAlpine, Jim new the response he received!£50k + you are worth it, but the question is asked, where do the police get the funds to increase the pay from? It is not like the oil industry, where the clients have billions to spend?
Just a numbered other
Re the police training their own:
Exactly what happened in the infancy of Police aviation [no reference to PAS]. Result: one Optica and two bobbies in a smoking hole.
That brought about the status quo we now enjoy, i.e. experienced professional pilots in Police aviation.
I am concerned that as many (including me) poke off to the airlines for £60k plus salaries, the old bill will have to pay a lot more or lower standards to fill seats. It is already happening.
Exactly what happened in the infancy of Police aviation [no reference to PAS]. Result: one Optica and two bobbies in a smoking hole.
That brought about the status quo we now enjoy, i.e. experienced professional pilots in Police aviation.
I am concerned that as many (including me) poke off to the airlines for £60k plus salaries, the old bill will have to pay a lot more or lower standards to fill seats. It is already happening.
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UK Police / US Conversion
Hello all,
I'm here to ask advice and words of wisdom.
1. I am trying to find out the normal requirements to land a job with the UK Police aviation devision.I keep searching but come up with nothing.
2. If anyone has information about converting from the FAA to the JAA i would love to hear it.
If anyone would like to email me on either question i would be thankfull.
[email protected]
Cheers Lee...
I'm here to ask advice and words of wisdom.
1. I am trying to find out the normal requirements to land a job with the UK Police aviation devision.I keep searching but come up with nothing.
2. If anyone has information about converting from the FAA to the JAA i would love to hear it.
If anyone would like to email me on either question i would be thankfull.
[email protected]
Cheers Lee...
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There is no such thing as the UK Police Division.
You need to speak either to Police Aviation Services, MacAlpine Helicopters, or Aeromega who are the main civilian contractors providing pilots to the UK police.
You need to speak either to Police Aviation Services, MacAlpine Helicopters, or Aeromega who are the main civilian contractors providing pilots to the UK police.