Cheese
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Cheese
I fully recognise the seriousness of this forum and was about to ask a question re. the impending Olympic games. However, it occured to me that more importantly, 'cheese' seldom features in these pages.
Does anyone have any advice re. the consumption of cheese and biscuits whilst flying eg what kinds of cheese, biscuits etc are favoured by rotary pilots ? Indeed, does anyone consume foodstuffs whilst flying, and how do they manage it ?
I expect, and deserve, a lot of abusive language.
Does anyone have any advice re. the consumption of cheese and biscuits whilst flying eg what kinds of cheese, biscuits etc are favoured by rotary pilots ? Indeed, does anyone consume foodstuffs whilst flying, and how do they manage it ?
I expect, and deserve, a lot of abusive language.
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From: Queensland Australia
Don't be so silly.
Everyone knows you shouldn't eat cheese and biscuits while flying. Especially not Brie or camembert or for the more refined person especially not pate, cos you need both hands to use those little blunt knives to spread it on the bikkies.
Me... I like meusli bars. But you have to get ones who packet can be ripped open with one hand and a good set of teeth!
Washed down with good ol' H2O in one of those bottles with the suck tops!
Everyone knows you shouldn't eat cheese and biscuits while flying. Especially not Brie or camembert or for the more refined person especially not pate, cos you need both hands to use those little blunt knives to spread it on the bikkies.
Me... I like meusli bars. But you have to get ones who packet can be ripped open with one hand and a good set of teeth!
Washed down with good ol' H2O in one of those bottles with the suck tops!
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From: up north (uk)
Loosely to do with cheese and flying... As a teenager I once threw a piece of stale edam down the garden and smashed a greenhouse window.
I'll bet no one else can boast of cheese-related vandalism. (Or, thinking about it, would want to.)
I'll bet no one else can boast of cheese-related vandalism. (Or, thinking about it, would want to.)
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Cheese dreams
BG,
I've told you about eating Danish Blue late at night but you obviously wouldn't listen
Having a little snackette in some of the larger helicopters is fine but you ain't gonna do it with a PPL and a R22/S300/F280/B47 etc. You don't take your limbs off the controls for anything more than a few seconds!
Also, imagine you have a monthful of, say, Wensleydale and ATC want to talk to you. Now talking with your mouth full isn't very polite and you might get crumbs over your mouthpiece.
If you can't go for more than hour without cheese then please seek help
Cheers
W
I've told you about eating Danish Blue late at night but you obviously wouldn't listen
Having a little snackette in some of the larger helicopters is fine but you ain't gonna do it with a PPL and a R22/S300/F280/B47 etc. You don't take your limbs off the controls for anything more than a few seconds!
Also, imagine you have a monthful of, say, Wensleydale and ATC want to talk to you. Now talking with your mouth full isn't very polite and you might get crumbs over your mouthpiece.
If you can't go for more than hour without cheese then please seek help
Cheers
W
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Dear Whirley,
You're absolutely correct. I eat blue cheese and then have dreams of being a nice, correct pilot who earns a reasonable crust, never makes mistakes and when he does, never makes them again.
I'm wondering if cheese should be banned. It seems quite dangerous, especially with a smorgasborg, if that's how you spell it. Do smoked meats lessen the danger ?
BG
You're absolutely correct. I eat blue cheese and then have dreams of being a nice, correct pilot who earns a reasonable crust, never makes mistakes and when he does, never makes them again.
I'm wondering if cheese should be banned. It seems quite dangerous, especially with a smorgasborg, if that's how you spell it. Do smoked meats lessen the danger ?
BG
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If you like flying and eating try instructing cause once you get the student past the hovering stage you can leave them to it and eat what you like. leaving the door off is also an option should you spy your CFI and need to get rid of the evidence, and back to cheese I prefer to have a bottle of red wine to hand as well as this smooths out the vibrations in helis like the R22.
PS only joking..................... nothing smooths out an R22
PS only joking..................... nothing smooths out an R22
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From: Just over there....no there.
I got caught eating an apple by ATC once, bloody silly question he asked me aswell.
I think a nice tupperware bowl full of Cheddar chunks is good, doesn't crumble like Cheshire and doesn't melt either at 35°C in the cockpit. I quite like St.Agur aswell but I would only eat that in a 205 (more room for the fresh crusty baguette).
I think a nice tupperware bowl full of Cheddar chunks is good, doesn't crumble like Cheshire and doesn't melt either at 35°C in the cockpit. I quite like St.Agur aswell but I would only eat that in a 205 (more room for the fresh crusty baguette).
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From: The home of Dudley Dooright-Where the lead dog is the only one that gets a change of scenery.
Cheese, who was eating cheese?
Eating cheese in a closed cockpit is one thing but cutting the cheese in a closed cockpit is totally another thing.
Which one is guilty?
Which one is guilty?
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From: Gold Coast, Australia
Hmmm, shades of North Sea lunches: the best (worst?) was a full plate of rice & curry, straight out of the window of the 212 once safely airborne
Irish rig support smoked salmon sarnies. More salmon than bread 
Cheese and bikkies? Soft crackers would be too crumbly (crumbs in the flight suit, yuk), hard biscuits a tad difficult with only one hand. Cheddar leaves a residue on the survival knife, Brie doesn't get soft enough at this time of the year ( -5C today in the snow.....).
Obviously Cheshire and a suitably crusty piece of bread for the refined aviator
Irish rig support smoked salmon sarnies. More salmon than bread
Cheese and bikkies? Soft crackers would be too crumbly (crumbs in the flight suit, yuk), hard biscuits a tad difficult with only one hand. Cheddar leaves a residue on the survival knife, Brie doesn't get soft enough at this time of the year ( -5C today in the snow.....).
Obviously Cheshire and a suitably crusty piece of bread for the refined aviator
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Whirly, you obviously haven't learned to fly properly. One of the first things I learned to do, after hovering, was how to light a cigarette with 'gofer' matches while flying a TH55. It just requires frictioning the cyclic and throttle, and flying with your knees, while using both your hands for whatever is necessary. My instructor used to hover, take off, fly around the pattern and do an auto to the ground, then pick up and hover off to the side, while never touching the cyclic with his hands, and seldom the collective. I saw that it could be done, and had to learn for myself. If you can't fly with your knees, you're not using anywhere near all your capabilities - sometimes it's absolutely necessary, and if you don't practice first, you'll be behind the power curve when you need to.
As for cheese and crackers, we just get them out of the vending machine. Standard pilot's lunch over here. I prefer peanut butter, though.
If you can't fly with your knees, you're not using anywhere near all your capabilities - sometimes it's absolutely necessary, and if you don't practice first, you'll be behind the power curve when you need to.As for cheese and crackers, we just get them out of the vending machine. Standard pilot's lunch over here. I prefer peanut butter, though.
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Thank you Gomer, but I can only just hover and talk at the moment
I once knew a chap who could roll a fag (cigarette to some of you!!) whilst driving his Triumph Spitfire round a roundabout by steering the car with his knees.
I will try and practice when my hours get into three figures!!!!
Cheers
Whirlygig
I once knew a chap who could roll a fag (cigarette to some of you!!) whilst driving his Triumph Spitfire round a roundabout by steering the car with his knees.
I will try and practice when my hours get into three figures!!!!
Cheers
Whirlygig
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From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK
Whirlygig,
You and I won't manage it however many hours we get; we're not tall enough! You need long legs if you're going to fly with your knees.
That's why I'll stick to eating muesli bars when I'm flying, and keep the cheese and wine on the ground.
You and I won't manage it however many hours we get; we're not tall enough! You need long legs if you're going to fly with your knees.
That's why I'll stick to eating muesli bars when I'm flying, and keep the cheese and wine on the ground.
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This really is top class advice. I'm especially impressed with the full plate of curry and rice despite any obvious connection to cheese. Were the popadums cheese flavoured or was it something in the chutney / naan bread ?
Some astonishing 'how did they do that ?' style tobacco stories too. Somebody will be saying next that they have managed to have meaningful sex in a heli. Still, it's all about pushing the boundaries.
Hugely impressed,
BG
Some astonishing 'how did they do that ?' style tobacco stories too. Somebody will be saying next that they have managed to have meaningful sex in a heli. Still, it's all about pushing the boundaries.
Hugely impressed,
BG
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
Whirlybird,
Sad but true. How about, though, I manage to fly that ol' Hughes with cyclic gripped betwixt calves?
Re - meaningful sex - I nearly had an episode just after my trial lesson, trying to get out of said Hughes and misjudged position of collective. Then fell out of the helicopter
Back to cheese - one problem is that most forms of cheese which are in easy-to-eat, packaged forms are 'orrible. Cheese Strings? What are THEY!?
Cheese
Whirlygig
PS - I don't know about Leading Seaman Edge - pray, tell
Sad but true. How about, though, I manage to fly that ol' Hughes with cyclic gripped betwixt calves?
Re - meaningful sex - I nearly had an episode just after my trial lesson, trying to get out of said Hughes and misjudged position of collective. Then fell out of the helicopter
Back to cheese - one problem is that most forms of cheese which are in easy-to-eat, packaged forms are 'orrible. Cheese Strings? What are THEY!?
Cheese
Whirlygig
PS - I don't know about Leading Seaman Edge - pray, tell