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Well, all i can say is that Australian Helicopters have chosen to be price leaders in that area. CHC were price leaders for a time as well, but had wonderful contracts that allowed for 'hidden' additions at an absolute premium.
But like all businesses, CHC have overheads that need to be met, and the Adelaide work should contribute to these overheads, maybe AH dont have the overheads, or, the need to show a return on investment yet.
But like all businesses, CHC have overheads that need to be met, and the Adelaide work should contribute to these overheads, maybe AH dont have the overheads, or, the need to show a return on investment yet.
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Well Vice Like, yes you are now out from under the rock.
There are names for people that betray trust, be that requested information or not, but I suspect my pathetic friend, you’re a loser that would not understand that some people actually may put faith in another so call professional.
I know full well, that no one will ever trust you again. You’re a pathetic individual.
I suspect the flaw in your character runs deep, very deep.
What an absolute embarrassing cretin you turned out to be.
There are names for people that betray trust, be that requested information or not, but I suspect my pathetic friend, you’re a loser that would not understand that some people actually may put faith in another so call professional.
I know full well, that no one will ever trust you again. You’re a pathetic individual.
I suspect the flaw in your character runs deep, very deep.
What an absolute embarrassing cretin you turned out to be.
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Vice Like,
As the previous posters have suggested, you are indeed an untrustworthy, bottom-dwelling, low life. And to top it off your malicious actions have probably weakened your argument – on second thoughts, please disregard my first sentence; you sir, are a DI@K...
As the previous posters have suggested, you are indeed an untrustworthy, bottom-dwelling, low life. And to top it off your malicious actions have probably weakened your argument – on second thoughts, please disregard my first sentence; you sir, are a DI@K...
Having had the opportunity to talk to some of those involved, Australian Helicopters deserve our support and congratulations on their achievements to date, and the award of their new contract.
They have negotiated (as did CHC) for about 3 years toward this outcome, and have won the contract fairly and innovatively. The equipment required was dictated by the client, leaving AH with start up costs way above those of the incumbent. To win against such odds, professionaly and "thinking outside the square", is to their credit, and to the benefit of the industry.
They have negotiated (as did CHC) for about 3 years toward this outcome, and have won the contract fairly and innovatively. The equipment required was dictated by the client, leaving AH with start up costs way above those of the incumbent. To win against such odds, professionaly and "thinking outside the square", is to their credit, and to the benefit of the industry.
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Thanks for the confidence John
John,
As a up and coming pilot in the game, I would like to thank you for the confidence your post gives some of us that there is some professionalism at the top end of the market.
Watching some of the comments that have been made over the last few months on issues like this one and the Wollongong situation, I was starting to loose some respect for the pilots that I should be looking up to for their advice and respect. It is comments like yours that still give me some hope that I have made the correct move in spending a load of money trying to advance my career so that I may one day fly up there in the top end of the market. 
Keep up the good work,
FF.
As a up and coming pilot in the game, I would like to thank you for the confidence your post gives some of us that there is some professionalism at the top end of the market.
Watching some of the comments that have been made over the last few months on issues like this one and the Wollongong situation, I was starting to loose some respect for the pilots that I should be looking up to for their advice and respect. It is comments like yours that still give me some hope that I have made the correct move in spending a
load of money trying to advance my career so that I may one day fly up there in the top end of the market. Keep up the good work,
FF.
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FF,
You mention that you are loosing respect for the pilots in higher jobs due to the recent posts. I cannot speak about the present topic but I can give some insight into the Wollongong situation that you mentioned.
To my understanding only about 5% of the posts on the Wollongong site where done by CASA licenced people the rest where done by non aviators with little understanding of the industry. They where there to make a point and try and muddy aviation and bring it down to the same level as the warfs, due to the union involvement.
The professional aviators made very little comment because it was so obvious to the trained eye how stupid the comments where.
Unfortunately, as a new comer to aviation it is hard for you to differentiate between fact and fiction. It becomes harder still when people can hide behind an alias and write whatever crap they like.
My suggestion to you is that you keep your head down and progress through the industry, one day you could be in a position where you are able to give advise to the new generation.
You mention that you are loosing respect for the pilots in higher jobs due to the recent posts. I cannot speak about the present topic but I can give some insight into the Wollongong situation that you mentioned.
To my understanding only about 5% of the posts on the Wollongong site where done by CASA licenced people the rest where done by non aviators with little understanding of the industry. They where there to make a point and try and muddy aviation and bring it down to the same level as the warfs, due to the union involvement.
The professional aviators made very little comment because it was so obvious to the trained eye how stupid the comments where.
Unfortunately, as a new comer to aviation it is hard for you to differentiate between fact and fiction. It becomes harder still when people can hide behind an alias and write whatever crap they like.
My suggestion to you is that you keep your head down and progress through the industry, one day you could be in a position where you are able to give advise to the new generation.
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FF,
Oh my god, I've heard it all now. My poor disillusioned friend! Have you not noticed the name of this web site? Its a bit of an oxymoron really! What is professional about rumors? Wake up!This industry is rife with politics and back stabbing and no amount of sucking up to those who have been in it for longer than you will get you anything but a reputation for kissing butt!
Oh my god, I've heard it all now. My poor disillusioned friend! Have you not noticed the name of this web site? Its a bit of an oxymoron really! What is professional about rumors? Wake up!This industry is rife with politics and back stabbing and no amount of sucking up to those who have been in it for longer than you will get you anything but a reputation for kissing butt!
Full Flaps....
You can hang on every word of what Eacott says....he might be a bit scruffy....but he knows from whence he speaks. You can do a lot worse than listening to him. Hang around this place long enough and you will be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
You can hang on every word of what Eacott says....he might be a bit scruffy....but he knows from whence he speaks. You can do a lot worse than listening to him. Hang around this place long enough and you will be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
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Shlaaper,
It appears obvious to me that the doctor schlaaped you too hard at birth (or maybe not hard enough).
If I care to make a compliment to a fellow aviator on his\her professionalism either to their face or by any other means available, then it is just that "a compliment".
I may have only been a pilot for a limited amount of time, but I've been in the industry for enough years to have a very good idea of the types of people that frequent it, and with comments like yours, you "my friend" are exactly the type of person that I have avioded. Your probably the one standing out the front telling all the other pilots your war stories for the umpteenth time!
I know that the only thing that shall get me into the type of work that I have earmarked is study and hard work and maybe a little insider trading, but hey, thats the steps we take in life,eh? If I do happen to be in a position to work around high time pilots, then I only hope that it is their professionalism and knowledge that wears off onto me, not the back stabing and bitching that you talk about!
I do not and will not apoligise to you or anyone else for giving a compliment to anyone that I see fit!
End of story.......
Thanks for your comment SaSless
FF
It appears obvious to me that the doctor schlaaped you too hard at birth (or maybe not hard enough).
If I care to make a compliment to a fellow aviator on his\her professionalism either to their face or by any other means available, then it is just that "a compliment".
I may have only been a pilot for a limited amount of time, but I've been in the industry for enough years to have a very good idea of the types of people that frequent it, and with comments like yours, you "my friend" are exactly the type of person that I have avioded. Your probably the one standing out the front telling all the other pilots your war stories for the umpteenth time!
I know that the only thing that shall get me into the type of work that I have earmarked is study and hard work and maybe a little insider trading, but hey, thats the steps we take in life,eh? If I do happen to be in a position to work around high time pilots, then I only hope that it is their professionalism and knowledge that wears off onto me, not the back stabing and bitching that you talk about!
I do not and will not apoligise to you or anyone else for giving a compliment to anyone that I see fit!
End of story.......
Thanks for your comment SaSless
FF
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fulflaps.
Speaking of war stories, if you have been in the industry as long as you say you have, then you would of heard some interesting ones about your hero Sydney lounge discounter (JE)
ie. Low rider BK, Belly scraping S76, not to mention his fire fighting exploits!
Perhaps you should re think the people that you are sucking up to!
Speaking of war stories, if you have been in the industry as long as you say you have, then you would of heard some interesting ones about your hero Sydney lounge discounter (JE)
ie. Low rider BK, Belly scraping S76, not to mention his fire fighting exploits!
Perhaps you should re think the people that you are sucking up to!
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Ahh Full Flaps as your name suggests, you are surely operating at a reduced speed. You are right about one thing, in this industry you would be best to stay away from people like myself as reality appears to be but one of your issues!
Nite son, it seems, knows a little more about this industry than just what he has read in a text book. As for Aussie Helicopters my congratulations to them. Only time will tell if they can service the contract....
Nite son, it seems, knows a little more about this industry than just what he has read in a text book. As for Aussie Helicopters my congratulations to them. Only time will tell if they can service the contract....
Chook,
Yes, thanks
NSon,
Wow, you registered today just for that
Nothing secret about my mistakes in life, and I've never tried to pretend otherwise. I'd rather discuss such things so others can learn, than watch another make a fatal error one day. "Fire fighting exploits" puzzles me though: - and you forgot the wire strike
Yes, thanks
NSon,
Wow, you registered today just for that
Nothing secret about my mistakes in life, and I've never tried to pretend otherwise. I'd rather discuss such things so others can learn, than watch another make a fatal error one day. "Fire fighting exploits" puzzles me though: - and you forgot the wire strike
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The giant might just sit under a tree and wait to see what Australian Helicopters can or cant do.
It is yet to be seen what the wages and conditions they offer in the industry and then we can all see what we do or do not want to aspire to!
maybe it wont be long for the chocolate wheels and meat trays to hit the local pub at nights.
As for those up and coming who aspire to the best they need to remember we all need to keep wages , conditions and standards at the top of the list and help the industry stay together rather than another outfit just showing up and undermining it all again just so they can take over.
By the way did you all see channel seven news tonight where Careflight now have channel seven convinced that they are the only ones in Sydney who know how to do head trauma.
It seems they are the only ones carrying a doctor who can give blood? and it seems they have the most powerful chopper?
They also said they are the only ones who have one of those scoop stretchers. they are special you know!
So it seems every other operator in NSW has got it wrong?
Has anyone asked Westpac or SouthCare how they do it?
Or is the Careflight media machine just misappropriating more of the community funds with a fear campaign?
How can they afford one of those "most powerful" choppers when they couldnt keep their 412?
Keep smiling boys and girls.
The giant is just sitting in the shade for a while.
Dargs
It is yet to be seen what the wages and conditions they offer in the industry and then we can all see what we do or do not want to aspire to!
maybe it wont be long for the chocolate wheels and meat trays to hit the local pub at nights.
As for those up and coming who aspire to the best they need to remember we all need to keep wages , conditions and standards at the top of the list and help the industry stay together rather than another outfit just showing up and undermining it all again just so they can take over.
By the way did you all see channel seven news tonight where Careflight now have channel seven convinced that they are the only ones in Sydney who know how to do head trauma.
It seems they are the only ones carrying a doctor who can give blood? and it seems they have the most powerful chopper?
They also said they are the only ones who have one of those scoop stretchers. they are special you know!
So it seems every other operator in NSW has got it wrong?
Has anyone asked Westpac or SouthCare how they do it?
Or is the Careflight media machine just misappropriating more of the community funds with a fear campaign?
How can they afford one of those "most powerful" choppers when they couldnt keep their 412?
Keep smiling boys and girls.
The giant is just sitting in the shade for a while.
Dargs