Australia: Training, Licence Conversion, Job Prospects
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Are you referring to any overseas conversion to an Australian CPL(H)? Does that include CPL(H) conversions from NZ to Australia under the TTRMA?
Now there is an option guys might need to consider. Going to NZ to get CPL and then using the TTMRA system to convert to a CASA license. I'm not up to date with heli costings but compare cost of living between both countries and see what comes up. You'll get some good mountain flying in the South Island also.
Best to do CASA conversion whilst in Australia though, so a well earned stop over on the way home may be an option.
Now there is an option guys might need to consider. Going to NZ to get CPL and then using the TTMRA system to convert to a CASA license. I'm not up to date with heli costings but compare cost of living between both countries and see what comes up. You'll get some good mountain flying in the South Island also.
Best to do CASA conversion whilst in Australia though, so a well earned stop over on the way home may be an option.
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Wouldn't be the first time NZ is used as 'backdoor' to Australia.. (immigration in the past)
Yeah, so long sub-300 guys have ALL the NZ CPL reqs, which include LOOONG heli XC (did it in the US but likely won't need it now), 'mountain flying training' and sling load. If one doesn't have that, it'd be costly and not just couple hours flying before skills test and passing exam or two.
And no, NZ ain't really cheaper than OZ in terms of training rates. Not much at least, for foreigners comparing worldwide rates.
TTMRA can definitely be used and it's simple paperwork filing.
I looked at the CASA CPL conversion regs and nothing in there yet, for helicopter CPL, so no idea when myself and lelebebbel can add any new rumours/expectations.
Yeah, so long sub-300 guys have ALL the NZ CPL reqs, which include LOOONG heli XC (did it in the US but likely won't need it now), 'mountain flying training' and sling load. If one doesn't have that, it'd be costly and not just couple hours flying before skills test and passing exam or two.
And no, NZ ain't really cheaper than OZ in terms of training rates. Not much at least, for foreigners comparing worldwide rates.
TTMRA can definitely be used and it's simple paperwork filing.
I looked at the CASA CPL conversion regs and nothing in there yet, for helicopter CPL, so no idea when myself and lelebebbel can add any new rumours/expectations.
USA-Australia Licence conversion.
Hi all
I am not a helicopter pilot but I am a former aircrewman, current CPL (A) (Australia) and have completed CPL (H) subjects. I've also done some ab-initio helicopter training in Australia in the past.
I'm considering going to the US to complete a PPL (H) and converting it to a CASA licence on returning to Oz. Does anyone know if this would be a straight forward paper conversion or would there be additional requirements imposed?
Has anyone here done this before?
Cheers.
I am not a helicopter pilot but I am a former aircrewman, current CPL (A) (Australia) and have completed CPL (H) subjects. I've also done some ab-initio helicopter training in Australia in the past.
I'm considering going to the US to complete a PPL (H) and converting it to a CASA licence on returning to Oz. Does anyone know if this would be a straight forward paper conversion or would there be additional requirements imposed?
Has anyone here done this before?
Cheers.
It's all explained on the CASA webite here:
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Converting foreign licences
Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Converting foreign licences
Yes, I read that page, but it's very general information about what may or may not be required. What I'm after is information from someone who has actually done it and their experiences.
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Dodgy operator caboolture
Lately I have been looking for a school to complete my MECIR
and was referred to a school in caboolture, Avalon air services and so went and met with owner/instructor. While my first impression was he was a nice bloke and knew his stuff, after looking at the facilities and out of date equipment/jepps/and all legislation somewhat unsettled me. then after sitting for what seemed a long time listening to what was honest but a very unflattering background and professional history of the instructor.
I went with my gut and chose another school but a close friend of mine was not so lucky unfortunately being pressed to do what we all know not to do and leave a down payment on training (thousands). Since starting his training two days in he is very unimpressed with the level of training, delivery of the syllabus and outright professionalism of said instructor. Upon asking for his money back after riding a train for half the day, after the planes maintenance release had not been filled out correctly for what seemed to be ever, the instructors solicitor quickly dialled my friends phone number and informed him of the bad news(no such refund is available).
While I never left the ground with this instructor I cannot and will not comment on his ability to fly but the professionalism and presentation of this school was enough to send me running.
Just a tip for young players never pay upfront and always go with your gut.
and was referred to a school in caboolture, Avalon air services and so went and met with owner/instructor. While my first impression was he was a nice bloke and knew his stuff, after looking at the facilities and out of date equipment/jepps/and all legislation somewhat unsettled me. then after sitting for what seemed a long time listening to what was honest but a very unflattering background and professional history of the instructor.
I went with my gut and chose another school but a close friend of mine was not so lucky unfortunately being pressed to do what we all know not to do and leave a down payment on training (thousands). Since starting his training two days in he is very unimpressed with the level of training, delivery of the syllabus and outright professionalism of said instructor. Upon asking for his money back after riding a train for half the day, after the planes maintenance release had not been filled out correctly for what seemed to be ever, the instructors solicitor quickly dialled my friends phone number and informed him of the bad news(no such refund is available).
While I never left the ground with this instructor I cannot and will not comment on his ability to fly but the professionalism and presentation of this school was enough to send me running.
Just a tip for young players never pay upfront and always go with your gut.
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Hi guys.
Looking for job prospects in Australia. 6000h ALTP(H) India SE and ME turbines. IR. Offshore presently, but would like to restrict to 30-40 hours a month, for some family time. Would much appreciate some help and suggestions. Thanks
Looking for job prospects in Australia. 6000h ALTP(H) India SE and ME turbines. IR. Offshore presently, but would like to restrict to 30-40 hours a month, for some family time. Would much appreciate some help and suggestions. Thanks
You're not really endearing yourself with prospective employers by limiting yourself to 30-40 hours per month so you can get more family time. But the stark reality is, no work visa pretty much totally closes the door for you working in Australia.
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RotorKraft,
Not sure if you can get PM privilege as it's your first post...but happy to be corrected.
Rotorwhip...as well as the work visa, this is the competition at the moment. Too many very experienced pilots looking for work down under currently. If you're single with no family ties and happy to locate to the middle of nowhere...and there are lots of those...then it pays to be flexible. Even the co-pilot positions now are requiring multi engine time. The air ambulance is going the AW139 route with SPIFR and NVG rating.
Good luck, but please don't under estimate the Aussie market at the moment, it's shrinking.
Not sure if you can get PM privilege as it's your first post...but happy to be corrected.
Rotorwhip...as well as the work visa, this is the competition at the moment. Too many very experienced pilots looking for work down under currently. If you're single with no family ties and happy to locate to the middle of nowhere...and there are lots of those...then it pays to be flexible. Even the co-pilot positions now are requiring multi engine time. The air ambulance is going the AW139 route with SPIFR and NVG rating.
Good luck, but please don't under estimate the Aussie market at the moment, it's shrinking.
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Thanks for the update Frying pan,bigglesb and Guillibell. May need to convert licence to JAR/FAA ALTP to begin with.Eyesight my current location is India,but OK with relocation to Australia with family. Have friends in Melbourne and a few other places
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http://www.news.com.au/national/poli...2a3e11dd8bc87f
180 job categories have been removed from the approved occupations for work visa list, including pilots, helicopter pilots, aircraft maintenance engineers, flight attendants, etc etc. Can search any Australian news site for detailed information.
Here is the list of occupations who used to be able to get work visas, but now can't:
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/...ed-occupations
180 job categories have been removed from the approved occupations for work visa list, including pilots, helicopter pilots, aircraft maintenance engineers, flight attendants, etc etc. Can search any Australian news site for detailed information.
Here is the list of occupations who used to be able to get work visas, but now can't:
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/...ed-occupations
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...this 139 SFI position possibly due to rumor that CASA is playing hardball with Esso, requiring all their pilots to attend simulator training every 6 months. It used to be the case, years ago, that only Esso Training Captains went to the simulator, and that was every 2 years. So however many pilots they have (30-ish??), times twice per year, adds up to a big dollar big customer requirement. Guessing that introduction of AW139 into their fleet is becoming eye-wateringly expensive for them, with 4 new aircraft, new contractor SAR requirement, contractor AW139 pilots, additional sim training requirement, etc etc. All that adds up to many barrels of Bass Strait crude to pay for it.
....and Hevilift PNG are also looking for AW139 pilots. Good luck with that, operating AW139 in PNG. I'm pretty sure that would be a first of type on the P2- register.
....and Hevilift PNG are also looking for AW139 pilots. Good luck with that, operating AW139 in PNG. I'm pretty sure that would be a first of type on the P2- register.
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