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Old 29th Aug 2013, 07:01
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I don't suppose it gets much closer than this!



Well done to all the air firefighters.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 19:36
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This may just top Madagascar as my favorite movie....we will have to wait and see:

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Old 31st Oct 2013, 16:37
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Meanwhile, China goes for the Michael Bay approach to firefighting...

Missiles could help firefighters put out high-rise blazes

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Old 4th Nov 2013, 10:19
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Blue Mountain Mayor says: Buy Skycranes

Blue Mountains mayor Mark Greenhill said the Skycranes had been ''a godsend'' in last month's bushfire crisis, when 200 homes were destroyed and has said ''we ought to own a sufficient amount to meet what seems to be an increasing threat.''

Fairfax Media understands it costs $1.5 million to hire one Skycrane for 12 weeks. The cost of buying one new is estimated at $30 million to $40 million.
Time to buy air-crane helicopters: Blue Mountains mayor
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Old 9th Apr 2014, 23:52
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Update on previous post....Lets all talk to the fire gods and ask for a slow day on July 18th...

New trailer....watch it full screen, sound up:

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Old 16th Dec 2014, 06:00
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CNN has picked up the story on the burnover save during the King Fire earlier this year.

You can watch the full story on CNN @ 9PM EST/PST Tuesday 16th.

Preview Here
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Old 16th Dec 2014, 08:30
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Shoulder harness - Optional?
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Old 16th Dec 2014, 10:09
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Shoulder harness - Optional?
Basically: yes!
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Old 16th Dec 2014, 18:06
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Shoulder harness - Optional?
14 CFR 91.105(b)(2)

(b) Each required flight crewmember of a U.S.-registered civil aircraft shall, during takeoff and landing, keep his or her shoulder harness fastened while at his or her assigned duty station. This paragraph does not apply if--
(1) The seat at the crewmember's station is not equipped with a shoulder harness; or
(2) The crewmember would be unable to perform required duties with the shoulder harness fastened.
Try long lining out the left seat wearing a standard shoulder harness.
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Old 16th Dec 2014, 22:35
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Mmmmm ...


...Try long lining out the left seat wearing a standard shoulder harness. ...


Then surely provision (2) would apply
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 00:47
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I think you'll find that's exactly what Gordy's arguing Spinwing.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 04:18
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Then surely provision (2) would apply
I thought I said that.....

Anyway, this is not about legalities, but about some guys on the ground who are just as important as us in the air, the "team" came together this day and it ended well for once.
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Old 20th Jul 2015, 04:02
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Please do not fly drones near fires.......

Drones Delay Emergency Crews Battling Wildfires in Southern California Video - ABC News

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Old 20th Jul 2015, 11:16
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And please do not start fires with drones...

Remote control helicopter sparks 30-acre fire

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Old 26th Aug 2015, 00:41
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Figured I would post a few pics of my adventures in the last 5 weeks.... (Just got home for few days off):

The Lowell Fire outside of Lake Tahoe, one of my Hueys doing a spot drop:



All coming back to base for the night---we had 15 helicopters on this fire ranging from a Jet Ranger all the way upto a Crane and EVERYthing in between:



Clearly NOT tomato plants:



They do give us good lunche sacks though:



This was on the Frog Fire on the Modoc National Forest. One firefighter died fighting this one, (RIP Dave Ruhl), You can see a tanker about to drop here:



I then went to the Gasquet Complex in the Redwood National Forest System:



Here is why California is having so many problems---you can see the effecct of the drought here:


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Old 26th Aug 2015, 00:50
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And I just left Washington State and the Carpenter Road Fire:

Carpenter Road Fire Info



Flying out from Helibase in tandem... Spot the Drone.... (There is none that I know of, but could you tell 100%?)



Inbound to my dip site:



Headed for the drop....spots everywhere:



Off the drop---I know there is an escape route here somewhere:



Headed back to main base in the evening---the whole of the State is blanketed in smoke reducing visibility....I-pads help:

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Old 31st Aug 2016, 12:10
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Not to be outdone by China, Boeing proposes 'fire mission' using 155mm howitzers, claiming such barrages will be "more efficient and flexible than dropping the retardant from airplanes or helicopters":

Boeing suggests new weapon in fighting wildfires



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Old 5th Sep 2016, 17:07
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Maneuvering artillery pieces to get a shot at such areas would not be easy, either, he speculated
Why limit to ground artillery? Make shells up in calibres from 30mm up to 105mm, buy an Air-Force surplus AC-130 or two and load it up - orbit the fire, blaze away (excuse the pun) with all weapons, sorted.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 18:53
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This whole concept is laughable. Do they realize how many of these it would take on a 1,000 acre fire. Besides, we basically line the fire and let the middle burn out.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 22:03
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I'm not sure that the entire concept is ridiculous, but would have certainly want to witness it in action to see if there is any meaningful effect. I've seen plenty of fires where the helicopter and fixed wing resources were pretty ineffective and almost irrelevant (to say the least) against massive fire complexes, where they could only offer limited resistance to an overwhelming onslaught of fire. We've all also seen plenty of times when there is no flying due to smoke, wind or other factors.

Twenty years ago, everyone laughed at the concept of fixed wing jets in the fire-fighting market and just look where we are today. Fire-fighting resources require a complete toolbox of tricks and resources, and I'm not sure that this one is without potential merit. It's been the staple resource of the oilfield firefighting business for decades.

Scientists test explosion method that could see wildfires stopped in their tracks | Daily Mail Online
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