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Old 5th Oct 2011, 12:41
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This is what I remember
Cold eng start
Mix control out, fuel shut of fully in, Fuel boost on, Mix control in 3\5 sec, Fule boost off, close throttle open 1\4 inch, Ign both, Crank, as soon as it fires mix control in (do not exceed 1600rpm),
Hot start Crank, no boost, Mixture control in when eng fires.
Flooded eng Ignition OFF, Throttle fully open Fuel boost OFF crank for 10\12 seconds then as for hot start.
Part of Pre Take off Check list.
Warning lights out
Fuel boost ON
Sufficient fuel (12 gal hr)
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 21:04
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Schweizer "high altitude" landings

Schweizer, due to it's limited power, is a great tool to learn power management at higher altitude landings.
But, to what stretches do you go (as an instructor) altitude wise?

Within the mass&hover chart limits, I personally don't feel comfortable with landings above 7.000 ft DA.
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Old 3rd Nov 2011, 22:55
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300C

I suggest getting a 300C version then. If you are power limited in a Schweizer then it must be a CB or CBi but the C model is more powerful by a noticeable amount.
Cannot think of another helicopter in it's class that would be better.
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Old 4th Nov 2011, 06:33
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It's a 300C version. My comparison about performance (limited power) according to the turbine counterparts.

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Old 4th Nov 2011, 23:39
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ah well then better get a skycrane
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 00:37
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Phoinix, summer days in Colorado flatlands are often above 8,000ft DA. We land our 300c's up to 10,000ft DA. Other copters in class that outperform? A turbo B47 or, of course, a turbo Enstrom 280 model. I regularly land our Enstrom 280fx above 12,000ft MSL. POH lists HIGE up to 13,600. Hard to beat the EN28 for high altitude piston performance. Direct operating costs comparable to the 300c.
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 16:46
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Thanks, I guess low rotor RPM horn with max. throttle is an ordinary occurrence after all.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 06:01
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If you cant fly your 300c at 7,000DA without low RPM warning horn, you need a new machine, some better training, a new hobby, or to lose a few hundred pounds. Lighten up, mate.
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Old 6th Nov 2011, 07:05
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Right... thanks for sharing.

There's no way of putting your experience before your ego is there 280?

Losing translational lift and starting a hover-IGE 30 cm of the ground, still air, full throttle causes LRPM horn until the engine catches some breath and gains the extra revs. 350 lbs of crew and 15 gallons of fuel. At 7.000DA we have alps, no flat airports to land on.

I'm asking because I only have one Schweizer, nothing to compare its performance to and I've had some rentals in the past, probably pulling too much from its beater.

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Old 7th Nov 2011, 05:28
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It's been some time when did the low RPM horn get installed in the 300 line?
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 11:18
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Auto engage system
Engine Ground Check
At the end of Engine Ground Check (PFM Para. 4-7) perform functional
check on main rotor low speed warning indicator as follows:
Verify Low Rotor Warning Light is "Steady On" for all RPM less than
390 Main rotor RPM. Horn should be silent, while on ground.
Verify Low Rotor Warning Light is "Flashing ON" for all RPM less
than 2530 engine RPM. Horn should be silent, while on ground.
Push horn disable momentary push button when light is "ON", to test
horn (only when weight on skids).
Verify that warning light is extinguished above 2530 engine RPM.
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 15:12
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Originally Posted by hillberg
It's been some time when did the low RPM horn get installed in the 300 line?
It's that big bell in your head, next to the one for high rpm, that goes off every time you hear the rpm change in your ears!!

Just changed from David Clarkes to Bose A20 - listening to the rpm takes a flight or three to get used to after the headset change with ANR; that being said I think the Bose makes it easier to hear.
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Old 7th Nov 2011, 19:16
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That's what I thought, Enstroms have an over boost light, Robies,Bell turbines,Hughes turbines & Europutters have the horns ,but the Bell 47,Hillers, Brantleys,and others not,What ever. Never needed one, (The Ears have it)
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Old 26th Nov 2011, 15:10
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Does anyone have a flight manual supplement for the 269c cargo racks. It would be greatly appreciated

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Old 26th Nov 2011, 20:30
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Actually, that would interest me as well as I recently bought a pair s/h.
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 07:23
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Schweizer/Sikorsky spare parts situation

Anybody else having problems with the supply for spare parts at Sikorsky/HSI?
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 17:42
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Sikorsky bought Schweizer for the UAVs they have no interest in the 300s therefore everyone is having problems gettings parts
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Old 17th Jan 2012, 17:44
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Quoted 246 days for a horizontal stab, 18 months for a main rotor drive shaft, no thats wrong they couldnt quote for a drive shaft as they have no one making them. Absolute joke. What do you need i have $ 600k worth of spares in the hangar medivac
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 07:37
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18 months for a main rotor drive shaft, no thats wrong they couldnt quote for a drive shaft as they have no one making them
<=== I'm with you on that one.
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Old 18th Jan 2012, 14:12
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