Holding Patterns Help

[JanBratislava]

Could someone advise me PLEASE how to draw entry to these holdings?
1) ATC: Hold over SLC VOR on radial 250° inbound, right turns. Im approach the station on radial 130° inbound SLC
2) ATC: Hold over SLC VOR course 250° inbound, right turns. Im flying track 130° to SLC

[sgenie]

1) Parallel entry
2) Direct entry

[de facto]

Ahoj Jan,

If you draw a needle facing 130 deg and use the OUTBOUND radial of the hold as reference.
The first 70deg to the RIGHT (as holding is Right hand turn) is the teardrop area(130-200) but 250 isnt in there.
The othe area following to the RIGHT is the Direct (200-060). Your outbound radial (R070) isnt in there.
The next area following to the RIGHT is the Parallel (060-130).Your outbound radial is in there.

So you need to join as a parallel entry.

[mustafagander]

Now make up your mind JB.
Are you tracking IB on R130 or are you tracking 130*M?
Holding IB on R250 means tracking 070 IB to the VOR.
Work out what you're trying to do then look up the AIP or similar publication for the rules.

[de facto]

Chill mustafa

[Notso Fantastic]

Strewth mustafa ! Jan gets his head bitten off but he has said it perfectly clearly ! And still got no answer of any sort from you.
The hold is inbound on the SLC 250 radial, right turns. In
1- he is on the 130 radial tracking course 310 in on QDM 310, and
2- he is on the 310 radial tracking course 130 in on QDM 130.

Quite simple, and less of the Oz rudeness to a perfectly legitimate question please. Now I've been out of the industry 7 years so I may be out of date, but my way of tackling this would have been:
1- overhead SLC, track out on 250 radial for appropriate time, left turn straight back to SLC then overhead again right turns holds
2- overhead SLC, straight into right turn holds.

[pilotmike]

Originally Posted by sgenie

1) Parallel entry
2) Direct entry

No, I don't agree. They are both parallel entries, unless I have missed something.

[Glamdring]

1) Parallel
2) Direct

Hold Calculator

[pilotmike]

Originally Posted by Glamdring

1) Parallel
2) Direct

Hold Calculator

It is a parallel entry for situation 2) , not a direct entry as you state. The hold calculator which you conveniently linked confirms this.

Inbound Course "course 250° inbound" : 250
Aircraft Heading "flying track 130° to SLC": 130
Answer: Parallel.

Situation 1) was also Parallel:

Inbound Course "on radial 250° inbound": 70 degrees
Aircraft Heading "on radial 130° inbound": 310degrees
Answer: Parallel

[Glamdring]

Originally Posted by pilotmike

It is a parallel entry for situation 2) , not a direct entry as you state. The hold calculator which you conveniently linked confirms this.

Inbound Course "course 250° inbound" : 250
Aircraft Heading "flying track 130° to SLC": 130
Answer: Parallel.

Situation 1) was also Parallel:

Inbound Course "on radial 250° inbound": 70 degrees
Aircraft Heading "on radial 130° inbound": 310degrees
Answer: Parallel

Yep, I missed the fact that one was a radial and one was an inbound course.

Parallel for both.