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Old 21st Dec 2014, 20:52
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Your text you are quoting is dealing with ambulance flight... i.e. flights where the passenger was ill and a risk is being taken transporting him or her from the start of the flight. The text you are quoting is just saying that such flights are being giver higher priority than regular flights. These flights are not in distress per se and equipped/staffed to handle the patient during flight.

An in-flight medical emergency, where a healthy passenger boarded the flight, but is experiencing medial problem during the flight is, however, an emergency.

ICAO Annex 2 Rules of the air:
3.6.2 Adherence to flight plan
3.6.2.1 Except as provided for in 3.6.2.2 and 3.6.2.4, an aircraft shall adhere to the current flight plan or the applicable portion of a current flight plan submitted for a controlled flight unless a request for a change has been made and clearance obtained from the appropriate air traffic control unit, or unless an emergency situation arises which necessitates immediate action by the aircraft, in which event as soon as circumstances permit, after such emergency authority is exercised, the appropriate air traffic services unit shall be notified of the action taken and that this action has been taken under emergency authority.
The potential death of another human being, in my opinion, warrants deviating from my clearance.

I can accept to land as no 2, behind the guys with the cabin fire, as the death of more human beings is worse than the death of one. But I am not waiting for the controller to do his routing radio transmissions. I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on that. My passenger hopefully lives to see another day. Yours?

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MAYDAY is according to my OM-A mandatory in case of a medical emergency. Of course the PIC deems when it's a medical incident and when it's a full blown emergency. A precautionary diversion, like the Austrian example above, is in my opinion definitely an emergency.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 20:56
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You text you are quoting is dealing with ambulance flight... i.e. flights where the passenger was ill and a risk is being taken transporting him or her from the start of the flight.
No, read the part underlined in that section. It covers dealing with verbal requests (i.e., in air) from scheduled air carriers.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 21:03
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No, read the part underlined in that section. It covers dealing with verbal (i.e., in air) requests from scheduled air carriers.
"scheduled air carriers" doing what??

Carrying a patient? Like a stretcher? Yes, turbulence is probably nasty for the guy with the broken leg, being transported home from skiing holiday. It would probably be great to get priority for the level where no turbulence was reported.

But it doesn't mention scheduled air carriers having an in-flight medical emergency.

Anyway, it's still just a local FAA document. Irrelevant to the rest of the world, no matter how it is interpreted.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 22:14
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WHAT A LOAD!

PILOT DECLARES EMERGENCY or uses word MAYDAY (3). PILOT may deviate from all rules as needed to take care of emergency.

ONCE upon the ground, he may have to explain things.

IF you have a passenger who is in medical need (not something like, oops, my finger nail broke on this can of soda) declare an emergency and get to where YOU decide ( you can consult with others)>

I declared a MEDICAL emergency, requested and rec'd vectors direct to airport and was made number one on the apch and for landing and had medical help waiting.

Granted if another plane had been overhead the airport with all engines out, we could easily have gone to another of the 4 runways. BUT IF AIR FORCE ONE was in our way, they would have gotten OUT of the way.


Some people are so into the regulations that they don't use common sense.

FLIGHT ATTENDANT: Captain, a little boy is dying and the doctor who happens to be on board says we must get him to a hospital ASAP.

CAPTAIN: Oh, tell the doctor and the little boy's parents that their situation does not qualify for a full blown emergency according to BITE MY SHORTS REGULATION .


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