RNP and ANP
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VOR and NDB
A VOR is a VHR omni range bearing navigation aid. It is a large piece of apparatus on the ground and looks a bit like a birthday cake design (with candles!). It is radiating a signal on each of 360 degrees so you can fly towards or away from it with accuracy, especially as they are usually colocated with distance measuring equipment (DME) to give you a bearing and range. An NDB is a relatively cheap piece of equipment and it can be strung from a tower and the line is sending out a signal in all directions, hence non directional beacon. This used to be used on airways as well as at terminals, but has been replaced largely by the more accurate VORs. Now it is still found at airports for locator beacons from which to start an approach, as well as still being used on some airways.
Last edited by Grasscarp; 19th August 2012 at 19:49.
Per Ardua ad Astraeus
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QUOTE=PPRune If you are a professional pilot or your work involves professional aviation please use this forum for questions. Enthusiasts, please use the 'Spectators Balcony' forum ./QUOTE
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BOAC
The OP later stated he/she was working on a B1.
"We have no idea what level of piloting knowledge your 'B1' licence give you and I feel we are wasting our time here with someone who cannot use a search engine.
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This person may be be better suited posting in the eng/tech forum. None the less YOU should be best suited to answer this question being a seasoned pilot. Sir, you wasted only your time in this response.. I might guide him to the tech/engeneer forum for possible information.
Hey this thread kicked me in the short and curlys as today I had a PDIS "lost Vref and predictive info". I am sure it was an awakening for these gents to fly this jet with this loss.
On my end we have no FMS training other than what we gather as a group and share.... PILOT information helps mutch. I for one have learned how to set up an FMS for flight, predictive data came up to 10k.
My point is, the more we get from you, the more we return in share and likewise. In the end you will see there is no high horse.
"We have no idea what level of piloting knowledge your 'B1' licence give you and I feel we are wasting our time here with someone who cannot use a search engine.
"This person may be be better suited posting in the eng/tech forum. None the less YOU should be best suited to answer this question being a seasoned pilot. Sir, you wasted only your time in this response.. I might guide him to the tech/engeneer forum for possible information.
Hey this thread kicked me in the short and curlys as today I had a PDIS "lost Vref and predictive info". I am sure it was an awakening for these gents to fly this jet with this loss.
On my end we have no FMS training other than what we gather as a group and share.... PILOT information helps mutch. I for one have learned how to set up an FMS for flight, predictive data came up to 10k.
My point is, the more we get from you, the more we return in share and likewise. In the end you will see there is no high horse.
Thread Starter
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Sigma! Take it easy BOAC, dont get your veins boiled up 
B1 is the Eng lisence NOT the flying. 
and why I am in the Professional Pilots section is go get my clarifications advised by professional pilots! NOT by sim pilots. You may ignore whatever the posts that feels like a waste! there are a quite a few of "Professional Pilots" that I can get my doubts clarified.
But thank you for you earlier posts and links!
And thank you Torque Tonight! thank you Grasscarp!
Thanks to all!
Code0
B1 is the Eng lisence NOT the flying. and why I am in the Professional Pilots section is go get my clarifications advised by professional pilots! NOT by sim pilots. You may ignore whatever the posts that feels like a waste! there are a quite a few of "Professional Pilots" that I can get my doubts clarified.
But thank you for you earlier posts and links!
And thank you Torque Tonight! thank you Grasscarp!
Thanks to all!
Code0
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The thread was moved into his forum by some moderator, no fault of the OP. It started in the techlog section which was more appropriate in my opinion.
I just wonder, do the engineering staff have access to the flight crew documentation? Something like the FCOM or OM B vol 3? That would explain most if not all of the original questions. Since I am used to them having that kind of access (its just the normal way of things in "my" company) I wrongly assumed the OP to be a flight simmer, as the questions were typical of the kind of basic stuff asked by simmers.
I just wonder, do the engineering staff have access to the flight crew documentation? Something like the FCOM or OM B vol 3? That would explain most if not all of the original questions. Since I am used to them having that kind of access (its just the normal way of things in "my" company) I wrongly assumed the OP to be a flight simmer, as the questions were typical of the kind of basic stuff asked by simmers.
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Maybe the Mods need to create a separate forum for flight sim questions so that what appear to be technical questions from new pilots are actually flight simmers coming to grips with what goes on in a cockpit. Its a bit like asking professional IT people "What's a mouse and how often should I change the paper in its cage?".
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LL, BOAC, all...
Concur!
No problem helping out the sim types, after all, procedures are run through a sim when developed, but the answers can certainly be much different than ops.
So yes, there should be a separate section, because a thread can lose the foundation of the original question.
A sim question clearly identified as such...
Concur!
No problem helping out the sim types, after all, procedures are run through a sim when developed, but the answers can certainly be much different than ops.
So yes, there should be a separate section, because a thread can lose the foundation of the original question.
A sim question clearly identified as such...
Last edited by FlightPathOBN; 22nd August 2012 at 16:49.
