Light aircraft @ EGLL
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From: Dubai
Just to clear this forum up once and for all.
The UK AIP amnd MATS part 2 state.
All light twin and single private aircraft (including military) will not be permitted to fly into Heathrow.
Ambulance and transplant flights are exempt.
It also says permission will be refused for Reacreational, charity and record breaking flights.
If you do wish to fly in prior permission must be obtained from the MD of HAL or in his absence the Ops management team. A slot will also be required from Airport Co Ordination Ltd.
So all you gys wanting to fly in just to get LHR in your log book i wouldnt bother asking because it will be NO.
Just think 400 pax on a B747 would spend a darn sight more money in our shops then a single pilot in a 2 stroke cessna.
ive got to look after my shares you know.
Happy flying elsewhere
The UK AIP amnd MATS part 2 state.
All light twin and single private aircraft (including military) will not be permitted to fly into Heathrow.
Ambulance and transplant flights are exempt.
It also says permission will be refused for Reacreational, charity and record breaking flights.
If you do wish to fly in prior permission must be obtained from the MD of HAL or in his absence the Ops management team. A slot will also be required from Airport Co Ordination Ltd.
So all you gys wanting to fly in just to get LHR in your log book i wouldnt bother asking because it will be NO.
Just think 400 pax on a B747 would spend a darn sight more money in our shops then a single pilot in a 2 stroke cessna.
ive got to look after my shares you know.
Happy flying elsewhere
Last edited by southern duel; 7th April 2002 at 11:42.
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From: Egcc
Southern Duel
I take it you mean private flights, ie non public transport because I can asure that I have flown in there in a 'two stroke Cessna' with 399 passengers less than your 747 and with the permission of the airport authority........and he never spent a penny in any of your shops!
Keep smiling,
PP
ps come and visit Manchester, the locals are a lot more friendly!
I take it you mean private flights, ie non public transport because I can asure that I have flown in there in a 'two stroke Cessna' with 399 passengers less than your 747 and with the permission of the airport authority........and he never spent a penny in any of your shops!
Keep smiling,
PP
ps come and visit Manchester, the locals are a lot more friendly!
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From: UK
Like Fl245 & P Pete, also been there many times in light twin on medevac flights.
Think the cost is about £350-£500 depending on whether peak time or not.
Bit of a buzz first time, EGll in logbook etc etc, now just a pleasure owing to the slickness and professionalism of ATC, they make it easy and are appreciative of the fact that you are usually single crew et al.
Much easier than many less busy airports who think they are busier.
Never had to go around or anyone behind me. (again due ATC)
Funny one Sunday morning, given priority to line up ahead of several 747's.
BA 747 told to line up after the departing Seneca.
'Line up after the WHAT?' was reply.
ATC: 'If you look left and down, theres a light twin prop, give way and line up after, ...you're obviously not a self improver!'
Had to giggle!
Anyways, hope this helps original Q...think you have to prove necessity to be there too...such as medical/organ transfer etc.
Regards
Think the cost is about £350-£500 depending on whether peak time or not.
Bit of a buzz first time, EGll in logbook etc etc, now just a pleasure owing to the slickness and professionalism of ATC, they make it easy and are appreciative of the fact that you are usually single crew et al.
Much easier than many less busy airports who think they are busier.
Never had to go around or anyone behind me. (again due ATC)
Funny one Sunday morning, given priority to line up ahead of several 747's.
BA 747 told to line up after the departing Seneca.
'Line up after the WHAT?' was reply.
ATC: 'If you look left and down, theres a light twin prop, give way and line up after, ...you're obviously not a self improver!'
Had to giggle!
Anyways, hope this helps original Q...think you have to prove necessity to be there too...such as medical/organ transfer etc.
Regards
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From: Egcc
Not quite Mr zippo,
I think you missed the fact that we have been in there on non-air ambulance flights with fee paying pax, no justification required, just get permission, pay the fees and follow the rules. I think the point that clears it up is that 'private' flights will not be accepted but public transport flights in piston twins will be (if you can get a slot!)
As for ambulance flights I always found them very accommodating, even during peak hours they would somehow find a way to squeeze us in.....fantastic. Used to get the spotters all excited as I recall; at one point an ops landrover came hurtling out '4-up' trying to find out where 'Papa-Zulu' was, poor spotters didn't realize we'd changed aircraft before departure due to a technical problem and thought they'd missed PZ on her inaugural EGLL flight!!
PP
I think you missed the fact that we have been in there on non-air ambulance flights with fee paying pax, no justification required, just get permission, pay the fees and follow the rules. I think the point that clears it up is that 'private' flights will not be accepted but public transport flights in piston twins will be (if you can get a slot!)
As for ambulance flights I always found them very accommodating, even during peak hours they would somehow find a way to squeeze us in.....fantastic. Used to get the spotters all excited as I recall; at one point an ops landrover came hurtling out '4-up' trying to find out where 'Papa-Zulu' was, poor spotters didn't realize we'd changed aircraft before departure due to a technical problem and thought they'd missed PZ on her inaugural EGLL flight!!
PP
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From: Asia
Pete
Remember the bird in the handling agent at LHR. She pulled up beside the Cessna 310 and looked surprised, she told us that she thought we were in a Citation Jet, not a piston twin !!
Catch up soon old chap, I am working my socks off at the moment ! Hope the new addition is well.
Fl245
Remember the bird in the handling agent at LHR. She pulled up beside the Cessna 310 and looked surprised, she told us that she thought we were in a Citation Jet, not a piston twin !!
Catch up soon old chap, I am working my socks off at the moment ! Hope the new addition is well.
Fl245
