Which is the hardest airport to land at?
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Thanks Oz and Herc. Yeah I am a bit vague but it has been quite a few years. I will do some more research and get back to you guys with just where this place is. It's bugging me now. I remember circling down in the valley next door and then flying up a river. We sighted the threshold only seconds before touchdown.
Yes I remember Fane well! Beautiful place. Nice vegies and a nice place for lunch - if you timed it right. Way back in the early 80's a Douglas Nomad took off out of there and it got real exciting real quick. This aircraft had the pre-mod engine cowls.Without getting too technical, the chin cowl had a spring loaded intake mouth wihich loaded against the compressor lip. It had a type of sponge rubber that could compress and expand to allow the removal and refit of the cowl. Well you know how often those prop boxes use to make metal and the chip plugs had to come out. The sponge got oil soaked and disbonded.
This particular aircraft had had copius amounts of Jet 11 leaked all over this sponge and just as the Nomad rotated off the end of the strip - BANG! The sponge let go and sucked down the compressor throat. The engine spooled back to idle and the Nomad "fell" off the end of Fane.
He picked up speed "on the way down" into the valley and took the scenic root back to Moresby out to the coast.
Nice job by the pilot in a ****-my-pants situation.
Yes I remember Fane well! Beautiful place. Nice vegies and a nice place for lunch - if you timed it right. Way back in the early 80's a Douglas Nomad took off out of there and it got real exciting real quick. This aircraft had the pre-mod engine cowls.Without getting too technical, the chin cowl had a spring loaded intake mouth wihich loaded against the compressor lip. It had a type of sponge rubber that could compress and expand to allow the removal and refit of the cowl. Well you know how often those prop boxes use to make metal and the chip plugs had to come out. The sponge got oil soaked and disbonded.
This particular aircraft had had copius amounts of Jet 11 leaked all over this sponge and just as the Nomad rotated off the end of the strip - BANG! The sponge let go and sucked down the compressor throat. The engine spooled back to idle and the Nomad "fell" off the end of Fane.
He picked up speed "on the way down" into the valley and took the scenic root back to Moresby out to the coast.
Nice job by the pilot in a ****-my-pants situation.
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LPMA/FNC rwy05 Madeira Island in Portugal, not a good one to land if the wx turns nasty, ie: wind.
Take a look at this:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/297683/M/
and
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/244795/M/
Regards
JC
Take a look at this:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/297683/M/
and
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/244795/M/
Regards
JC
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I don't know about airports in the Northern Hemisphere, But wellington airport in NZ would have to be the worst i've had the pleasure of operating into.
regular spar on turbulance and windshear and winds of 40 kts gusting 50 kts are common.
regular spar on turbulance and windshear and winds of 40 kts gusting 50 kts are common.
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Sumburgh (LSI) Past the lighthouse at 500' in a 45 degree left turn for 35.
Or the circle for 17 off the 09 ILS in poor wx (normal) and the downdraft from the high ground to the south.
Agree with Madira, Rhodos, Kerkira
How about Milas Bodrum in Turkey. V scary place especially in the event of EFATO.
Re. Take off bumpy runways how about Banjul (BJL) in Gambia. I know it's a Shuttle relief runway but it's bloody bumpy.
Or the circle for 17 off the 09 ILS in poor wx (normal) and the downdraft from the high ground to the south.
Agree with Madira, Rhodos, Kerkira
How about Milas Bodrum in Turkey. V scary place especially in the event of EFATO.
Re. Take off bumpy runways how about Banjul (BJL) in Gambia. I know it's a Shuttle relief runway but it's bloody bumpy.
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take a look at courchevel airport in france.
this is a airport, isn't it...... www.dangerous-airports.com/airports/I/lflj.htm
take a look at courchevel airport in france.
this is a airport, isn't it...... www.dangerous-airports.com/airports/I/lflj.htm
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My thoughts exactly Lima November Honingsvag certainly gets the attention as well as an number of other points on the Wideroe Finnmark network not just 'interesting' approaches to short runways but some pretty extreme conditions especially in the winter months. Those guys and gals at Wideroe have cojones that come in one size... XXXXL.
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hi,
1 of the hardest landings is got 2 be Innsbruk because ur right in the mountains and u turn for finals at 6000 thats the safe altitude. Any charter pilots who fly into it will now wot i mean.
very tricky
You need a special rating to land there overwise u cant do it. Your so close 2 the mountains its unbelivable.
Rob767
1 of the hardest landings is got 2 be Innsbruk because ur right in the mountains and u turn for finals at 6000 thats the safe altitude. Any charter pilots who fly into it will now wot i mean.
very tricky
You need a special rating to land there overwise u cant do it. Your so close 2 the mountains its unbelivable.
Rob767
Maybe Eagle, CO (EGE) is one of them. However, my company only lets the 757 into there because it has the climb capability with single-engine. By the way, based on the NTSB website, a chartered Learjet was sent there years ago and attempted a circling approach at night. Apparently, nobody told the crew about the very high mountains close by.
Our approach into runway 25, from somewhere Kremmling VOR, requires a sim session once per year and the approach is a sort of angled (FMC/VNAV only) LDA. You should see the paragraphs with tiny print which contain very exacting procedures for approach (25) and departure (7 or 25). How about in northern Italy, where some of you folks fly? Too bad that at Jackson Hole, Wy, the C-130 crew (carrying a truck for the Secret Service plus agent ) had those crappy NOS charts with no charted procedure to help show them, graphically, how to get out.
Some Captains avoid Eagle when they bid for their monthly schedules.
Tegucigalpa in Guatamala City has had many accidents. Never mind Quito, Ecuador.
What would Continental or American pilots say about Latin America?
Our approach into runway 25, from somewhere Kremmling VOR, requires a sim session once per year and the approach is a sort of angled (FMC/VNAV only) LDA. You should see the paragraphs with tiny print which contain very exacting procedures for approach (25) and departure (7 or 25). How about in northern Italy, where some of you folks fly? Too bad that at Jackson Hole, Wy, the C-130 crew (carrying a truck for the Secret Service plus agent ) had those crappy NOS charts with no charted procedure to help show them, graphically, how to get out.
Some Captains avoid Eagle when they bid for their monthly schedules.
Tegucigalpa in Guatamala City has had many accidents. Never mind Quito, Ecuador.
What would Continental or American pilots say about Latin America?
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Bluey West 1 is still there, its called Narsarsuaq BGBW/UAK.
The NDB-DME approach in minima weather is a challange, there is a lot of coastal refraction, so you have to know in wich direction to look, as the needle really is'nt pointing at the airfield.
Also, know you missed approach, or you WILL hit mountains.
There used to be a letdown proceedure, were you came below clouds 15 minutes flight from the field and then navigated thru the fjordsystem to the field. This was a dangerous maneuvre, as if you took a wrong turn, many of the fjords were so small that there was no way out again.
I forgot to tell you, nearest airport with a runwaylenght of more than 1000 meters is Sondrestromfjord and that is 432 NM away.
You may wan't to have fuel to go to Keflkavik that is 749 NM away.
All this really made it quite easy to fly there, in doubt no doubt, lots of fuel, offloading of pax and cargo.
Once I diverted from there, flying over the Inlandice towards Sondrestromfjord. We encountered severe icing, max continuos power and best ice speed gave us a descent of 300 fpm. We had to make a 90 degree turn towards the coast. Our unwilling descent stopped way below the height of the ice and mountains along the coast.
Those were the days
The NDB-DME approach in minima weather is a challange, there is a lot of coastal refraction, so you have to know in wich direction to look, as the needle really is'nt pointing at the airfield.
Also, know you missed approach, or you WILL hit mountains.
There used to be a letdown proceedure, were you came below clouds 15 minutes flight from the field and then navigated thru the fjordsystem to the field. This was a dangerous maneuvre, as if you took a wrong turn, many of the fjords were so small that there was no way out again.
I forgot to tell you, nearest airport with a runwaylenght of more than 1000 meters is Sondrestromfjord and that is 432 NM away.
You may wan't to have fuel to go to Keflkavik that is 749 NM away.
All this really made it quite easy to fly there, in doubt no doubt, lots of fuel, offloading of pax and cargo.
Once I diverted from there, flying over the Inlandice towards Sondrestromfjord. We encountered severe icing, max continuos power and best ice speed gave us a descent of 300 fpm. We had to make a 90 degree turn towards the coast. Our unwilling descent stopped way below the height of the ice and mountains along the coast.
Those were the days
