Flying Duty Hours and flying hours
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Flying Duty Hours and flying hours
Dear Folks,
The paperwork for my prospective new airline says a Flying Duty Period starts when one reports for duty until on-chocks after the final flight of the day.
Now, when you guys in the Terms and Endearment section talk of doing so many flying hours per month, how is this calculated? Like I believe one bloke working for BA said he did 750 'hours' per year.
Is this 'flying hours' calculated simply from off-chocks at beginning of first flight to on-chocks at the end of the day? Or is it calculated from Report time to on-chocks? Or are they merely treating 'flying hours' as 'duty hours' (i.e. Report in to report out).
Would just like to know how you guys calculate it.
The paperwork for my prospective new airline says a Flying Duty Period starts when one reports for duty until on-chocks after the final flight of the day.
Now, when you guys in the Terms and Endearment section talk of doing so many flying hours per month, how is this calculated? Like I believe one bloke working for BA said he did 750 'hours' per year.
Is this 'flying hours' calculated simply from off-chocks at beginning of first flight to on-chocks at the end of the day? Or is it calculated from Report time to on-chocks? Or are they merely treating 'flying hours' as 'duty hours' (i.e. Report in to report out).
Would just like to know how you guys calculate it.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
That would be his/her chock to chock time, that's what you put in your log book.
Duty is sign on, sign off time. (or slight variations).
I believe our flying duty finishes on chocks but we're allowed 30 min (or more if req) to "put the aeroplane to bed". Our rest starts at that time.
Need to read chapt 7 again..
Duty is sign on, sign off time. (or slight variations).
I believe our flying duty finishes on chocks but we're allowed 30 min (or more if req) to "put the aeroplane to bed". Our rest starts at that time.
Need to read chapt 7 again..
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And to answer your question the 750 'hours' per year is strictly block time.
It is brakes off to brakes on, added up over the course of a year.
Simple example:
9am - Check in
10am - Brakes off sector 1
11am - Brakes on sector 1
Midday - Brakes off sector 2
1pm - Brakes on sector 2
1.30pm - Check out
Total Duty time - 4 1/2 hours
Total Block time - 2 hours
It's the 2 hours / block time that slowly adds up to the 750+ hours per year.
Flight time limitations govern both the maximum duty and block times you are allowed to do over the course of 7 / 28 / 365 days etc.
It is brakes off to brakes on, added up over the course of a year.
Simple example:
9am - Check in
10am - Brakes off sector 1
11am - Brakes on sector 1
Midday - Brakes off sector 2
1pm - Brakes on sector 2
1.30pm - Check out
Total Duty time - 4 1/2 hours
Total Block time - 2 hours
It's the 2 hours / block time that slowly adds up to the 750+ hours per year.
Flight time limitations govern both the maximum duty and block times you are allowed to do over the course of 7 / 28 / 365 days etc.
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It's all very simple, MarkerInbound...the new guys are so thrilled with all the levers, dials, lights, switches, glowing screens, not to mention the babes offering up coffee/tea...so flight hours I expect might be their last thought.
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Let's not pull out the patronisation too early.
I was really just looking for the difference between flying duty period and flying hours, and what Ppruners meant by doing so many hours per year, duty or flying. That has now been explained. It may have been a little elementary, I know, but I know what a flying hour in my logbook is.
I dunno, these doddery old fellas, too busy criticising to read the question...
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I was really just looking for the difference between flying duty period and flying hours, and what Ppruners meant by doing so many hours per year, duty or flying. That has now been explained. It may have been a little elementary, I know, but I know what a flying hour in my logbook is.
I dunno, these doddery old fellas, too busy criticising to read the question...
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JB 5000.
Where do you work with duties like that. It sounds like heaven.
I've just done 1655 report, 0330 finish, 3 sectors 5hrs 40mins block time, 10hrs 35mins duty.
Still got a job though.
Happy days (nights)
Where do you work with duties like that. It sounds like heaven.
I've just done 1655 report, 0330 finish, 3 sectors 5hrs 40mins block time, 10hrs 35mins duty.
Still got a job though.
Happy days (nights)
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Hi CJ,
No, not BD and not a man.
No, not BD and not a man.
