What is it that make ground Engineers dislike Pilots ?

[gubaclagan]

Think

Let me add a little food for thought for those who made or making a living from this industry......"Now pilots are highly trained people, and wings are not easily won. But not the work of the maintenance man, our pilots would march with a gun. So when you see the mighty aircraft as they mark their way through the air, the greased-stained-man with a wrench in his hand - is the man who put him there!"
Have had several pilots (4 or 3 bars) encountered as if they have nine lives ass-uming they knew everything about flying. SOME look down at mechanics (engineers) as mere peanuts.
On the otherhand, THERE ARE pilots who can be as good socially and technically considering the mechanics as their partners in the field of aviation.
Have had more than 40 years in this field beginning as a greasy mechanic, maintenance supervisor, quality control assurance inspector, resident technical representative and a professional chief/check flight engineer - that's why I know the whole lot between a mechanic and a pilot! Happy Flying....
Den

[crotchrocket]

No no, you got it all wrong....Its not that they dislike pilots, they just dont like you!

[bcgallacher]

Good to hear from my old friend gublacagan - engineers dont hate aircrew in general only the arrogant ones who wont let us do our jobs or think they have more technical knowledge than us.I had one last year who had a minor problem with a 747 - when I informed him I had seen the same snag many times as I had been with 747s for 30 years he told me he didnt care how much experience I had. Found out later he had little time on 747.Some crews are magic to work with, they understand we are all in the same business and help us do our job - give us decent log descriptions of snags and are able to answer questions.Basically all we want is to be treated with the professional respect we deserve.Had one F/E give a 3 page write up about engine vibration and pylon overheat without managing to tell maintenance which engine and pylon.Its mainly attitude that pisses me off - had one young F/o call me a liar in public- only once!Have been on Hadj operations which were absolutely great fun because of the crew/maintenance relationship and been on others that were a nightmare because we had crews that were not suited to that kind of operation.
Just as an aside I am a happy man today - got my travel instructions to go back to work after 8 months off due cancer surgery - a good feeling.

[White Knight]

Well - I really like my spanner wielding grease monkey engineering colleagues 'cos they fix what I break Thanks fellahs..........

[Bus429]

I've met many good pilots and a few 'orrible pilots but the trend is not very different from every walk of life. (There is one pilot who does really grate...411something...)
As I have mentioned before, most pilots I know can't add (the hours and cycles) and are as tight as ducks' bottoms.

[Bus429]

I'm always wary of going out to dinner with them though and try and avoid it whenever possible after too many incidents of "ok who had the peas", and "I only had one poppadom so make sure to deduct the 12c off my share of the bill", while the F/E whips out his calculator to work it out to two places after the decimal ....

I rest my case; been there, seen it, been done

[TheGorrilla]

Ah, the only species on earth that goes looking for a filthier, cheaper bar and a dirtier curry house than me.... God bless 'em!