Where to find the UK jump seat ban rule?
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Where to find the UK jump seat ban rule?
Could anyone point me in the right direction as to where the ban for jump seat passengers within UK airspace is actually regulated? Thank you!
Is there any way to get a waiver from this rule? I am trying to get my sister on the jumpseat for a flight I operate to LHR next sunday.
Is there any way to get a waiver from this rule? I am trying to get my sister on the jumpseat for a flight I operate to LHR next sunday.
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Have a look at http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/7...trictions.html , quiet interesting reading.
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Pilots rage at end to wives' flight deck perk | Business | The Guardian
UK operators have a statement prohibiting the use of the jumseat (for other than approved persons) in their Part A's. This would not include a 'Jolly'.
UK operators have a statement prohibiting the use of the jumseat (for other than approved persons) in their Part A's. This would not include a 'Jolly'.
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professional exclusion . . . . . .
Aviation medicine is a branch of Occupation Medicine. In OM if a worker has a medical problem which relates to his working environment the occupational physician will usually accompany him to his place of work to evaluate and discuss the problem.
Some of my regular clients have known me for over 22 years now, so identity and intention are not really in doubt. But if one of them is concerned, for example, about the effect of 757 noise levels on his hearing . . . . . I can't assess for myself, like I always used to be able to.
Another worry (see another thread; started here, but has ended up in JB) is the effects of toxic fumes. It's passenger groups who make the most noise and fuss about this, but pilots (my clients) can be badly affected as well.
Some of my regular clients have known me for over 22 years now, so identity and intention are not really in doubt. But if one of them is concerned, for example, about the effect of 757 noise levels on his hearing . . . . . I can't assess for myself, like I always used to be able to.
Another worry (see another thread; started here, but has ended up in JB) is the effects of toxic fumes. It's passenger groups who make the most noise and fuss about this, but pilots (my clients) can be badly affected as well.
I believe the restriction only applies to the jump seat in the flight deck. There would be no problem for you or your sister if she occupied a spare cabin crew seat, whilst operating into or out of UK airspace.
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Yes flight deck jump seat not allowed. This may help.
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I am aware that the rule only applies to flight deck jumpseats. I have skimmed throught the old discussion but what I'd really want to read is the hard legal facts (i.e. the actual rule where it says I may not take anyone but an active crew member on the flight deck jump seat).
The whole thing is not about getting my sister somewhere but rather about her having (hopefully) a look at the city she likes from my place of work. The last time she has been on a flight deck with me was probably in a C182 well in the last millenium.
If the powers that be prohibit it, I shall have to accept it. There is little to add to the long 2002 thread on the sensibility of the regulation and I regret that we will most probably not be able to get rid of it in a lifetime.
As much as I admire the British for the down-to-earth way they run a very special and very efficient operation as LCY and allow flight ops 2000ft above the political and financial center of their country, I don't understand how they arrive at useless "blanket" solutions like the flight deck ban.
The whole thing is not about getting my sister somewhere but rather about her having (hopefully) a look at the city she likes from my place of work. The last time she has been on a flight deck with me was probably in a C182 well in the last millenium.
If the powers that be prohibit it, I shall have to accept it. There is little to add to the long 2002 thread on the sensibility of the regulation and I regret that we will most probably not be able to get rid of it in a lifetime.
As much as I admire the British for the down-to-earth way they run a very special and very efficient operation as LCY and allow flight ops 2000ft above the political and financial center of their country, I don't understand how they arrive at useless "blanket" solutions like the flight deck ban.
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My guess is it was probably a secure memo sent to airlines stating what they are to do/not do. Fact of the matter is you can't enforce this for foreign/private carriers which account for a lot of UK air travel. I've had two jumpseat landing into UK airports since 11/09/01 as a passenger.
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I work for a much maligned and criticised Irish loco and we have a sensible rule on jumpseating which basically allows anyone on a staff ticket accompanied by a staff member to occupy a flight deck jump seat.
