Logbook Entries

[Pin Head]

Is there a preferred/recommended way for logbook entries. Currently all in Zulu but depending on where you are in the world the date you actually flied does not match up with the zulu timing! (if that makes any sense????)

What do you use?

[Maz11]

The date you did the flight will match with the zulu timing, Zulu is the time (and date) at 0 degrees Longitude, or the Greenwich Meridian. It may not match up with the local date. I believe all logbook entries should be made in zulu time/date, could be wrong though.

Hope this helps

[Bealzebub]

It is not really that important. Ideally all timings should be in GMT "Zulu", but if you use another time zone then either add it as a suffix to the entry, or if more practical just place a note at the top of the logbook page, "all timings are shown as Eastern standard time" , or whatever may be appropriate.

[Dent Collector]

Hi there
I have a fATPL and have recently been acting as Safety Pilot on medical flights on a Chieftain and was wondering if I can Log the hours and if so? What can I log them as?
Thanks

[5150]

No chance Dent.

It's a single pilot aircraft

[Dent Collector]

I was thinking that because they are medical flights that require two pilots on board, then I should be able to log it somehow. It's my understanding that the flight couldn't go without two pilots.

[5150]

Maybe it's a customer request or the "airline's" SOP's to carry a safety pilot in the right hand seat, but in the eyes of the CAA it is still a single pilot operation and can only be logged as such. . . .

[RAFAT]

Pin Head - (from the notes at the front of my logbook) - Times should be recorded in Greenwich Mean Time (UTC) whenever possible, but if any other time is entered its relation to GMT/UTC should be clearly denoted by marking the particular entry as "summer time" or "zone Time".

Dent - In the ratings section of your licence you will see that you have an MEP (land) rating. Unless the rules have changed dramatically (which of course they may have) you are therefore licenced to act as Pilot in Command or Co-Pilot on Multi-Engine Piston aircraft <5,700kgs. Therefore, you can log the Chieftain time as P2/Co-Pilot.

[DB6]

RAFAT, nyet tovarich. In the UK the Chieftain is, as 5150 says, a single pilot aircraft, to which P2/co-pilot does not apply. There is a list of multi-pilot aircraft in LASORS section F; there are no Pipers.

[5150]

The Chieftan is a single-pilot aircraft - ie - it only requires one pilot.

You can't log co-pilot hours unless more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aeroplane or as required by JAR-OPS.

You're basically saying that you can sit in the right hand seat of a 152 and log that as P2!

[RAFAT]

OK I stand slightly corrected on the P2/Co-Pilot bit, but of course it could have been logged as such under para 3d of page 44 with prior arrangement.

Apart from that, it would appear that Dent can only log the time as SNY which counts as zilch. SNY time is surely reserved for someone without the appropriate licence, but as Dent has a Fzn ATPL he should be able to upgrade his role a little.