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Old 25th Apr 2006, 19:19
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Ryanair Exit Row Policy

I commute to and from Stansted quite often with Ryanair, as many of my duties finish or start there.
Recently I boarded one of their flights and sat in one of the overwing exit rows, in the aisle seat. I am not a Ryanair employee, but was in uniform as I had just come off a long night flight. Just before pushback, the senior cabin crew member asked me to move to another row because "...due to Ryanair policy, crew members are not allowed to sit at emergency exit rows...". The flight was pretty full and I offered to take off my jacket and epaulettes and put on a plain sweater. After some mumblings which I didn't understand, I was told that I could stay where I was but not to sit there again. I found it very unusual, as I considered having a crew member at an overwing exit an advantage in an emergency situation.
Can anyone verify to me that this is actual Ryanair policy, or was it a misunderstanding??
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That sounds extremely weird, as CC with easyJet, if I am operating as the Number 3 in the centre of the cabin, I am always pleased when positioning crew from ANY airline sit at the overwings. Reason being, that if we did hit the brown stuff, the positioning crew members would know whether it was safe to open the exits or not - something which a panicking pax might not watch out for.
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Old 25th Apr 2006, 21:15
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While we're on the subject, could somebody please tell me why the rear row is an Emergency Exit row on Ryanair?

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Nearest the rear exits????
 
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RYR pilots commuting home in uniform are not allowed to sit in the first row or at the overwing exits, because at this rows you have more space and they're 'reserved' for pax.
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Begging the obvious question:

Since when do RyanAir care about customer comfort?
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Originally Posted by mojito
RYR pilots commuting home in uniform are not allowed to sit in the first row or at the overwing exits, because at this rows you have more space and they're 'reserved' for pax.
Fair enough, but I'm not a RYR employee. I was a full fare paying pax, so I don't see why I should be treated any different.
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Originally Posted by INLAK
Fair enough, but I'm not a RYR employee. I was a full fare paying pax, so I don't see why I should be treated any different.
You should not be treated differently. The cabin crew obviously misinterpreted a rule intended to prevent Ryanair positioning crews from comandeering the best seats. If you are a paying customer you have as much right to choose your seat as the next customer. They probably mistook you for Ryanair staff.
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Old 29th Apr 2006, 16:06
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I was under the impression that row 1 on the '73 was actually narrower than the rest of the cabin & with a bulkhead ahead?
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Old 29th Apr 2006, 17:19
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Originally Posted by mojito
RYR pilots commuting home in uniform are not allowed to sit in the first row or at the overwing exits, because at this rows you have more space and they're 'reserved' for pax.
More space yes, but (heaven forbid) the unthinkable happen, I know who I would rather have sitting there. Passengers that end up in emergency seating really gives me the ****** sometimes.
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Exclamation

It's so easy to make fun comments when the post is about FR, isn't it....

To the problem: pilots working for FR, who show up at the gate in uniform, can possition for free between their home and base. No boarding pass is issued, as we are put on the load sheet as an extra crewmember.

Last summer, the Management in FR claimed that they had received a number of complaints (letters) from pax regarding crew sitting in one of the overwing exits or row #1.

Noone knows if the company ever have received any complaints, but this led to the company issuing a MEMO saying that possitioning crew in uniform were not to sit in these rows.

Most pilots, cc, and dispatchers don't care about this "rule" and we sit wherever we like anyway. And as stated on these pages; in an emergency, a crewmember is better to have there than pax.

But the company policy stayes the same.

For other people paying a "full" fare with FR, you can sit wherever you want, and there should be no surprise that the CC that tried to move you, was at best a bit eager!

Next time the same happens, show of your boarding pass and ID, that should give the poor girl a hint!

And why shouldn't the last row (31) be considered an emergency exit?? Is the leg room to small for that?
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Old 30th Apr 2006, 12:19
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Originally Posted by braking action poor
....Next time the same happens, show of your boarding pass and ID, that should give the poor girl a hint! ....
I showed my boarding pass and foreign ID card at the time, alas to no avail. Unfortunately wasn't a "she", but a "he". He seemed Spanish and there were language difficulties, even as far as the PA's being inaudible.
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Old 30th Apr 2006, 12:30
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Originally Posted by braking action poor

And why shouldn't the last row (31) be considered an emergency exit?? Is the leg room to small for that?
I can assure you that I am not 'FR bashing'. As not all airlines make the last row an emergency exit row, I am just interested to know the thinking behind it. The emergency rows in the centre of the cabin have emergency exits that need to be opened by the passengers, and then other passengers have to exit through this row. I can therefore see the logic in not allowing children to sit in these rows, and to ensure that there are no loose articles for people to trip over on their way out.
However the exits at the rear are through the galley and are well behind the rear row. Why then is a passenger in the window seat not allowed to have a coat on his knee, or a bag under the seat in front, whereas the passenger in the row in front is? Why are children not allowed in the rear row? Surely the cabin crew would have the doors open well before the passengers got out of their seats.

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Old 30th Apr 2006, 15:32
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At easyJet, seats C&D on the last row are considered to be restricted seats, like on row 1 and the overwings.

The reason for this is that in a pre-planned emergency, the passengers in these seats would be shown how to operate the doors in the galleys, so that they can get them open in the event of the cabin crew at the back being incapacitated. This is the reason why children are unable to sit on these particular seats.
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