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Old 17th Oct 2005, 07:01
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Question Boeing Push

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What does the term "boeing push" mean when talking about landing a boeing aircraft?
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I seem to remember someone telling me it was a landing technique on the 727. As the main gear is behind the CG (?), by gently pushing in the last few feet of the flare (probably more like reducing the back pressure), it rotates the aeroplane nose down around it's CG giving a softer main gear touchdown.

Only flown 737s and 777s myself so I've never actually done it.
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747's also occasionally need a bit of a push to help them settle.
(But maybe I'm just doing it wrong? )
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I came across it on the thread about aircraft flare.
It was mentioned by different posters so I thought it might be some obscure lingo!
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Googlewac - I have dug this out of the filng cabinet using 'search' FYI.
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While we're on the topic, can some one please tell me how many tricycle undercarriaged aircraft don't have the main wheels aft of the C of G?
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Ok, so I should have said "significantly".
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THe 'push' most certainly works on the 737 and the 747. It makes a big difference. You can get a totally smooth touchdown out of a good final approach, and often rescue a moderate arrival out of a poor final approach. The only thing is.....don't get it wrong! If you do it too early, you will make your landing harder than it would have been otherwise. Remember as well, you are thinking about pushing off drift at the same time, and keeping wings level, so rather a lot is going on altogether. Best kept until you are quite experienced on the aeroplane.
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Never used it on the 737 - don't think I was ever taught it in fact. The way to get a decent landing on that (the -200 at any rate) was to put the left (I think - long time ago) wheel down first to trigger the autobrakes followed by the right (may have been the other way round in fact) as it settled, then triggering the speedbrakes. Do it the other way round and it will drop on before the oleos have properly compressed. Could generally get a pretty decent arrival out of it. If you did it smoothly enough, the speedbrake switch wouldn't make and the other bloke would have to deploy it manually. Kept 'em awake!

Used to be able to balance a Mars bar on the radar screen buttons if you did that properly... very sad I know but we had to keep ourselves amused somehow.
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