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Hello All,
I was hoping someone could point me in the proper direction. I'm doing research on some Latin American Airlines and need to know if they have been placed on any of the European Airline Black lists. Where can I find a compilation of the different lists?
Help much appreciated,
Saludos,
Alfredo
I was hoping someone could point me in the proper direction. I'm doing research on some Latin American Airlines and need to know if they have been placed on any of the European Airline Black lists. Where can I find a compilation of the different lists?
Help much appreciated,
Saludos,
Alfredo
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Thanks for your reply,
I might have worded my question incorrectly.
I am aware that there is no European Black but know that the French one began with five airlines, the Belgian about a dozen or so....I would like to know if those lists have expanded at all or if they are still the same. Furthermore, are there any other countries that have published lists?
Thanks,
Alfredo
I might have worded my question incorrectly.
I am aware that there is no European Black but know that the French one began with five airlines, the Belgian about a dozen or so....I would like to know if those lists have expanded at all or if they are still the same. Furthermore, are there any other countries that have published lists?
Thanks,
Alfredo
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Very Funny about the Jurno alert.
No, I'm not a journalist, I'm a Pilot who is learning to find information on the internet. My boss asked for the information and I tought I could find help here...
We are being asked to reposition on a specific airline...someone said that that airline was on a european black list and he just wanted me to confirm...
Thanks...again.
No, I'm not a journalist, I'm a Pilot who is learning to find information on the internet. My boss asked for the information and I tought I could find help here...
We are being asked to reposition on a specific airline...someone said that that airline was on a european black list and he just wanted me to confirm...
Thanks...again.
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I see 'Phuket Airlines' on that list....... I take the BA2928 every Sunday night and have recently noticed an Air Phuket 747 in the same place by the tower each week. Is this a/c part of 'banned' fleet or is it summat else that just happens to be there every Sunday?
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The 747 has been there for 4 months after a well publicised number of incidents relating to its safety and the refusal of pax to fly on it. I should imagine the parking bill would make your eyes water.
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The French Newspaper 'Le Figaro' published this 'list' of suspect airlines on 30th August. Note that not all are on an official 'blacklist' and some are merely the the subject of the newspapers assessment of problem airlines.
Aerocondor (Portugal)
Flight Agen-Paris on only one engine. Aircraft Lithuanian sub-chartered by a Danish company.
Africa Lines (Central African Republic)
Belgian black list
Air Cairo (Egypt)
Emergency landing in Cairo in July 2004.
Air Koryo (North Korea)
French black list
Air Mauritanie (Mauritania)
British black list
Air Memphis (Egypt)
Belgian black list
Air Mozambique (Mozambique)
French black list
Air Saint-Thomas (The United States)
French black list
Air Universal (Sierra Leone)
British black list
Air Van Airlines (Arménie)
Belgian black list
Albanian Airlines (Albania)
British black list
Alexandair (Greece)
Flight prohibited by the Greek civil aviation during a flight Rennes-Roissy-Héraklion.
AMC Airlines (Egypt)
Many technical problems on a MD 82 on the return trip from Hurgada last July. The passengers refuse to embark.
Cameroon Airlines (Cameroun)
British black list
Central Air Express (democratic Republic of Congo)
Black lists Belgian and British
Dniprovia (Ukraine)
Swiss black list
Fly Air (Turkey)
Repeated incidents whose last one stranded 124 passengers in Roissy-CDG.
Girjet (Spain)
Swiss black list
Hemus Air (Bulgaria)
Swiss black list
I.C.T.T.P.W. (Libya)
Belgian black list
International Air Service (Liberia)
French black list
International Air Turns (Nigeria)
Belgian black list
Johnsons Air (Ghana)
Belgian black list
JR Executive (Lebanon)
Swiss black list
Karthago (Tunisia)
Technical problems on a sub charter (problem engine) of Fly Air on Orly-Djerba last week. The passengers refuse to embark.
Luxor Air (Egypt)
Overflight at low altitude of Nantes in March 2003.
Olympic Airlines (Greece)
Technical problems on a sub charter with Starjet, company of the United Arab Emirates. The plane, an old Lockheed Tristar, came from Sierra Leone, country whose civil aviation is dubious.
Onur Air (Turkey)
Temporarily prohibited last May by four European countries including France following many incidents in the Netherlands including a defective engine.
Phoenix Aviation (Kirghizstan)
British black list
Phuket Air (Thailand)
French black list
Premium Air Shuttle (Nigeria)
Swiss black list
Silk Way (Azerbaïdjan)
Swiss black list (freight)
Silverback Cargo Freighters (Rwanda)
Belgian black list
South Airlines (Ukraine)
Belgian black list
Star Air (Sierra Leone)
British black list
Tadjikistan Airlines (Tadjikistan)
British black list
Tuninter (Tunisia)
Double engine failure this month, due apparently to a human error.
Aerocondor (Portugal)
Flight Agen-Paris on only one engine. Aircraft Lithuanian sub-chartered by a Danish company.
Africa Lines (Central African Republic)
Belgian black list
Air Cairo (Egypt)
Emergency landing in Cairo in July 2004.
Air Koryo (North Korea)
French black list
Air Mauritanie (Mauritania)
British black list
Air Memphis (Egypt)
Belgian black list
Air Mozambique (Mozambique)
French black list
Air Saint-Thomas (The United States)
French black list
Air Universal (Sierra Leone)
British black list
Air Van Airlines (Arménie)
Belgian black list
Albanian Airlines (Albania)
British black list
Alexandair (Greece)
Flight prohibited by the Greek civil aviation during a flight Rennes-Roissy-Héraklion.
AMC Airlines (Egypt)
Many technical problems on a MD 82 on the return trip from Hurgada last July. The passengers refuse to embark.
Cameroon Airlines (Cameroun)
British black list
Central Air Express (democratic Republic of Congo)
Black lists Belgian and British
Dniprovia (Ukraine)
Swiss black list
Fly Air (Turkey)
Repeated incidents whose last one stranded 124 passengers in Roissy-CDG.
Girjet (Spain)
Swiss black list
Hemus Air (Bulgaria)
Swiss black list
I.C.T.T.P.W. (Libya)
Belgian black list
International Air Service (Liberia)
French black list
International Air Turns (Nigeria)
Belgian black list
Johnsons Air (Ghana)
Belgian black list
JR Executive (Lebanon)
Swiss black list
Karthago (Tunisia)
Technical problems on a sub charter (problem engine) of Fly Air on Orly-Djerba last week. The passengers refuse to embark.
Luxor Air (Egypt)
Overflight at low altitude of Nantes in March 2003.
Olympic Airlines (Greece)
Technical problems on a sub charter with Starjet, company of the United Arab Emirates. The plane, an old Lockheed Tristar, came from Sierra Leone, country whose civil aviation is dubious.
Onur Air (Turkey)
Temporarily prohibited last May by four European countries including France following many incidents in the Netherlands including a defective engine.
Phoenix Aviation (Kirghizstan)
British black list
Phuket Air (Thailand)
French black list
Premium Air Shuttle (Nigeria)
Swiss black list
Silk Way (Azerbaïdjan)
Swiss black list (freight)
Silverback Cargo Freighters (Rwanda)
Belgian black list
South Airlines (Ukraine)
Belgian black list
Star Air (Sierra Leone)
British black list
Tadjikistan Airlines (Tadjikistan)
British black list
Tuninter (Tunisia)
Double engine failure this month, due apparently to a human error.
mostly harmless
would it be possible to have a 'sticky' blacklist airlines thread? Perhaps the best place for it would be Airlines, Airports & Routes.
This is very useful information and pprune is perhaps the only place where info from many sources can be kept current.
This is very useful information and pprune is perhaps the only place where info from many sources can be kept current.
Can't speak for the accuracy of this journals' sources but Hemus Air are definately NOT on the Swiss list.Just had that reconfirmed by Swiss FOCA. No,I do not work for them nor do I have a vested interest.Other than accuracy.
The latest "Aviation Week & ST" reminded the readers that when a Birginair 757 (static ports covered with tape?) crashed in the Domenican Republic with German tourists, it was a "wet-lease", charter. The plane that crashed in Egypt with lots of French citizens onboard was in about '98.
How are people on a tour group, or with a travel club, to know who the airline is?
Won't the suspected extra discounts (from now on at problem carriers) invite fraud and misrepresentation?
Does the blacklist involve serious safety violations, or simply involve paperwork wich has no box to check off windshear training, i.e. the US FAA 'allegedly' sent a "hatchet man" to Kiwi Airlines, where he noticed that someone had noted by hand on each pilot's training form, not finding a printed box, that windshear sim. events were performed.
The FAA was so embarassed and desperate after the Valuejet crash, to find a small airline to pick on (easy small target), and could easily shutdown, thus earning adulation in the eyes of the ignorant, stupid, idiotic US media. The public perceived that the FAA was, after all, watching the truly important things, and could rest assured that US air travel was in good hands.
A buddy worked at KIWI, as 727 FE. Valuejet then was desperate to change its name, and suddenly bought Airtran Airlines. Poof-magic! No more Valuejet ("Ghettojet", called this by one of our FOs who worked there). Even some former Eastern scabs who were some of the first Valuejet Captains came out better. The Valujet which evacuated on a runway in Atlanta (08R?) , had its engines overhauled in Turkey. A compressor or turbine blade (or just a fragment of such shrapnel) went through the knee of the aft Flight Attendant. A little painful? But the airline made lot$ of money-until the Scab Captain in the Everglades became hors d' oevres for a beady-eyed, slimy alligator. 
How are people on a tour group, or with a travel club, to know who the airline is?
Won't the suspected extra discounts (from now on at problem carriers) invite fraud and misrepresentation?
Does the blacklist involve serious safety violations, or simply involve paperwork wich has no box to check off windshear training, i.e. the US FAA 'allegedly' sent a "hatchet man" to Kiwi Airlines, where he noticed that someone had noted by hand on each pilot's training form, not finding a printed box, that windshear sim. events were performed.
The FAA was so embarassed and desperate after the Valuejet crash, to find a small airline to pick on (easy small target), and could easily shutdown, thus earning adulation in the eyes of the ignorant, stupid, idiotic US media. The public perceived that the FAA was, after all, watching the truly important things, and could rest assured that US air travel was in good hands.
A buddy worked at KIWI, as 727 FE. Valuejet then was desperate to change its name, and suddenly bought Airtran Airlines. Poof-magic! No more Valuejet ("Ghettojet", called this by one of our FOs who worked there). Even some former Eastern scabs who were some of the first Valuejet Captains came out better. The Valujet which evacuated on a runway in Atlanta (08R?) , had its engines overhauled in Turkey. A compressor or turbine blade (or just a fragment of such shrapnel) went through the knee of the aft Flight Attendant. A little painful? But the airline made lot$ of money-until the Scab Captain in the Everglades became hors d' oevres for a beady-eyed, slimy alligator.
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ASN shows an A1 (A340 @ YYZ), an A2 and 2 I2 (all 3 Concorde) for the last 4 years with a total of 0 fatalities. Now that's pretty good for an airline with over half a million flights per year.