FAA 135 check-ride requirements
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FAA 135 check-ride requirements
need info,
a F/O with our company completed simulator training and 135 check-ride in April of 2004. In October we hired him and he recieved a company Indoc, differences training and a oral exam from the company check airman, but no check flight.
What is he due for, simulator or aircraft checkride,
or is he good until October 2005?
IF anyone has some answers, please post.
BM
a F/O with our company completed simulator training and 135 check-ride in April of 2004. In October we hired him and he recieved a company Indoc, differences training and a oral exam from the company check airman, but no check flight.
What is he due for, simulator or aircraft checkride,
or is he good until October 2005?
IF anyone has some answers, please post.
BM
B,
The SIC in part 135 ops requires a 135.293 check following required type specific training and all the same company ground training/checking as a PIC. The differences between PIC and SIC requirements are as follows.
1) A PIC requires a .299 (line check) every 12 calendar months while a SIC does not. This may be administered by a company check airman or FAA inspector. Part 142 TCs do not give .299s
2) A PIC requires a .297 check (instrument check) every 6 calendar months while a SIC does not. The .297 is the same checkride as a .293 for a PIC and may be substituted for the .293. If the PIC is to remain current in two types, .293/297 checks will alternate between the two types.(once per year for each type at intervals of six months. to maintain .297 (six month PIC instrument) currency. The SIC need only maintain 12 month .293 currency in type and company specific training currency.
3) The SIC flight checking requires only about 2/3 of the maneuvers that are required of a PIC. Both PIC and SIC training and checking may be performed either in the airplane or simulator. There are several disadvantages to using the airplane for all required training and checking. Insurance and safety audit firms both "encourage" operators to send their crews (including SICs) to simulator training annually.
So based upon the given information, your SIC is current for 12 calendar months fom the date of the last 135.293 check. The date of hire and company specific training is a seperate issue from the .293! Unless a new .293 SIC check has been accomplished subsequent to the April, 2004 check, this SICs .293 currency expired on May 31,2005. (late grace month) You must not allow this person to act as a required crewmember with this knowledge. I reccomend you quietly and discreetly bring this matter to the attention of your D.O. right away, as this may have been an oversight or misinterpretation of the regulation. If not, better start looking for a new job. Good luck!
I do hope this helps. Let me know what happens or if you require any further assistance. We 135 types have to help each other.
Best,
Westhawk
The SIC in part 135 ops requires a 135.293 check following required type specific training and all the same company ground training/checking as a PIC. The differences between PIC and SIC requirements are as follows.
1) A PIC requires a .299 (line check) every 12 calendar months while a SIC does not. This may be administered by a company check airman or FAA inspector. Part 142 TCs do not give .299s
2) A PIC requires a .297 check (instrument check) every 6 calendar months while a SIC does not. The .297 is the same checkride as a .293 for a PIC and may be substituted for the .293. If the PIC is to remain current in two types, .293/297 checks will alternate between the two types.(once per year for each type at intervals of six months. to maintain .297 (six month PIC instrument) currency. The SIC need only maintain 12 month .293 currency in type and company specific training currency.
3) The SIC flight checking requires only about 2/3 of the maneuvers that are required of a PIC. Both PIC and SIC training and checking may be performed either in the airplane or simulator. There are several disadvantages to using the airplane for all required training and checking. Insurance and safety audit firms both "encourage" operators to send their crews (including SICs) to simulator training annually.
So based upon the given information, your SIC is current for 12 calendar months fom the date of the last 135.293 check. The date of hire and company specific training is a seperate issue from the .293! Unless a new .293 SIC check has been accomplished subsequent to the April, 2004 check, this SICs .293 currency expired on May 31,2005. (late grace month) You must not allow this person to act as a required crewmember with this knowledge. I reccomend you quietly and discreetly bring this matter to the attention of your D.O. right away, as this may have been an oversight or misinterpretation of the regulation. If not, better start looking for a new job. Good luck!
I do hope this helps. Let me know what happens or if you require any further assistance. We 135 types have to help each other.
Best,
Westhawk
