Female Pilots!
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Female Pilots!
HIYA !
Just wondering if you know of any Female pilots, Captains, F/O's,
are they treated the same? does it make a difference to the male pilots out there sitting next to a female?
are there many out there?
if you are a female pilot reading this what do you think? are you treated equally in a male dominated environment?
E.T
Just wondering if you know of any Female pilots, Captains, F/O's,
are they treated the same? does it make a difference to the male pilots out there sitting next to a female?
are there many out there?
if you are a female pilot reading this what do you think? are you treated equally in a male dominated environment?
E.T
Well I've flown with quite a few, known more socially, and one one occasion was examined for a licence by a woman pilot - a very well regarded examiner.
I've never known it to be a problem amongst professionals, apart from the occasional (and justified) whinge that many airfields ladies toilet facilities leave something to be desired (they do for men too, but at-least we can usually use a hedge), and on landaway, you can't reasonably save money by sharing a room - which is a problem for the company accountants, not us (personally I'd rather have a room to myself anyway).
Occasionally you get somebody, usually new to aviation (usually either arrogant, male and over 50, or a young woman with an inferiority complex) who has a problem - but they learn quickly enough that age and sex are irrelevant so long as you can pass the medical and fit in the cockpit.
What I can't get my head around is why when women pilots are fairly common these days, lady Engineers are still so rare that when you meet one you tend to mark it in your diary.
G
I've never known it to be a problem amongst professionals, apart from the occasional (and justified) whinge that many airfields ladies toilet facilities leave something to be desired (they do for men too, but at-least we can usually use a hedge), and on landaway, you can't reasonably save money by sharing a room - which is a problem for the company accountants, not us (personally I'd rather have a room to myself anyway).
Occasionally you get somebody, usually new to aviation (usually either arrogant, male and over 50, or a young woman with an inferiority complex) who has a problem - but they learn quickly enough that age and sex are irrelevant so long as you can pass the medical and fit in the cockpit.
What I can't get my head around is why when women pilots are fairly common these days, lady Engineers are still so rare that when you meet one you tend to mark it in your diary.
G
PPRuNe Handmaiden
I just do my job.
For the vast majority of the time there's absolutely no problem. Very rarely I'll meet someone that has a thing about female pilots. It happens less and less these days.
What is more common is a negative reaction from passengers. Again, that is not 'that' common to make an issue. Far more common is a positive reaction.
What is annoying is the lack of toilet facilities.
For the vast majority of the time there's absolutely no problem. Very rarely I'll meet someone that has a thing about female pilots. It happens less and less these days.
What is more common is a negative reaction from passengers. Again, that is not 'that' common to make an issue. Far more common is a positive reaction.
What is annoying is the lack of toilet facilities.
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there is no angle
Hey Digitalis,
There is no angle to this, i was just wondering really, i did my dissertation on female pilots and just wanted opinions from you guys and girls! I am certainly no reporter too!!!!
Im a trainee female pilot myself. I havent come across any sexism or discrimination which is excellent. but i have heard of a few cases.
its just good to see that women are coming up in this world and there is no such thing as a mans job and a females job!!!!
society is changing and accepting this.
E.T
There is no angle to this, i was just wondering really, i did my dissertation on female pilots and just wanted opinions from you guys and girls! I am certainly no reporter too!!!!
Im a trainee female pilot myself. I havent come across any sexism or discrimination which is excellent. but i have heard of a few cases.
its just good to see that women are coming up in this world and there is no such thing as a mans job and a females job!!!!
society is changing and accepting this.
E.T
Very rarely I'll meet someone that has a thing about female pilots.
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Hello,
Yeah, our company has more than a few female pilots, various ages, and avrying amounts of experience (Capts/fO's) and are all very professional people. I can see no problems wether male or female.. each has to go through the same training and the same validations so all are equally well trained and all have great attitudes. I do however recall a recent incident where a female f/o was due to be positioning a leased aircraft home after a flight test. She was not rostered for the test but decided to go along for the ride anyway.... she duly put this down as a duty day without telling crew control. On return to base and awaiting her next duty she kindly informed the office that she had decided to roster herself on the test flight and would be out of hours for her next flight! After many problems and the subsequent flight departing late after trying to find a new f/o she was called into the office for a chat with the chief pilot where she duly burst into tears! The chief, then comforted her and politely asked her not to do it again..... what would have happened if it were a chap.... a abit more of a telling off i can assure you... and probabaly less tears!...... just for the record she's been a pain ever since.. always moaning about something or other, making changes to company manuals and adding copyright marks so we have to ask her permission to use them! All in ops/crewcontrol do hope she will be departing soon................ volountarily or un......
Yeah, our company has more than a few female pilots, various ages, and avrying amounts of experience (Capts/fO's) and are all very professional people. I can see no problems wether male or female.. each has to go through the same training and the same validations so all are equally well trained and all have great attitudes. I do however recall a recent incident where a female f/o was due to be positioning a leased aircraft home after a flight test. She was not rostered for the test but decided to go along for the ride anyway.... she duly put this down as a duty day without telling crew control. On return to base and awaiting her next duty she kindly informed the office that she had decided to roster herself on the test flight and would be out of hours for her next flight! After many problems and the subsequent flight departing late after trying to find a new f/o she was called into the office for a chat with the chief pilot where she duly burst into tears! The chief, then comforted her and politely asked her not to do it again..... what would have happened if it were a chap.... a abit more of a telling off i can assure you... and probabaly less tears!...... just for the record she's been a pain ever since.. always moaning about something or other, making changes to company manuals and adding copyright marks so we have to ask her permission to use them! All in ops/crewcontrol do hope she will be departing soon................ volountarily or un......
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I agree with you iko wapi choo!
women can put on there water works to get out of things which is wrong! and ure right what if it was a male......
women coming into the industry should be strong and deal with consequences and not take jokes or anything seriously!
I was the only female in my ATPL group and yes men do joke around and take the P*** but i mean u shouldnt take it to heart and let it mess with you.
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women can put on there water works to get out of things which is wrong! and ure right what if it was a male......
women coming into the industry should be strong and deal with consequences and not take jokes or anything seriously!
I was the only female in my ATPL group and yes men do joke around and take the P*** but i mean u shouldnt take it to heart and let it mess with you.
E.T
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Having worked for a company that had loads of female pilots, and now working for a company that has none, I have to say I liked flying with the girls (sorry, ladies) as they gave a different perspective on things. All very professional, I think there should be more in aviation 
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Witnessed something amusing recently "backseating" on a training flight. Middle-aged male instructor and 20-year old very, very attractive female student. We all strapped in and female student decided it was too warm, so removed her jumper to reveal the skimpiest top and loads of bare flesh. She flew well, but if she'd stalled it/spun it/nose-dived it into the ground the instructor would still have been sitting there dribbling and telling her she was wonderful.
Clever girl - she had him wrapped around her little finger and she knew it.
Some things will never change.
Clever girl - she had him wrapped around her little finger and she knew it.
Some things will never change.
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Well seeing as women hear non-stop about the only reason they pass flying exams etc is because of wearing a skimpy top or black bra under a white shirt, it should be no surprise that some think they might as well!
I've never done such a thing, and am quite happy to say I pass all my exams through such amazing raw talent(!) - it's a skill that we women have!
It's a great job to be in provided you can stick up for yourself and give as good as you get when it comes to sexist jokes etc.
I've never done such a thing, and am quite happy to say I pass all my exams through such amazing raw talent(!) - it's a skill that we women have!
It's a great job to be in provided you can stick up for yourself and give as good as you get when it comes to sexist jokes etc.
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making changes to company manuals and adding copyright marks so we have to ask her permission to use them!
Around here we have 1600 pilots and the male/female ratio is 100/0. Thats right, not one female pilot!
Mutt.
PS i should also add that women arent allowed to drive cars around here.
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Your only problem (you notice) is that it takes you one hour to get from A - B but three to park the aircraft? Perhaps some more parking lessons are required - or even, how is your reverse parking !!
Hi5
PS Mutt - no women drivers? How do you pass the time of day when there are no really talented drivers to watch
Your only problem (you notice) is that it takes you one hour to get from A - B but three to park the aircraft? Perhaps some more parking lessons are required - or even, how is your reverse parking !!
Hi5
PS Mutt - no women drivers? How do you pass the time of day when there are no really talented drivers to watch
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Mutt - ok, so you probably can't say on here, but would be interested to know where you work, then I can get my CV in!!!
Oh, and as far as parking goes, if it takes 3 hrs, just be thankful there aren't reverse parking spaces! Then you'd be in trouble!
Oh, and as far as parking goes, if it takes 3 hrs, just be thankful there aren't reverse parking spaces! Then you'd be in trouble!
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I've only met a few female pilots (all captains) at work so far, and I am pleased to say that they have been a pleasure to work with - unfailingly poilte and professional. Most of the guys are too, but there does seem to be a greater propensity for ####holes and plonkers in the male gene pool.
Of all the female student pilots I met during training, I would have to say the same. A good bunch of folks, with whom I'd be more than happy to fly. Only one oddball I can think of (not er82 though - how are you old girl?), but even then, not really that bad. Once again, all the plonkers were blokes.
Of all the female student pilots I met during training, I would have to say the same. A good bunch of folks, with whom I'd be more than happy to fly. Only one oddball I can think of (not er82 though - how are you old girl?), but even then, not really that bad. Once again, all the plonkers were blokes.