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What do CAE cadets do re: accomodation? Seem to be drawing blanks on this one…
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Originally Posted by Fraseradams1
(Post 11679078)
How long after stage 2 assessments did you hear back?
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Originally Posted by Jonnyratcliffe
(Post 11683004)
I heard back 2 days later, did the assessments on the Wednesday morning and got stage 3 invitations on the Friday lunchtime.
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Generation EasyJet training costs.
I am currently going through the interview process for the generation Easy Jet program. I don't know if this would be the correct place to ask but I'm thinking I might as well.
I understand the easyJet will provide a wage once you start training with them, but I am wondering about how the training with CAE works before that. Is it all onsite training before the fair weather flight school? Is costs/accommodation accounted for or would I have to find tha myself? If I have to find that myself, what would be a suitable means to find funding for that? And if so, what would be an estimated cost? Sorry guys if this isn't the right place to ask. |
Delays
Originally Posted by wt02
(Post 11630222)
Hi guys,
Just a little inside scoop on the EZY MPL. I’m at the end of phase 1, so this is still subject to change. For the core flight phase, CAE have now changed how they’re doing it. So the 2/3 courses ahead of me are now going to Spain for the core flight phase, which will massively reduce the hold pool waiting times in Phoenix. They are still sending my course, the 1 ahead, and the 1 behind to Phoenix, which they expect to have no or very minimal delay as a result of sending the few courses ahead to Spain. The MPL itself, personally, is a great prospect and becoming a much more validated way into the right seat, just as the integrated ATPL did a few decades ago. The conditional offer is just that, conditional. You have to achieve the correct standard throughout the course, which is a completely understandable requirement, in my opinion. Someone mentioned on this forum (I can’t remember who), that the MPL is a huge risk if the airline goes under, which is completely correct, as shown by the Monarch and FlyBe MPL schemes. Being aware of the financials of the airline that you’re applying to is a vital bit of information to base your decision on (easyJet has very little risk of going under, but it’s never 0 risk, nothing ever is). There is also a pilot liaison team who are in regular (minimum once a month) contact with each course, and are situated within the same building that we are doing the course in, and it’s heavily emphasised that you can go and chat to them whenever you like, especially if you’re having issues and want to directly talk to easyJet. No course is zero risk, what happens if you finish the end of the integrated/modular course and you don’t get employed? It’s all about finding out the course that is the most right for you, and the appeal of the easyJet MPL seemed right for me. If you would like any more information, my DMs are open. 😊 |
Originally Posted by Glock
(Post 11700967)
Currently an Easy MPL cadet, any questions feel free to PM
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Hello Everyone,
I hope this message finds you guys well. I have been trying to get into the EasyJet MPL Pilot course with CAE, and in the last few days, I received approval for the stage 2 assessment, meaning that I can move to stage 3. However, I have learned that for candidates excluding those from the UK, there are 130 people waiting for space in the stage 3 assessment. Does anyone know anything about this and if I will be able to get into any of the course dates presented for August, September, and December in Madrid and Brussels? I am very concerned about the uncertainty given at the moment and would appreciate any information or insights. Thanks for the help. |
Training (or lack of) in Malaga
Originally Posted by Aaron_07
(Post 11702971)
Planning to apply in a few weeks, whats the updates with delays? Talked with a brussels student who said CAE have started the Malaga thing. Is it helping?
Hi, I hate to bring you bad news, but I am on the first course who were sent out to Malaga mid-May this year. It is now August 10th and I have only just been scheduled my first two flights this coming week. We were told by both CAE and the easy liaison team that the first class would be prioritised, as it’s been so long since we finished groundschool (our last exam was 14th December 2023!). CAE have now turned around and told us that we will be sharing instructors equally with the other three classes out here, and have no sort of enhanced training plan in place to get us back on course for our sim phase in Milan, which was scheduled to start w/c 11th November. We have a class who finished groundschool 2 months ago scheduled to be only 4-6 weeks behind us, starting this coming Monday. With the current instructor number (4 including the CFI, so basically 3) and the projected progress of certification, there will be 7 instructors ready, to share between 74 cadets, come September, which is simply not feasible. These numbers currently allow for an absolute maximum of barely 2 flights each, per week. We fear that with no adjusted contingency training plan, we will be out in Malaga for the best part of a year, with the summer easyJet induction looking, more likely by the week, to be out of our grasp. Pretty much every cadet out here is filled with complete uncertainty and a lot of frustration and I myself and quite a few cadets are now seriously considering leaving and picking up ATPL training elsewhere. I will update you as things progress, but as it currently stands I see the setup of the Malaga base as a complete and utter failure and the treatment of the cadets from CAEs side has been absolutely horrendous. I will of course update on any progression, but from cancelled meetings with no communication, to blatant lies about what to expect, I have run out of words for how I can explain this situation. |
Originally Posted by smok3n
(Post 11708462)
Hello Everyone,
I hope this message finds you guys well. I have been trying to get into the EasyJet MPL Pilot course with CAE, and in the last few days, I received approval for the stage 2 assessment, meaning that I can move to stage 3. However, I have learned that for candidates excluding those from the UK, there are 130 people waiting for space in the stage 3 assessment. Does anyone know anything about this and if I will be able to get into any of the course dates presented for August, September, and December in Madrid and Brussels? I am very concerned about the uncertainty given at the moment and would appreciate any information or insights. Thanks for the help. If you pass Stage 3 you will have to start the course within one year from the assessment date. |
Originally Posted by Glock
(Post 11700967)
Currently an Easy MPL cadet, any questions feel free to PM
I have some questions to ask you. Can you DM me. as i'm new here i doesn't have the right to send DM. Thank you |
Originally Posted by NepoBaby001
(Post 11714388)
Just adding this to this thread, from another MPL thread I posted it in:
Hi, I hate to bring you bad news, but I am on the first course who were sent out to Malaga mid-May this year. It is now August 10th and I have only just been scheduled my first two flights this coming week. We were told by both CAE and the easy liaison team that the first class would be prioritised, as it’s been so long since we finished groundschool (our last exam was 14th December 2023!). CAE have now turned around and told us that we will be sharing instructors equally with the other three classes out here, and have no sort of enhanced training plan in place to get us back on course for our sim phase in Milan, which was scheduled to start w/c 11th November. We have a class who finished groundschool 2 months ago scheduled to be only 4-6 weeks behind us, starting this coming Monday. With the current instructor number (4 including the CFI, so basically 3) and the projected progress of certification, there will be 7 instructors ready, to share between 74 cadets, come September, which is simply not feasible. These numbers currently allow for an absolute maximum of barely 2 flights each, per week. We fear that with no adjusted contingency training plan, we will be out in Malaga for the best part of a year, with the summer easyJet induction looking, more likely by the week, to be out of our grasp. Pretty much every cadet out here is filled with complete uncertainty and a lot of frustration and I myself and quite a few cadets are now seriously considering leaving and picking up ATPL training elsewhere. I will update you as things progress, but as it currently stands I see the setup of the Malaga base as a complete and utter failure and the treatment of the cadets from CAEs side has been absolutely horrendous. I will of course update on any progression, but from cancelled meetings with no communication, to blatant lies about what to expect, I have run out of words for how I can explain this situation. Hi! Do you have an update on this situation (or in general "the situation") regarding the Easyjet MPL cadets? I see a lot of social media activity of students in Phoenix. Do students currently go there? Or are there different training locations? Keen to hear! |
Originally Posted by smok3n
(Post 11708462)
Hello Everyone,
I hope this message finds you guys well. I have been trying to get into the EasyJet MPL Pilot course with CAE, and in the last few days, I received approval for the stage 2 assessment, meaning that I can move to stage 3. However, I have learned that for candidates excluding those from the UK, there are 130 people waiting for space in the stage 3 assessment. Does anyone know anything about this and if I will be able to get into any of the course dates presented for August, September, and December in Madrid and Brussels? I am very concerned about the uncertainty given at the moment and would appreciate any information or insights. Thanks for the help. I have also passed phase 2 and I am waiting for dates to be opened to carry out phase 3 and be able to start in 2025. Greetings |
Hello,
Currently an EZY MPL, if that can help things are going the right way lately I think they've sorted a lot of issues internally, and the intakes proms are now back to a regular schedule. It has been a long wait for all of us also before joining the program, so I can rely with your frustration but hang in there! :ok: |
Originally Posted by TurbineTalks
(Post 11758971)
Hello,
Currently an EZY MPL, if that can help things are going the right way lately I think they've sorted a lot of issues internally, and the intakes proms are now back to a regular schedule. It has been a long wait for all of us also before joining the program, so I can rely with your frustration but hang in there! :ok: As a current cadet I can tell you things post ground school are DIRE. You have 80 cadets in Malaga who have been there for upwards of 5 months and haven't even solo'd yet, spending thousands of euros on accommodation. The CAA have just GROUNDED their entire fleet due to safety concerns and they have NO instrument rated instructors meaning if they do somehow make it to solo they have no means of completing their training. For those not aware solo is the first stage of 3 stages of training... So they are not even close to finishing! Phoenix is massively overloaded with a HUGE instructor shortage. Cadets are getting averages of 1 mission a week and were told they were 'lucky' to be seeing that. The advertised '18 month course' is taken in excess of 2.5 years. When Malaga eventually closes due to its unfeasibility where do you think those 80 cadets will go? And what do you think will happen to the cadets currently in ground school? ... Sounds like another hold pool to me! Don't forget us and our colleagues in the UK all took massive delays before going to Phoenix to allow them to 'fix the issues' only to arrive and it be in a worse position than before the hold pool. Help yourselves... don't listen to this guy/girl!! |
Originally Posted by TurbineTalks
(Post 11758971)
Hello,
Currently an EZY MPL, if that can help things are going the right way lately I think they've sorted a lot of issues internally, and the intakes proms are now back to a regular schedule. It has been a long wait for all of us also before joining the program, so I can rely with your frustration but hang in there! :ok: |
Originally Posted by Pilot.Mark
(Post 11759561)
You're either at the very start of your ground school and buying the CAE Propaganda or a CAE Employee trying to claw back some credibility to the scheme...
As a current cadet I can tell you things post ground school are DIRE. You have 80 cadets in Malaga who have been there for upwards of 5 months and haven't even solo'd yet, spending thousands of euros on accommodation. The CAA have just GROUNDED their entire fleet due to safety concerns and they have NO instrument rated instructors meaning if they do somehow make it to solo they have no means of completing their training. For those not aware solo is the first stage of 3 stages of training... So they are not even close to finishing! Phoenix is massively overloaded with a HUGE instructor shortage. Cadets are getting averages of 1 mission a week and were told they were 'lucky' to be seeing that. The advertised '18 month course' is taken in excess of 2.5 years. When Malaga eventually closes due to its unfeasibility where do you think those 80 cadets will go? And what do you think will happen to the cadets currently in ground school? ... Sounds like another hold pool to me! Don't forget us and our colleagues in the UK all took massive delays before going to Phoenix to allow them to 'fix the issues' only to arrive and it be in a worse position than before the hold pool. Help yourselves... don't listen to this guy/girl!! |
Thank you for the updates. What Is happening with the CAE integrated students? Are they facing the same issues?
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Originally Posted by POOR FO
(Post 11759805)
Thank you for the updates. What Is happening with the CAE integrated students? Are they facing the same issues?
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Update:
As predicted Malaga students are now being sent to Phoenix (I believe the first cadets have already arrived here). No Idea what they are going to do with them as they do not have the capacity to teach the current students let alone an additional 80 (more than all the cadets here already!) ATPL's were advised they would have to fly home for a number of weeks and return to complete their training later. |
Hi all,
I’m thinking of starting a course in September 2025, do you think the delays and backlog will have cleared by then ? |
Originally Posted by Fraseradams1
(Post 11762840)
Hi all,
I’m thinking of starting a course in September 2025, do you think the delays and backlog will have cleared by then ? |
For those in Malaga, wondering why there is no flying -Move to the next available course at FTE Jerez or even just go modular. At the moment, there is a pilot shortage in the airlines and with the correct calibre and licence you will succeed. Who knows what the situation will be in a few years time. Why an earth stay at CAE for more of this?
Who’s actually paying for this experience? |
CAE tell me everyone going to Phoenix now. You getting much flying over there now?
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Originally Posted by POOR FO
(Post 11769102)
CAE tell me everyone going to Phoenix now. You getting much flying over there now?
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Hello smok3n,
I cannot send you a private message since I'm new here, but I would like to know how's your application status. Were you called already? Thank you in advance :) |
Originally Posted by Glock
(Post 11700967)
Currently an Easy MPL cadet, any questions feel free to PM
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Update from an instructor at CAE
Hi all, I just wanted to post a quick update on the delays and how things have been changing. I can only speak to what is going on at the CAE Phoenix ATO.
CAE has restructured the EASA/UKCAA Instructor training program and called in all the help they can find in North America, while eliminating previous bottlenecks in the training process. Because of this, we have added 6 instructors fully qualified to teach ATPL and MPL cadets (myself included) in the F1 stage (Core 1 for EasyJet MPL cadets). 5 have been additionally upgraded to teach in the F2 stage of ATPL (Core 2 for EasyJet MPL Cadets). On top of this, we are expecting the 6 newest instructors to upgrade to F2 by February. Beyond that, there are 3-6 new F1 ATPL/MPL instructors will also be added by January or February. So to summarize, 9-12 total new instructors by February, and 6-9 upgrades by February. So what does this mean for cadets? Timelines are currently readjusting to what is expected. Things aren’t perfect by any means, but they are improving. My students in the ATPL syllabus who were previously delayed by up to 3 months from their expected completed date have been caught up to 1 month delay and that is rapidly approaching on timeline. EASA/UKCAA cadets appear to have priority at the moment regarding scheduling of resources, but this is anecdotal. A representative of EasyJet was spotted on campus a few weeks ago and was seemingly impressed with the changes made. Things are still not “fixed” but are actually improving for once. I suspect the newest class of MPL cadets in December 2025 will be the closest to on time finishers we have had in quite some time. |
Hi again, here comes another update - this time great news. Most Easyjet cadets are officially being completed on time, and perhaps even ahead of schedule. The group of students I was assigned to instruct beginning the last week of December 2025 will officially be finished with the Core Phase in the first week of June 2026. One even has 2 weeks to travel the US before their flight back to Europe.
We now have 34 active instructors, plus a few in training up to 37. There are also flight leads that can fly as needed here and there that can help, so we are up to about 40 in total. Timelines going forward for about the next year look to be on schedule for all cadets to finish on time. For expected timelines right now: Core 1 about 3-5 weeks, Core 2 about 10-13 weeks, and Core 3 is about 1 week on average. Just wanted to share good news for those who plan to come here to train in the neat future! |
Hi all, I'm here with another update!
CAE has officially finished Cadets on time! To put in perspective - I began a group of 3 EasyJet EASA cadets in December 2025. They finished Core 1 in 4 weeks, Core 2 in 12, and Core 3 in 1 week. They even have enough time to explore the US for about 2 weeks before they fly back home to Europe. As an example to show how fast you can go if the timing is perfect - a student that began in the first week of March 2026 is on pace to finish in the first week July 2026! The rest of his class had a 4 week delay due to administrative issues, but is still forecast to complete the last training flight the last week of August 2026, which is still ahead of the 7 months planned per the Training Manual. Things have changed quite a bit around here, with people in place who seem to truly care about making positive change for students. |
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