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Tubbs 9th January 2006 14:58

Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
 
What if you want to fly for the love of it and you're interested in a living wage and job satisfaction? There doesn't seem to be as much of this prospective type rating nonsense in the turboprop world. My mate has got himself a jet type to try and get himself a job and six months later still has jack !!!! from it. Why does spunking 40 grand 'by-pass the whole lot'? How can you bypass the HR department? This has been well and truly flogged to death, but I did feel compelled to respond to the drivel posted above. Was it a wind-up??

Edit: I happily paid for my Saab 340 type rating as the company is paying me the cash back over and above my salary (plus interest). Also, it wasn't prospective - it was part of a firm job offer.

scroggs 10th January 2006 08:27

Re: comments re PAN AM INT FLT A320 TYPE RATING
 
As the questioner is in the Philippines, and has a FAA CPL, he's unlikely to be needing a JAA TR!

Scroggs

hughesyd 10th January 2006 12:27

Re: comments re PAN AM INT FLT A320 TYPE RATING
 
if you actually bothered to look at the site, Pan Am training acadamy in Minneapolis are JAA approved for type ratings anyway!, as are RANDHEM Aviation in the states, for loads of different type ratings.

BillieBob 11th January 2006 07:06

Re: comments re PAN AM INT FLT A320 TYPE RATING
 
I realise that this is somewhat off-topic since the original question had nothing whatever to do with JAA training but, since hughesyd has posted clearly incorrect information it is probably worth clarifying the situation for those who are interested in JAA training.

Had hughesyd bothered to read the PanAm website before firing off his sarcastic response, he would have discovered that PAIFA are not approved to provide JAA initial type rating training. Some PAIFA simulators (e.g. CRJ & J41 at Dulles, RJ and J41 at Minneapolis, B757 at Miami but not the A320) are qualified under JAR-STD1A and some JAA companies (e.g. Maersk, ATD and BA) have user approvals for them. However, PAIFA cannot offer initial type ratings on any of their simulators.

Randhem hold a JAA TRTO approval issued by the Swedish Authority and dry-lease simulators from PAIFA. The two companies have a similar arrangement to AFT and DCA, and look what happened there!

So, the answer to the original question is 'No, nobody who has so far posted has attended PanAm in minneapolis for the A320 type rating'. Indeed, it is unlikely (although not impossible) that you will find anybody on this predominantly JAA-orientated website who has.

ant1 11th January 2006 21:11

Re: comments re PAN AM INT FLT A320 TYPE RATING
 
Hi BillieBob

So what's the conclusion ?

Can Randhem in the end provide initial TR on A320 and B737 or not?

Thanks

tanjo505 11th January 2006 23:39

Re: comments re PAN AM INT FLT A320 TYPE RATING
 
i appreciated all your comments guys...thanks..:ok:

dboy 13th January 2006 16:07

Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
 
Forget paying for your type and do as i do. Writing, writing and writing but no more investing in flying cause nobody will hire you because if have some extra 25 hours on 1 year.

grtz

dboy 13th January 2006 16:09

Re: Type ratings - yes or no?
 
correction:....because you did last year extra 15-25 hours.

grtz

nick p 20th January 2006 10:13

Type ratings
 
I'm sure this has been asked before but i'll ask just in case it hasn't, after a year of PFO letters i'm now considering doing a type rating to perhaps stand out a bit more, would it be a wise idea to persue this and if so, is it better to do a type rating on a TP or shiney jet?. I was going to ring the CAA to get a rivised list of TRTO's as i think their website is a little old.

Mr Wonka 20th January 2006 11:02

For what it is worth I think you should hang on in there. I am now,in 2006 just getting my first chance of a tp job, paid for by the company and bonding me for 2 years.

After 6 yes 6 years or koncking on doors and trying everything i could to stay current and chase the jobs here i am at last. So after 1 year and now thinking of just paying out more money, to speed things up, I think it is a little foolish. just keep going and trying, best of luck though it is tough, but who said it was ever easy?

For example see this thread and perhaps it might help


http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=207188

Mr Wonka

dboy 20th January 2006 12:45

Hey,

I agree with mr wonka. Just save your money!!! There is a chance you even don't find anything with your rating. But you have to keep in mind after 1 year you have to renew this rating. I guess this costs also a lot. I'm also applying for about 11 months without 1 interview. Ok i don't like it, and as a result of that i decided to spend no more money into flying but i keep writing. So hang on and good luck.

dboy

Charlie Zulu 20th January 2006 13:11

I have just found out (in the past couple of hours) that someone who is currently flying an ATR42 and paid for his B737 TR last year (without any line hours) has just been turned down by BMI Baby as he has a type rating with no hours.

They are currently taking people without a type rating though... (I'm a little bit late in qualifying again!).

sjm 21st January 2006 16:38

baby
 
Strange! i have 2500 hrs sep/light twin and a 737 rating no hours and they took me!

nick p 22nd January 2006 19:41

Thanks for all the replys and advice,if i do proceed down that avenue,it probably won't be for a while anyway.

the lord 11th February 2006 13:06

B737 and/or A320 Type rating - where/who, and why?
 
Dear friends!

IŽll like to ask you where I can find companies or schools, where I can make a type rating of B737 or A320.

A part of take a type rating I will like to make hours. Because it is too difficult to work with out hours.So if I have to pay it,I will pay.

An example of the school or compańy, it is like Ryanair. You pay your HT and they offer work to make hours. Something like this I look it.
If it is only a place where they only offer the HT+Hours it is not a problem.

Thank you very much :ok:

banana head 11th February 2006 16:19

PARC aviation in Dublin have banner adverts here on PPRuNe regularly.
For details, try looking on their website,here

:)

Bond Aviation / Astraeus also offer B737 programs with hours I believe,
Have a look Here

And a quick google search came up with this crowd in BRU:
Hubair?

Busbar 11th February 2006 20:31

Try GECAT at London Gatwick. The link is www.gecat.com They offer self sponsored type rating courses and some of the airlines do pick up guys after they finish. Two friends of mine got jobs with First Choice on the A320 after doing the GECAT course.

Hope this helps! :ok:

Allioth 17th March 2006 09:26

100h. on type... Is it enough???
 
Hi guys,

I've just decided to go through the training in Stapleford and then do the Astraeus TR with a 100h. line training...

Now I'm thinking: is it enough to have just 100h. and apply for a job? I'm not talking about Ryanair, since I know all the story about jobs there... I'm talking about ANY other airline here in Europe... I saw a lot of application forms in internet and everybody is asking AT LEAST 500h on type... Do you think it's enough to go there and say:
"Hello, I have 300h total time, and just 100h on B737 type. Can you hire me?"

I'm a bit worried... Do you think there are chances to get hired with such a low amount of hours?

Thanks

windshear-a-head 17th March 2006 09:35

To be honest i think it depends on what the airline your applying for is looking for, if everyone applying for the job has low hours and no experience and you have 100 hours you may be slightly ahead in the queue, however in terms of experience more often than not an airline determines experience as a minimum of 500 hours on type. Its usually insurance reasons and also risk at type rating/line training.

Just beware of putting all your eggs in one basket with regards to the 737.

Good Luck

Dude~ 17th March 2006 09:50


I saw a lot of application forms in internet and everybody is asking AT LEAST 500h on type
Don't mean to point out the obvious but if people are asking for 500 hrs on type, then 100 is probably not enough, unless you can make sure beforehand that they might make an exception for you, or you have excellent contacts.

Just think carefully about it.


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