Dean International flight school?
 

I am looking for a school to build sme hours in Florida this November.

I have seen several school, and this is one of my "favorite" (always talking just by searching internet)

can someone help me telling me some feedbacks about it?

I have seen also another school called Air America Flight center...

Some of you have been flying with them, or do you know someone who was?

Both have good rental prices, but I want to talked to someone who has been flying with them recenly...

I need fedbacks tobe confident about some school.. I have asked, and talked to several schools around florida, and I am already colapsed...

Also, if you have been flying in other school with good rates, please tell me where, I need some help to decided wich school to fly with..

Thank you in advance

you can ARI ben aviator.. Flight Training - Multi Engine Time Building Programs - Aviator Flight Training College

or

ATP flight school

ATP Flight School: Time Building Programs

Please, Could you tell me more about where did you fly deserva??

Was it a school?

Wich airport was the airplane at?

those 80$ were with taxes and fees included?

shared time, ¿how does it works?
 

Hello all.

I am looking for a time building in USA, and I have looooot of doubts about he famous shared time..

It sounds really useful talking about reducing costs..

How does it works? Must I have an IR rating? and the other pilot?

How they (the schools) can write those PIC hours down in BOTH logbooks?

It is so confuse...

Thank you in advance!

Crazy prices.

Im not gonna pay those quantities for a c150...

Im heading USA to save some money, not to spend much more than in my country.. haha

more feedbacks guys! I need help!

It operates under FAR Part 91.109(b)(1)

It applies to FAA hours only and you must have an FAA IR.

It will not count towards EASA.

Some NAA's provide guidance on this :

I can not believe no one would like to do a time building in USA....

I have preselect 3 schools:

1. FLORIDA FLYERS
2. DEAN INTERNATIONAL
3. CHANDLER AVIATION SERVICE.

My favourite is Florida Flyers, but if someone wants to go to other place , I could adapt.

I would like as soon as possible, maximum february...

big grecian, if they don't file IFR plan, fly in VMC only, why does the pilot under hood or the safety pilot acting as PIC, as per the 'safety pilot' regs, mauled ad nauseum all over internet, NEED Instrument Rating? :confused:

yeah, agree, some European newbies see the 50% OFF and go overly excited, without knowing the FAA specifics and limited usefulness for Europe.

I'll briefly say it again, CL215:
being safety pilot, ie watching for traffic/staying in VMC if applicable/responsible for safety, only counts for FAA flight experience if all the rules are followed. Safety pilot, if in IMC, needs to be instrument rated and current. If flying on instrument plan, there must be designated instrument rated current PIC. If you want 100% legal EASA/CASA etc PIC hours, you don't fly with another rated pilot and just fly solo.

You could in theory find pilot who only needs FAA loggable hours, doesn't mind sitting there while you do all the flying and you're happy to be under hood all the time in air from taking off to couple hundred feet high before landing. If you want to do some instrument approaches practice, it'd be prudent to have that safety pilot legal to be PIC on IFR plan, or stick to VFR/VMC only (which could be troublesome, mixing with IFR training flights in area trying to do the same as them).

Also, sticking to the rules, how much fun would it be flying S&L staring at instruments/gages doing some interesting great scenery cross-country flights?

Yeah, good to have value and new experience, but don't try to be too much of a cheapskate and risk issues back in Europe or build plans on meeting someone online and then something falls through and you or both get very upset for one reason or another.

If you were to fly under hood in ACTUAL/IMC, then you'd need to be legal to fly under IFR/IMC, ie rated, current, licensed, medical. Then the safety pilot strictly speaking wouldn't be manipulating controls nor 'required' to see and avoid traffic/terrain in IMC, so technically not loggable for him/her.

Without doing any promo for any school/company, I'm pasting AOPA link. Beware that US AOPA doesn't consider Europe or elsewhere, where there's meant to be only one PIC in single pilot aircraft. Being safety pilot, even if the European chap under hood 'signs for aircraft', means ACTING as PIC, ie legally required there and responsible for safety, which can be concluded as performing duties of PIC in Europe.

Logging Pilot-in-Command (PIC) Time - AOPA

Whatever you do, think it through, do proper research, check and ensure you have plenty paperwork to show for your flights if questioned/asked for evidence other than logbook entries.
If you team up with someone for more enjoyable travel and 'take turns' and spend double time in air, strictly having one designated for the flight, without any of the safety pilot stuff, it may work out. If it doesn't, personalities, finance and whatnot, do not be too surprised. Just a well-meant reminder.

I Was in Florida flyiers years ago....best one!!!

I found this on the net
https://engineering.purdue.edu/PPI/safetypilot.php

I am going back to US for time bulding and split time sounds good,I have a FAA PPL
Probably having already an IFR rating should help , not sure ;I am spending time on the web doing research on this topic.

I am preparing all paperwork to go to Florida an a question appears:

Someone knows if I need to get an english radioelephony proficiency before heading Florida?

Or it is automatically converted once they convert my JAA spanish license into an FAA license?

Thank you in advance!

i have an interesting question. lets say you have to fly at least 4 hours everyday for 15-20 days. what kind of route would you choose? always stay in florida or have couple of long x-c?

CL215,


They will talk to you when you go the FSDO to receive your certificate. If you understand what they say and reply back, you can understand and speak English. And they'll have you read a paragraph of an airplane manual and explain it. And write a couple ATC clearances they give and read them back. Do all that and you are FAA English proficient.

You don't need an RT license as it is included within your FAA License as long as you stay within USA. I would highly recommend Sunstate Aviation at KISM. I did my CFI and CFII with them. New aircraft all 172 sp and most have G1000.

Hi all, I'm looking for some flight school or club in Bakersfield who rents a plane for some hour building. Anyone has had recent experience there?

There's no FCC radio telephone license "included within" a FAA certificate. The FCC does not require a pilot to hold a RT license if they are flying in domestic airspace. There is the requirement to be "English Proficient" and the testing is done as part of issuing the certificate.

Hi has anyone done any hour building at Europe-America Aviation at Naples ?
Was looking for a place that rent Diamond Aircraft in USA to do some hour building while over on holiday anyone got any reviews of reputable schools in Florida or California ?

Thanks

Hi all,
I've just found the Bakersfield flying club who has good rent rates with c172 and c150 both with garmin gps. Is there anyone who flew there or who has any feedback? There aren't enough information on this club as it was founded only in 2011

Nothing wrong with Bakersfield per se. It is in the middle of nowhere and so when you are not flying there is nothing to do.
Personally, I prefer to start from somewhere reasonably nice near the coast.
If you want somewhere small with no frills - take a look at Santa Paula.

Do you mean cp aviation for example?

Bakersfield airport is quiet, but doesn't suffer from thick Summer sea fog. Depends if you're planning to stay in Bakersfield or go touring.

I did my CPL/IR(H) there in 2008.

Hi all

Heading out to Arizona to do some hours building in February.

Does anybody have any recent feedback regarding Chandler Air Service?

Anybody planning a similar trip around the same time? Not looking to share hours (as unable under part-FCL of course).

License Validation Authencification
 

Hi again.

I have some doubts about the License Validation Authentification document...

I am filling it, but at point 7., I have a doubt...

At point 7. it says: License issued, (that is it, nothing more)

and at point 7a. it says license issued by (Country) so obviously I should fill it with my country.

So it makes me doubt about what to fill in 7. Should I keep it in blank?

I think it is just letting me know what is it going to asking me about... (Different information about License issues)

Could someone who filled it before successfully, or someone who knows what should I fill, help me?

Thank you in advance!

That's right. :ok:

I have finished flying in Deland Aviation with their cessna 152. It is a well maintained aircraft, ifr certified. I highly recommend them, although they have only one 152. On the other hand they have a maintenance hangar, that is why even if there is something wrong with it they can fix it in no time.

I had 90 hours in 2 weeks, kind of exhausting but it is done.

In Deland aviation's website there are also a cessna172 and Piper in the fleet page is it not for real?

yes they have those too, i just meant they had only one cessna 152, other than that i belive they had at least 7-8 planes in their fleet. the only plane i needed for my time building was c152 that is why i did not mentioned the rest.

Does anyone have any information about NCB Aviation? Are they operative?
I tried sending them an email a few days ago but I haven't heard them yet.

Hi Guys,

I am planning a trip to US with a friend of mine next year. He is going there to do his PPL(A), I want to build hours. At the moment we are looking for a cheap flight school offering both - flight instructing and hour building, preferably in Cessna 150/152.

The school does not have to be located in California or Florida as I have heard that the prices are a little higher in popular states.

Do you know any place meeting our requirements?

Thanks!

Captain Bradley
 

The two are mutually exclusive.
To train you need a M1 visa as a minimum and a school that can accommodate a foreign student.
Hour building you do not need such a school and could probably pay a lower rental fee at a regular Part 61 Flight School who do not have to worry about foreign students and hence potentially lower cost.

Hour building
 

Hi there .
I am a ppl holder from ireland and I want to build 80hrs . Hoping to start around mid January 2015 . Can any one recommend a flight school that is well priced with a good reputation in Florida please

Hour building
 

Hi gaz45.
Is the prices quoted from chandler air inc taxes ? I am looking Into hour building with them. Would like some advice please ?

Wow in 12 minutes you have gone from Florida to Arizona....

If you look on their website, it clearly states that tax is charged on the rental rate - so it will be added unless you are dual.
If you haven't started your Cert of Authentication then you had better do so if you are really thinking of January 2015 with the holidays coming up.

Hours Building Recommended Schools
 

Hello,

I am looking for a recommended place to do my hours building in the U.S.A or Europe. The weather in the UK at the moment is not great so makes sense to spend around 3-4 weeks abroad for hours building. USA seems to work out competitive based on the exchange rate.

I am flexible with regards to the state (europe or usa) and ultimately prefer a small school with a personal touch rather than a "pilot factory".. Looking to build approximately 80 hours and then will build the rest of the 20 hours in the UK.

The school should have well maintained aircraft with good availability of the C152. This is what I learned on and is the cheapest! - I am not interested in the "safety pilot scheme".

I have emailed Chandler Aviation Services and they have come back with a quote of approximate $8000 for 80 hours with $1500 of taxes and checkouts = so round numbers of $9500 on a Cherokee 140 or PA28 (I believe).

What should I be asking the schools when I make enquiries?

I have thought of the following:

- Taxes,
- Landing Fees
- Fuel Surcharge
- Cost for touch & go's
- insurance waiver
- Accommodation.

Any schools which you can suggest would be welcome ideas? I will be converting my license to the FAA required for hours building.

Surnrise aviation, florida

#7
 

Leave the space after 7 empty. The first entry should be at 7a.

Don't forget to get a FCC licence if you want to use your FAA validation OUTSIDE the USA. Costs about 60USD. You do not need a FCC licence if you are only flying in the states. You can also apply when you are at home. Register on the FCC website; if you go there, you need the "other" licence. It will make sense when you look at the application. Or maybe not, it took me about three days to figure out exactly what I needed to do. It takes about 6 weeks to get the plastic licence in the mail from the FAA.

cavok_flyer,

who did you do your hours building with?

FAA Syllabus vs. EASA
 

Evening Gents!

Picking back up on a few posts from this time last year (Man, time flies right!) relating to FAA PPL vs UK PPL and the recommendation to train & fly in the USA if possible.

As mentioned in previous posts, I do have US Citizenship and the ability to work and live in the US is not a problem. I am still living in the UK and do a bit of flying here and there (only about 11 hours on the logbook so far) but now I finally have A few tokens in the pocket, and i've decided its time to take the plunge and go forward with the Move stateside.. I've quit the job, selling up the belongings and move back to New Mexico in 2 weeks!

I'll also be Joining the Air National Guard as well as studying towards my Degree (since this is a prerequisite for US Airline Pilots), so that should hopefully be taken care of in a few years!

My question relates primarily to the syllabus of the FAA PPL material and how similar it is to the EASA books. I've got a few of the Trevor Thom books here that i've been reading through; is it worth continuing on with these, or will the RT, Air Law etc be so different that i would need to purchase additional books for the FAA PPL?

I wouldn't say reading the Pooley's books would do me any harm, but i would quite like to buy the FAA books soon so that I have something to get stuck into prior to the move and to read on the flight over etc (early bird gets the worm and all that)...


Any advice on the above from you guys would be great, and if you can recommend any good FAA books to purchase that'd be helpful too!

Much appreciated!

DK,
search ASA test prep on amazon.co.uk/com if you haven't come across it.
other books, well, plenty in pdf format off FAA website, plus recommend (second hand cheaper) commercial/instrument training manual (Jepp).

It's OK to get some of the ASA test prep few years dated (except maybe CFI stuff due to new questions) as not much changes there, 'as new' condition etc. You're probably away from this damn cold/crap weather place by now. Just FYI.