Hero Aviation Greece
 

I want to get myself enroll for zero to ATPL in that school but the problem is that they are asking for 8000 euros just to process an application.I just want to know if anyone got completed their training from there .
Last but not the least they will be charging 49000 euros for the above training with accommodation.

PILOTS SCHOOL FLIGHT ACADEMY

but it is little costly as compared to hero aviation, can some one tell me is it a good flying school or it is a spam

Visa seekers
 

If you don't need a visa to go to Greece you don't need to pay an advance..
There are hundreds of people applying to the European schools only to get a visa and not follow the class.
By the Greek law to get a visa as an aviation student between other documents at the embassy will ask you also the receipt of the payment and it must be 30% of the total cost.
The solution is to say that you are going for PPL which is only 4950 euro so the advance is 1500 euro.
:ugh:

hello all!
 

I went through the same thoughts as anyone would when contemplating studies at a school they know little about especially when it is geographically distant from you.

You can take a gamble or you can do your research....I did a bit of both and found researching private companies, particulary in aviation is virtually impossible unless you find students (past/present) of the academy and ask them of their experience.

Ask for students contact information and speak to them and hear of their experience. If you have any doubts on the genuinity of hero's students then match their contact emails to social networks such as facebbook.

I can totally relate to you as I have been through this head banging experience myself trying to establish if the school is or isn't spam and how far they will take your money to benefit you therefore I have created this account to ensure you get some help with your decision based on the experience of somebody who is a student at this very school.

I am currently a female student of hero-aviation from abroad (NOT a greek national) and can speak to anyone who wishes to speak with me about my personal experience at this school to help you make your decision based on the merits of Hero-aviaition.

You can contact me via a private message through here before you part with your money and I promise to reply with my humble, but honest and unbiased thoughts of this school so you are content with your decision whether or not to study here.

hello
 

Yes I am british but do no have any idea on any schools in ENGLAND as I am in greece and a student at hero!!!! Look at the title of the thread!:*

Response to private messages
 

Hello again,

I've received emails regarding the existance of Hero aviation and can confirm it very much exists and is in the midst of moving to bigger & better premises much nearer to the airport.

And yes, they have english speaking instructors and in fact has one instructor who is from England so excel in the language. Another one of their instructors is spanish but with high level of english hence I have never found communication to be a barrier.

Hero is not a chain company certainly not part of Egnatia aviation thus I cannot comment on that school or any other.

As mentioned before I have never been to any other school hence I cannot speak on behalf of ANY other school be it Greece or UK. I am at HERO, though it remains to be seen for how long and whether I leave all smiles or tears and can only speak of my experiences at this school. I am in the process of creating my own blog detailing my review of the school to help others make an informatve decision whether they want to be part of this school. Once it s done I will post a link here and you can also access it when you input hero aviation in any search engine.

Good day :)

hello
 

Marrikar, I have inboxed you the details you require.

I hope it is of use to you.

Regards

Hero Aviation Greece
 

murad009pk I know Hero Aviation and the school is only licensed to offerPPL training. You can check the Greek CAA website for more info at: http://www.hcaa.gr/content/index.asp?tid=542&lang=2. Hero is an RF, that means that it cannot offer any training except PPL although it says it can offer everything. I considered going there myself beacuse the cost is so low but I asked around and everyone told me to stay away, the school is not reliable.

crisis
 

Just be carfull with the crisis in greece, you may spend more money there as everything is expensive !

They say they are, maybe the HCAA web is not updated

GR - FTO - 020

About hero
 

hi how r u
hope u can advise me as i am intrested to the cheap 0 to ATPL PACKAGE WITH HERO and job guarantee and in case can you please tell me which is the best to go for 0 to ATPL
in waiting your reply have my best regards

sometimes you need to understand that some things are too good to be true!
there is no cheap pilot training program!
Hero does only PPL :sad: and i think have only one ac, no sim no multi engine no real ground school
if you want to be a pilot do it properly or not at all!!
you don't have to go to the most expensive schools but go to a good one to learn something.
for greece it's either

JetStream - Pilot Training

http://www.globalaviation.gr

Egnatia Aviation - Training College

Paying a large sum of money upfront is a bankers job. A banker would not lend 8000 euros to that school without any collateral and without having gathered a large quantity of information.
If your credit is better that the school's one, which is likely if you're able to pay the full training, they should rather place a deposit with you to secure your training than the other way around.
If the school needs to get your money before they have incurred any cost, it probably means that their financial position is not at its best.
On a regular basis, flight schools get bankrupt and students loose their upfront payments.

Are you sure ??
 

Giving information like this can be a good reason to take you to the court for derogation.But of course you are not going to say who you are and how do you know what HERO AVIATION is, and how many airplanes they have etc...
You look very well informed for the other Greek Schools and the links you send.
Hero aviation is giving the best price and the best quality of training both groung and flight with 4 airplanes and more soon.
And of course is an FTO .
have a look at the link : GR - FTO - 020

56 students from 23 different countries are studing today 19/12/12 and believe me they are all happy.
They are also the reason that we are able to offer the best price (not only in Greece)
If you have the gots let us know who you are..........

What an attitude! Already looking to take people to court after a Pprune statement.....this will be a post to follow!

This resembles a similar atmosphere that prevails in a thread about Ventum Air:
http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...ir-merged.html

The Ventum Air owner basically posting as a student and again as owner, manipulating, threatening to take people to court. Scared students posting positive feedback initially, and once they have nothing to do with the FTO anymore they feel free to inform everyone about the toxic company culture and terrible training.
I am going to sit back and see how this HERO AVIATION story unfolds.....

Wow bullying hero school
 

It's defamation not derogation and keep your temper down. Threats to court is childish when you have no leg to stand on. This forum is for people to discuss schools and training. Many people know of the way you operate. People, if the offer looks too good to be true then as someone told me who went there it is exactly that. School maybe full with foreign students but they have 2 planes only. One is a show plane c172 never used by students and one is c150 which they use. No simulator, no multis nothing else. But here they are offering atpl which nobody has yet gained there. He offers an unfrozen atpl which any person with a brain will know is impossible for the price he quotes 48,000 euros. he fails to mention The students are not allowed to talk to anybody without consent and forced to say good off the school that is why captain dimos is so sure they will back him up referring us to his current students but not past on his website. Otherwise as many others they will loose the offer they thought was so good. And in a country they hardly know would you choose to be in that situation? After a while you will see that you do pay for your ticket that is supposed to be included, housing and all other extra fees. You end up paying hundred of euros for each flight hour. If you leave by choice or not you do not get a refund back. So telling people on your website to contact your students captain dimos why don't you give us links to the past students who left not happy and let us decide for ourselves if this is a fraud school as we think? Maybe you should change you proud attitude. It's not professional. But then I hear there is a lot of very unprofessional acts in your school! care to tell us off the numerous instructors and students who left without completion? Portos believe me this school is more toxic than ventum air. Here they bribe students with great offers they know they cannot really give then too late students realise months and years later they leave with no money, licence or even hours. I spoke to a couple students who studied here. I was shocked and registered to warn everybody. Be very careful before parting with your hard earned money to a the owner who can sell water to a duck! Ask for past students and instructors or contact me and I will refer you to a few.:ok:

Hero Aviation school
 

Hello,

I saw your comment about hero aviation and want more informations about this school, in fact, i choosed this school to start my PPL soon and i try to contact students to give me some feedbacks before to take my decision, thank you for your attention and your advices.

:ok:

Hmmmm you from Dublin for english cannot be your first language "David". So I guess you speak Gaelic? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/embarass.gif
Does anyone else smell something "fishy" here?:rolleyes:

Mmmmm
 

Clearly somebody who studies there forced into writing here or somebody who works at hero. I suppose ventum air are not the only messed up pilot school operating!

Onky difference is Hero FTO are known to target foreigners and women are abused there. Atleast two women left because of this reason. I am shock how this trick fto is still open. I suppose the foreigners are keeping it running. They easy tricked and don't mind how they get their lisense because the training at hero do not follow aviation rules. Remember hero, solos are a must not an option and safety pilots are forbidden by jaa! And students of hero you will regret training this way. It is cheating and only you will suffer later when you try to get atpl.

Haters gonna hate
 

First of all i would just like to say that i am not here to argue with anyone, especially the ignorant who just want to cause a commotion and refuse to open their eyes to see opportunities that pass by........... :ok:


Hi there
for anyone that is interested in Hero Aviation, I am currently a student undertaking the Zero to FrozenATPL course at Hero Aviation



In my honest unbiased opinion of the school,
i think that if you are a mature independent student who knows how to study correctly and wishes to obtain an ATPL at the minimum costs then you should seriously take this school into consideration,


Yes the school is not as big as Oxford aviation or CTC wings or the likes of such as schools who charge 100k to obtain a ATPL where they spoon feed you everything....... (because most students would be rich and young so they would need to pay for alot of guidance during the course).......but if your serious about aviation have a good mind and understanding of what is required in an ATPL and want to spend 32k euros then this is a good school





For everyone who is wondering why the cost of the course is so cheap, it is quite simple,
The cost of living in Greece is low compared to other places like the U.K......hence all accommodation during the training is provided...which i think is excellent for many reasons

The Greek civilian aviation authority examination fees are also cheap
14 JAA ATPL exams in U.K = £980
14 JAA ATPL exam in Greece = 70euros (this is the price for every school in Greece set by the authorities)

All other fees i.e landing takeoff parking are surprisingly so low they are negligible


And also the majority of other school all around the world rip you off and this business thrives in young individuals paying excess amounts of money to schools to become airline pilots and they make alot of profit, so when you see schools who charge so little.....just for a second think 30-40thousand euros isnt nothing.........but compared to rip offs like 60thousand it sounds like a bargain but in a matter of fact......the other schools are just ripping you off......so its upto you, if you want to be ripped off or not.....i certainly didn't and i dont regret it


But i must emphasis that for anyone who is going to spend 30-40thousand (or even 60 or even 100thousand euros) that you must know what your getting yourself into before hand, it is not a walk in the park, if you are mentally prepared and ready and dont need anyone behind your back telling you what to do and when to do it and how to do it, and you are a grown up and can think for yourself then school like this are perfect for you if you dont have 100k to spare.



I hope you all have a wonderful career in aviation

BAAAAAAAAAAARRFFFFFF!

.......Ooops Sorry.

As Malta has proven last week, the Euro crisis is far from over in these corners of the continent. Beware, beware, beware!

ho ho ho
 

What is your name "frank"? :rolleyes:
And what has happened to "captain dimos"
Very protective of hero right?
And you refer to uk? hmmm
Stronger smell of fish!
Ventum Air lives on through hero! :D
P.S I think it will be very long time before hero can begin to even think to challenge schools like oxford or wings. Remember the cheaper the school the cheaper the tuition.

hmmmm
 

By the way, looking through your post "frank", some of what you say don't quite make sense. I do not mean to be rude but you use words out of context such as the word "hence" and I have noticed, most words you use, are of previous poster of this forum (on hero aviation) page 1.
But we can tell you put a lot of thought in your post. :ok:

HEROES? a joke!
 

Frank is obviously Captain Dimos who is the founder of Hero Aviation.

Beware this school. They not professional whatsoever as you must have figured out by now.

If you heard rumours of this school. Believe it!

They specialise in gossip rather than aviation.

Your success here is dependant on how much they like you. In other words even a brain-dead person can obtain a licence here whilst a pilot with abilities may not.

THINK ABOUT IT!

Just checked their pics gallery and wondered about the guy with 5 bars on the shoulders -airborne achilles or what ? strange indeed

Strange school
 

I think by now most of us have figured out what is going on with HERO school! It is rather sad that they have to play double roles to attract students not to mention how they put other flight schools & their students down to promote their own. Pitiful actually. Does anybody know if they are even legal? :confused:
I agree, it should definitely be investigated!

Help required
 

I saw your replys on pprune.org against hero aviation academy. I also have some doubts regarding this institutes because these peoples are not replying properly. want to know more details about this school because i am planning to do my flight training there. So please guide me about it.

Good school for expensive visas but cheap poor tuition school!
 

Be careful! look at the reviews you have been warned! Hope you do not regret starting at this rubbish school if it is still running and robbing people! But if you are wanting a visa then this school is good for you like other foreign students who wants to stay in greece but it comes at a high cost so be prepared! Ask other international students who I believe are happy with their long visas! ;)

been there
 

Because the continuous bad weather in my country I decided to look for an opportunity to get my PPL-practice training in a country with reliable good weather to make the most for my licence needed practice hours within a couple of weeks, flying every day. Searching the internet for a European school that could offer me that everyday training I found the Hero aviation school in Kalamata, Greece. Also I found this forum with the thread about this school. I decided to look for myself to make up my mind, based on my own observations. After an e-mail exchange (always quick replies) with HERO, in which I could ask already many questions, and with all the negative messages in this thread in mind, I took a flight to Kalamata on June 24. I got a warm welcome, good quality accomodation, met the director, the executive P.A & P.R manager, many students and instructors, looked around in the school building, visited the student appartments (above the school), attended part of a theory lesson and had a great instruction flight with the head-instructor, mister Glynis (the man with the '5 bars' on his shoulder: actually he has 4, the fifth 'bar' is the name of the school), from the Mègara airfield near Athens (where from Monday to Friday most instruction flights take place). I could ask any question to any person and got all the answers I wanted without restrictions or fear. All the persons I met were real existing, hard working and studying people who always tried to find some time to meet me and talk with me. Of course my aim was limited: find out about the practice training for PPL-A. I am doing my theory exams in my own country, and most probably will get my licence here. Now back in my country with memories of a great week in Kalamata I must start the 'fight' with the authorities to split my training for the licence in a part here (the exams) and a part in Greece (flying!). In both countries there are problems about this construction, but my experience with Hero gives me a strong motivation to continue this path. No, I am not payed by HERO to write this positive evaluation, I am just honest about what I have seen and heard. So when you want to know about the school: ask them your questions and go and look for yourself if you can.

aha!
 

Hello Roeloph. Nice to see you enjoyed your "trip to greece". Also nice to see how much you learnt in that short trip. (You even educated us to the stripes of the instructor!) Oh yes we all believe you are a "genuine student from Holland". No doubting that at all. Especially considering you have that only one post especially dedicated to Hero. I am sure you will get many questions from unsuspecting students who believe you exist and which you will answer "without restrictions or fear" in favour of your school. Nobody dispute that you are "not PAID (not payed) by HERO to write this REVIEW (not evaluation!) and we sure believe you are "honest" as you claim. Well done! But sadly too many reviews on this school and too many students studying there are talking and want their money back because they are not happy. So no Hero school, we base decisions on past experiences of students NOT the current ones FORCED into writing good about you and asking people to come visit your school? Well of course you will be nice BEFORE you take students money. Any muppet will be! The question is how nice are you when students have problems? Besides, wasn't this very school in trouble not so long ago with HCCA with the way students were acquiring licences? In fact I hear there are a couple of their very "hard working students" complaining they have been robbed! What you say to that? ;)

ahoi!
 

Hey Starz! Roeloph is my real name, I really live in Holland, I really am not a student, instructor or director of Hero, I really am a member of a Dutch aviation club, I really paid the trip myself, I really was in Kalamata for one week and I really can produce all the evidence for these facts immediately. So that's all 'Starz', I am not interested in any fight with you on this forum. I wish you much luck and happiness in your life, and if you fly: many happy landings.

WHATEVER
 

Whatever you say "Roeloph". But out of interest, what proof do you have? Not that I do not believe you. Just wondering.

GREECE FLIGHT SCHOOLS
 

Well, you know a school when you hear them talk with such spite about past students!

I won't let my son or especially daughter to go to a place like Hero if they will be spoken of so degradingly as Hero Academy describes some of the students!

Is Hero actually lisensed? Sounds like a bunch of hating individuals who owns an aircraft and probably operating a school illegally???

Any how I need a school for my child in greece we've moving end of september.

Does anybody know much about the new Olympus Academy? http://www.olympusacademy.gr/ obviously no way as cheap as Hero but looks promising.

TRUTH!
 

BANG ON DAVE13!
Avoid hero but other schools are not half as bad
Don't know much about Olympus
Anybody?

hero aviation scam
 

Hi I was studying at that school but everything went bad for me now I'm trying to get my money back but Dimos owner of the school refusing give me my money back I need help. Please avoid this school don't end up like me

Hi have you been into that school I'm having problems getting m6 money back.

AVOID THIS SCHOOL AT AL COST! Dont say that you have not be warned.
Whoever comes here and pretend that the school is good is either working for HERO or got paid. They let their modular students start their ATPL groundschool without obtaining their PPL first. This goes against the rules laid out in PART FCL. which clearly states to obtain PPL before you can officially start with the ATPL groundschool. They dont have airplanes so they tell you to do the theoretical stuff first. HAPPY waiting for your day to start actual flying!! Plus for every flying lesson you need to drive 3 hours each way to megara airport!!! Good luck waisting your time on the road! If you will get a chance to fly out of Kalamata airport you ll need a so called approval and this can take a VERY long time so there you are again waisting time and waiting. They also use this to delay your actual flying because again no aircraft availability! Kalamata airport is ONLY available in the weekends for civilians use.
Instructors are very low experienced and so afraid of the management. Again i dont blame them as they need to build up their hours.

Do you want to go for a cheap course then go ahead!! You are warned by several folks here on the forum.

UPDATE -

Hero's website has been revamped totally. They've taken the approach of highlighting potential tricks other FTOs use to trick students.

They now incorporate a 'pay as you go' payment scheme and actually give lots of advice on how to spot a shady FTO.

They make numerous references to being EASA/JAA certified also.

This leads to me two conclusions, either they've totally cleaned up their act and adopted new principles or it's an even bigger sham.

Any thoughts?