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mindaugenius 5th Jul 2023 11:32


Originally Posted by BAA Training (Post 11461010)
Maintenance

We would like to emphasize that BAA Training operates its own Maintenance, Repair, and Overhaul (MRO) organization called Avia Repair Co, situated at Lleida International Airport, alongside our flight school facility.

Avia Repair Co specializes in high-quality maintenance activities, encompassing routine or pre-planned maintenance that is typically scheduled based on factors such as flight hours since the last maintenance check, the number of cycles, or the age of the aircraft. Additionally, the organization carries out ad-hoc maintenance tasks.

Regrettably, our maintenance capability was temporarily disrupted as a result of the aforementioned storm. However, we are pleased to inform you that since the end of February, our maintenance hangar is fully operational and functioning smoothly.

While it is true that we experienced flight cancellations due to technical issues, it is important to note that these decisions were made in adherence to safety protocols and to allow sufficient time for a comprehensive analysis of the situation. We prioritize the safety of our operations and ensure that necessary repairs are carried out effectively.

It is worth mentioning that the establishment of Avia Repair Co a couple of years ago did not introduce an entirely unfamiliar business field for BAA Training. As a member of the Avia Solutions Group (ASG), the parent company of BAA Training, we were already part of a group that operated twelve MRO organizations. This affiliation provides us with trusted resources, enabling knowledge sharing and robust spare parts supply support.

Furthermore, we have established partnerships with several MRO organizations that assist us in performing more complex maintenance tasks when necessary. These collaborations bolster our capabilities and allow us to deliver comprehensive maintenance solutions.

Fancy words but your maintenance hangar is a tent which was turned upside down during the storm which you keep on referring to as a force majeure event. All your tools were scattered to the left and right of the apron and beyond.
Even after the storm you have learnt no lessons and you still keep on storing your aircraft outdoors with ropes and stones and yes your maintenance hangar is still a tent.
Had you had any respect for your the quality of your customers training, integrity of the fleet and aviation in general, you would have invested in proper hangars after the storm.


But you don't.

mindaugenius 5th Jul 2023 12:04


Originally Posted by BAA Training (Post 11459476)
due to the Covid-19 pandemic, LOT Polish Airlines suspended their program, affecting the employment prospects for the nine BAA Training cadets who completed the ATPL Integrated part.

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Covid-19 didn't seem to affect our friend Victor's employment here with LOT 🤔

gigachad 5th Jul 2023 12:12


Originally Posted by mindaugenius (Post 11462288)
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Covid-19 didn't seem to affect our friend Victor's employment here with LOT 🤔

Force majeure because pandemics discriminate only BAA cadets employment prospects :{:{

Warlock1 6th Jul 2023 09:35

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These are some of latest reviews of your school on Google. Before you go telling fantasy stories about your “working” planes or employment rates of your graduates, try to address the problems you are having first.

lleidapilot 12th Jul 2023 12:43


Originally Posted by BAA Training (Post 11459475)
an additional 14 hours are flown on an MEP aircraft.

of those 14 hours, 3 hours are conducted on a simulator which is not modelled after the p2006, which you use for MEP training.
This leaves the students with 11 hours on the real ME aircraft. Of those 11 hours- 3 hours are used for the CPL skills test, which leaves the students with only 8 hours of real flight time on the ME- aircraft.
You send out students to complete the most important exam in their studies with only 8 hours on the aircraft type which they will have the skills test on.

lleidapilot 3rd Aug 2023 17:34

Latest update:
They had a bird strike with their rented multi engine aircraft and the airplane has suffered severe damage. Due to this the flight school which previously rented the multi engine aircraft to BAA has cut ties with them and therefore the students who are currently in the multi engine phases or are waiting for their final CPL exam are stuck and will have to wait for a very for an eternity due to the fact the BAA trainings own fleet is grounded and has been grounded since last year and no one wants to do business with them. They have no other alternative.


Originally Posted by BAA Training (Post 11459475)
While we do not currently utilize our own MEP because it is not currently a financially viable solution, we have found an alternative solution that ensures sufficient capacity to accommodate students and allows them to continue their flight training.

It is indeed financially viable to take all training fees upfront and make the students sit on the ground without a single flight as you dont have to pay for fuel nor navigation fees.

Today they gathered all their unemployed alumni and tried to scam them through a teams meeting by providing them with an 'avion express job opportunity'. The terms: self sponsored 35 000 euros for type rating and base training all paid up front, before any interview or contract . Then an interview after type rating and should you pass the interview (which they will fail you on purpose) you pay lpc and the occ course all by yourself.
When questioned about the fact that no one from this program had got a job before , and the fact that most cadet programs run by BAA had failed like LOT etc. they became angry and started muting participants who asked questions during the meeting.

Wizz air went to Lleida for an audit at BAA back in 2022 summer to see if it was worth reopening the cadet program. Despite severely lacking pilots, they chose to keep out.

No company ever, which BAA has worked with previously has re-engaged partnerships with BAA.

If airlines do not choose BAA, why should individuals ?

Warlock1 4th Oct 2023 09:03


Originally Posted by Claudio A (Post 11513529)
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I would like to request a full refund for the cost of the course. I am also requesting that you take steps to improve the quality of your training programs.

Sincerely,
Claudio

Man this sentence was the funniest. 😆
Let me know even if you get a cent back!

TheEdge 4th Oct 2023 16:00


Originally Posted by Claudio A (Post 11513529)
Dear BAA Training,

I am writing to complain about my recent experience with your training program. I enrolled in the ATPL Integrated course in 2022, and I was very disappointed with the quality of the instruction and the overall experience.

Here are some specific complaints:
  • The instructor was not knowledgeable about the subject matter. He often made mistakes during his/her lectures, and he was unable to answer my questions.
  • The course materials were outdated and poorly organized.
  • The hands-on exercises were not relevant to the course material, and they were not helpful in preparing me for the final exam.
  • The final exam was unfair and difficult. It included questions on topics that were not covered in the course.
I am very disappointed with the time and money that I wasted on this training program. I would not recommend BAA Training to anyone.

I would like to request a full refund for the cost of the course. I am also requesting that you take steps to improve the quality of your training programs.

Sincerely,
Claudio

Really ??? Do you really think you will get a refund with an email such as this one ???????
BAA, smartlynx, avion and all Aviasolutions group are the worst criminals within the baltics muddy countries....you wont see a single euro.
Bring them to the court if you have money and time.

hid3 5th Oct 2023 18:25

Baltics muddy countries? Be careful on turns.
Avia Solutions Groups is Gediminas Ziemelis's business who has got a lot of common stuff with Russia rather than the Baltics.

TheEdge 6th Oct 2023 10:51


Originally Posted by hid3 (Post 11515028)
Baltics muddy countries? Be careful on turns.
Avia Solutions Groups is Gediminas Ziemelis's business who has got a lot of common stuff with Russia rather than the Baltics.

He created an empire in few years..., impossible otherwise, guess using which moneys :) ???

hid3 6th Oct 2023 17:15


Originally Posted by TheEdge (Post 11515466)
He created an empire in few years..., impossible otherwise, guess using which moneys :) ???

His father was Prime Minister.
So that should explain quite a lot.
Also, they bought national Lithuanian Airlines (flyLAL) and then made them go bankrupt.
Very long story about that person and his relations

Flyfede80 9th Oct 2023 15:10


Originally Posted by Claudio A (Post 11514082)
BAA Training Refund Complaint

I am writing to express my extreme dissatisfaction with BAA Training. I enrolled in their ATPL program with the expectation of receiving high-quality training and support. However, I have been sorely disappointed.

The training at BAA Training is subpar at best. The instructors are often unqualified and inexperienced, and the materials are outdated and incomplete. I have had to spend many hours outside of class teaching myself the material in order to keep up.

In addition, BAA Training is notoriously difficult to get a refund from. I recently requested a refund, but I was denied. I have tried to contact the company multiple times, but they have been unresponsive.

I am writing this note to warn other students about BAA Training. If you are considering enrolling in their ATPL program, I urge you to reconsider. There are many other reputable training providers out there.

I'm sorry about that but, in 2022, 90% of the training ATPL cadets knew that BAA was just a nightmare in terms of quality offer and job opportunities...why did you choose them?;)

lleidapilot 9th Oct 2023 19:41

most of the applicants nowadays seem to be non eu. ie. indians for example. They get promised a job offer which never happens obviously - but for them EASA license is worth a lot in ICAO countries and BAA seem to accept non EU students with open arms , so they do get what they want in the end.
For any non EU wanting to join this school because of a job offer, please go look at linkedin profiles of other non eu students and see where they ended up in(hint- debt)
Don't be lured in by their current marketing tactic ie 87% graduates gets a job ( this number comes from turkish airlines students who were already employed and had their training, cost of living and transportation paid for by turkish airlines before they stepped foot into BAA. Turkish airlines was only outsourcing training to BAA, but not anymore because BAA underdelivers) their employment rates of self funded graduates are way less.

aviatorfr 12th Oct 2023 14:17

Dear Gigachad and all members,
Thank you for your post related to information on Cadet pilot program, I would like to request your kind advice on the cadet pilot training in Europe or outside ?
Please advise which cadet training program will be good which offers a job or atleast completes the ATPL training.

Thank you

hid3 12th Oct 2023 17:01

Don't start pilot training, don't waste your money.
Why one might want to invest 10s of thousands into a profession now which will guarantee you unemployment?

gigachad 12th Oct 2023 19:07


Originally Posted by aviatorfr (Post 11519551)
Dear Gigachad and all members,
Thank you for your post related to information on Cadet pilot program, I would like to request your kind advice on the cadet pilot training in Europe or outside ?
Please advise which cadet training program will be good which offers a job or atleast completes the ATPL training.

Thank you

ca va my friend.
If your intention is to work in europe i recommend european ones. EASA license is highly valued.
The cadet programs I recommend are the ones where the airline financially invests in your training either partially of fully and these are for example: Aer lingus future pilot program, British airways speed bird academy, TUI free MPL, Wizz air pilot academy.
When the airline puts money from their own pocket, they are less likely to let you go and kick you out. In my opinion these are the only real cadet programs with ' job guarantees' , the ones where you pay everything from your pocket are not.

The next best thing is to apply for free education via a university. I know that your country, France has ENAC. Many ex ussr and some nordic countries have this program in place, where you get a university degree and an atpl. This is great because now you will also have something to fall back on, incase you do remain unemployed.

If you must go down the private sector, keep in mind that these flight schools are businesses first and education institutions 2nd. Lies, deceit and scams are not uncommon to lure in clueless students, alot of them ask large sums of up front payment which releases them from the responsibility of providing quality or on-time training. I recommend to contact schools or aeroclubs which are run by pilots themselves, have look at their briefing rooms, training material and fleet. Keep in mind that school might claim 10 aircraft but in reality just fly 2. In short- go modular, do not pay upfront, research the school in depth- look where their students end up via linkedin, contact students and talk to them from different phases of training etc.

paying for integrated atpl with a cadet program doesn't give you any extra privilege. We saw this during times of crisis.

HQFL 26th Nov 2023 21:27

Dear Gigachad and all members,

i was interested in this academy but after the posts i saw mehhh maybe there is better schools so i need help choosing an acadmy im interested in intergrated path and preferably in spain/portugal but i have an open mind.

thanks.

XMV6 27th Nov 2023 08:33

Believe me. Avoid those gangsters from BAA and all Eastern EU. They will rob you.

BoeingLudo737 29th Nov 2023 10:40


Originally Posted by XMV6 (Post 11546670)
Believe me. Avoid those gangsters from BAA and all Eastern EU. They will rob you.

Totally agree. Very shady outfit and very poor quality of training

Warlock1 1st Dec 2023 10:50


Originally Posted by XMV6 (Post 11546670)
Believe me. Avoid those gangsters from BAA and all Eastern EU. They will rob you.

Eastern European companies almost always have the same fishing techniques:

”If you manage to pass all of the check rides, at the end, we will offer you:
- A job as an instructor
or
- Free line training
or
- FO position with the company we have an agreement with”

And 99.9% of the time, they will fail one of your check rides on something extremely none sense so that they fall back on the terms of the contract and kick you out without providing anything.
BAA is infamous when it comes to marketing and fishing stupid young kids. Whenever they wanna put an advertisement, they always start by naming themselves as one of the “Top 3 European flight school.” Who conducted that survey you ask? Well, their parent company of course 😆😆


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