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devic 24th Mar 2002 16:17

Thank you,. .. .My other curiosity: is the type rating taken for example in Czech Republic (of course according to the JAR) going to be valid in other JAR European countries?. .For example, is it going to be valid in Italy without any further exams or timbers from the local Civil Aviation Authority??

AYR521 24th Mar 2002 16:46

Czech Republic did not gain JAA Mutual Recognition yet so any kind of flight training performed there is not automatically recognised in the other JAA countries until they pass the JAA Audit.. .For the moment only Denmark,UK,Iceland,France,Switzerland,Netherlands,Sweden,Bel gium,Spain,and Finland obtained JAA Mutual Recognition.

easondown 24th Mar 2002 17:07

Stealth,. .. .In order to get the type rating endorsed on your licence, in this country, you don't need to do the line training. After the theory and sim training all you do are some circuits in the aircraft.

devic 24th Mar 2002 19:05

>AYR521 you wrote that " Czech Republic did not gain JAA Mutual Recognition yet, so any kind of flight training performed there is not automatically recognised in the other JAA countries until they pass the JAA Auditbut. " But at CSA they underlined that the course is conducted by (or under the supervision of) CAE Flight Crew Training, which is an approved TRTO according to JAR-FCL 1 regulations.This course is approved by the Joint Aviation Authorities (JAA) according to JAR-FCL 1 regulations. The full flight simulators used in this course are approved according to JAR-STD1A regulations and meet Level C or D requirements.. .So, I guess your information is not completely correct, but what is a JAA Auditbut?. .> onemorehold you wrote that "In order to get the type rating endorsed on your licence, in this country, you don't need to do the line training. After the theory and sim training all you do are some circuits in the aircraft. ". .About which country are you referring to? And about the circuits in the aircraft, can you be more precise, do I have to do an exact number of hours in the plane?

AYR521 24th Mar 2002 19:37

Which JAA aviation authority approved CAE Flight Crew Training TRTO?. .When a flight simulator is used for a type rating training a pilot with less than 500 hours flight time on similar types,or less than 1500 hours total flight time must complete at least 6 take-offs and landings.

Dutchie 24th Mar 2002 19:50

They are certified by the Dutch CAA.

easondown 24th Mar 2002 21:24

AYR521,. .. .Out of interest are you sure about your information (and where did you get it?) I have done several type ratings and have several thousand hours, but have always had to do circiuts in the aircraft after sim training in order to complete the type rating and have my licence endorsed.

AYR521 24th Mar 2002 21:34

I mean you need to complete 6 take-offs and landings on the aircraft after the simulator training.

dick badcock 24th Mar 2002 21:41

As far as I know, some programs can be approved as zero flight time conversions (depending on type of sim etc.) where (again, as far as I know) you need not do any circuits in the aircraft, but can do them all in the sim. As far as line training is concerned, this need not be included for purposes of obtaining a type rating, however most airlines include this as a lead up to your base relase or initial line check. But you have your rating a long time before you even fly with passengers (i.e. after your LST is passed and you have done your circuits). .. .But then, which airline is interested in a pilot who has a rating, but no hours!!!????. .. .--> AYR521, you can add Ireland to your list of JAA states with mutual recognition status, the IAA got their approval now just before Christmas (and I got a JAR FCL licence as a New Year's present!)

AYR521 24th Mar 2002 21:50

I am glad to learn that Ireland got mutual recognition status.My apologies!

pinguino 24th Mar 2002 22:32

It seems Panair of Palermo is selling 737 type rating courses still under old national rules so you don't need the jar-fcl frozen atpl. Price is 55mln itl liras if you already have a t/r or 75 mln if it's the first t/r, they are going to start in April.. .. . Please note that I'm not in any way involved with the above stated company so this is not an advertisement. I'm not recommending to do this course I just refer this news as I heard it (a rumor) so take it as is.. . . . <small>[ 24 March 2002, 18:52: Message edited by: pinguino ]</small>

LimaNovember 24th Mar 2002 22:34

And according to the Norwegian CAA they have passed the audit and are waiting for the letter with the seal on it.. .. .Swedish,. .. .why do you want to do with CSA?. . . . <small>[ 24 March 2002, 18:38: Message edited by: LimaNovember ]</small>

Stealth 25th Mar 2002 08:55

&gt;why do you want to do with CSA?. .I guess it is the money factor. Would you pay 22,000 pounds in UK or 22,000 USD with the CSA for the same course? The best option is to go to the US and do it for 9,995USD. Then you would have enough money left to buy some hours in the a/c.

devic 25th Mar 2002 10:05

Ok, can you tell me where can I find the type rating in the US and do for 9,995USD?. .. .Thanks!

pinguino 25th Mar 2002 15:49

Are you sure FAA type ratings are valid under JAA?. .I don't think so!. . . . <small>[ 25 March 2002, 15:22: Message edited by: pinguino ]</small>

Stealth 25th Mar 2002 18:53

Well, I am not familiar with JAA rules, however I think it is possible to bypass it. If Swedish has an Italian licence and ads a FAA type rating on it, he would need 500 hours in a multicrew environment in order to upgraded it to a JAA one. So, you can pay 10,000USD for a FAA type rating and use the remaining 15,000USD to purchase 500 hours of line training and you will be on top.

zoru 26th Mar 2002 01:50

Stealth. .. .Is it posible to get 500 hrs experience on 737 for 15000 usd ? I think there would be a lot of takers...

cool blue 26th Mar 2002 07:39

Swedish - how much is the CSA type rating?

devic 26th Mar 2002 12:51

Stealth,. .. .Please tell me the address of the training facility which provide 737 type ratings for that small amount of cash, it would be very useful to me.. .Thanks

Ballinthemiddle 26th Mar 2002 16:31

What a waste of money! no operator is going to give you a position on the 737 with no time experience on type, when there are hundreds of type rated guys on the market, with time on type.. .Save your money, If you really must part with a huge amount of cash, take up Ryanairs offer.


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