Type Rating - B737
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I honestly wouldn't bother. If you take that to serious airlines with no other flying on the 737 they won;t be happy just to line train you and be done with it. They'll more than likely need/want to put you through a familiar groundschool/sim course. Therefore you'll not save them any money and you may have been taught the wrong thing in the first place.
A lot of pain for not much gain I would say.
Perhaps focus on a type rating for a turboprop that will be cheaper and definitely get you a job with a UK regional. 2 years later you can look to larger airlines at your leisure.
My 2 cents.
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A lot of pain for not much gain I would say.
Perhaps focus on a type rating for a turboprop that will be cheaper and definitely get you a job with a UK regional. 2 years later you can look to larger airlines at your leisure.
My 2 cents.
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Most TP transport category turboprop typeratings are in the sae pricecategory as jet types. So it does not realy make a difference in that.
Do not get a type unless that is a prerequisite of employment. There is nothing as useless than a type you cannot use, money thrown away.
JJ
Do not get a type unless that is a prerequisite of employment. There is nothing as useless than a type you cannot use, money thrown away.
JJ
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Type Rating - B737
I'm hoping that someone can put some sense into this post.
First of all, I'm not a fan of self sponsored ratings especially not expensive ones. But the story is that I have been given a JAA B737 rating. Someone in my family gave it to me, and they want me to do the training this fall.
I know that a B737 rating itself isn't worth very much due to the fact of no or little experience on the type. My current experience is 1300 TT with about 800 MEL (C340 and PA31). PIC is 940 and SIC is 300. I have a JAA frozen ATPL, and MCC completed in september.
Is it realistic to get hired by one of the low budget airlines around Europe or should I reject the offer? I love my current job flying light twins, but I would be lying if I told you that I'm not interested.
Please give me some opinions on this!
First of all, I'm not a fan of self sponsored ratings especially not expensive ones. But the story is that I have been given a JAA B737 rating. Someone in my family gave it to me, and they want me to do the training this fall.
I know that a B737 rating itself isn't worth very much due to the fact of no or little experience on the type. My current experience is 1300 TT with about 800 MEL (C340 and PA31). PIC is 940 and SIC is 300. I have a JAA frozen ATPL, and MCC completed in september.
Is it realistic to get hired by one of the low budget airlines around Europe or should I reject the offer? I love my current job flying light twins, but I would be lying if I told you that I'm not interested.
Please give me some opinions on this!
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Say you are the Boss of xxxx low cost operator. You have to pick between two pilots.
1.Nice bloke, no type rating.
2.Nice bloke, type rating.
You have to, every month, go and justify your training costs to the MD. Who are you going to pick?
CCC.......ough
1.Nice bloke, no type rating.
2.Nice bloke, type rating.
You have to, every month, go and justify your training costs to the MD. Who are you going to pick?
CCC.......ough
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The airline I work for was not intrested in recruiting I guy I used to fly with despite him having a B757 rating. There is a guy on my fleet who had a rating with no time on type and he did the whole course again as far as I'm aware. Also I know a guy at easy who had a 737 rating with no type experience and he also did the whole course again complete with bond!!. Its is a gamble for sure, depends how rich your kind relative is.
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B737 , I'm sure your relative is well meaning, but I suspect knows virtually about aviation.A type rating with no experience is no help in getting a job.As has been mentioned on this thread, you would have to do the entire conversion course again, and be bonded. The fact that you had a type rating would not necessarily indicate to the airline that you had the aptitude to actually fly the aircraft, for all they know it might have taken you much longer than average to actually pass the course!
If your relative insists on spending this money on you, I'd either ask for a decent car, or possibly help in buying a house when you get the job you want.
It might be worth approaching the low cost operaters and asking to pay for your training in their training system,I'm sure they would love it, but as you are aware by the wording in your post, you won't be doing anybody a favour by going down that route.
With your hours, I feel that you will get another job without too much trouble, it just may not be on a jet type. There is a shortage of experienced pilots. It is true that with the right mix of experience/type rating all you need to do is pick up the phone, but to be in this happy state you need at least 3000-3500 hours, airline experience preferably with command time and at least 1000 hours on the type that your prospective new employer operates.
With your time you fall into the "employable" category, but unless you are very lucky you are more likely to get a turboprop job.
Unfortunately, despite what various flying schools tell people, there are many just-qualified pilots on the market, you don't fall into that category, and are currently flying commercially, which counts for a lot at the interview.
Finally , a word of advice I was given nearly 30 years ago, and has already been mentioned, it is always easier to get a job flying a small aircraft after you've flown a large one than it is to get the job flying the large aircraft. If you really don't enjoy flying a bigger aircraft, go back to piston twins, but you'll lose nothing by trying bigger!
If your relative insists on spending this money on you, I'd either ask for a decent car, or possibly help in buying a house when you get the job you want.
It might be worth approaching the low cost operaters and asking to pay for your training in their training system,I'm sure they would love it, but as you are aware by the wording in your post, you won't be doing anybody a favour by going down that route.
With your hours, I feel that you will get another job without too much trouble, it just may not be on a jet type. There is a shortage of experienced pilots. It is true that with the right mix of experience/type rating all you need to do is pick up the phone, but to be in this happy state you need at least 3000-3500 hours, airline experience preferably with command time and at least 1000 hours on the type that your prospective new employer operates.
With your time you fall into the "employable" category, but unless you are very lucky you are more likely to get a turboprop job.
Unfortunately, despite what various flying schools tell people, there are many just-qualified pilots on the market, you don't fall into that category, and are currently flying commercially, which counts for a lot at the interview.
Finally , a word of advice I was given nearly 30 years ago, and has already been mentioned, it is always easier to get a job flying a small aircraft after you've flown a large one than it is to get the job flying the large aircraft. If you really don't enjoy flying a bigger aircraft, go back to piston twins, but you'll lose nothing by trying bigger!
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It all depends on your age really. If you are pushing on in life your best chance may be to take the type rating and then keep hammering on the doors of the 73 operators. Easy have several 'starters' going through type courses every month at present. I used to know an instructor who had 1000+ hours who paid for a 73 rating back in about 1997 who got a job pretty quickly with Virgin Express. He was 39 then!
If you're still young, which I'm guessing you are, why on earth haven't you been pushing the regionals? I know for a fact that British Regional have been crying out for people with your kind of hours on twins to put straight onto the ATP and on to the Barbie Jet within 12-18months. The regionals are desparate due to the 'Easies' of this world recruiting all their experienced(1 or 2 years) F/O's.
So come on, stop wondering if you need to accept or decline this wonderful offer of manner from heaven, get out there and get yourself that F/O seat and use the cash towards and Audi TT!!!!!!!!!
Best of luck(not that you need much more!)
PP
If you're still young, which I'm guessing you are, why on earth haven't you been pushing the regionals? I know for a fact that British Regional have been crying out for people with your kind of hours on twins to put straight onto the ATP and on to the Barbie Jet within 12-18months. The regionals are desparate due to the 'Easies' of this world recruiting all their experienced(1 or 2 years) F/O's.
So come on, stop wondering if you need to accept or decline this wonderful offer of manner from heaven, get out there and get yourself that F/O seat and use the cash towards and Audi TT!!!!!!!!!
Best of luck(not that you need much more!)
PP
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Forget the 73 type rating. All decent UK operators will want you to got through their own course anyway. Talk to the regionals - with your experience you should have no difficulty getting a TP RHS. Brit Regional being a good bet...
Good luck,
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Good luck,
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Another problem with doing the type rating and then going to someone like BRAL for a job they might think you are only using them as a springboard to other things.As already mentioned if your relative really wants to help,explain how the situation is in aviation.Help towards housing if you have to relocate could be just as helpful.
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