Owning a light aircraft in the UK
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Just seen your reply to one of the postings on prune.
I am in a somewhat similar position to the guy who posted. I don't want to let enthusiasm get in the way of basic common business sense.
It seems like you have a good answer to get some fun flying in without losing too much money on the investment. What is a PA38 (excuse me being barand new to this) I have flown C152 C172 and PA28 - just got my ticket! I am looking for a way to get some gauranteed flying in without having ot worry about getting hold of a plane and booking the time etc. I really need at least a four seater as I want to take people up and split the cost. Please let me know the company you use. That will certainly do as a starting point.
Is there a time limit on how long you get the plane for in order to do the hours you have leased? Also, how well equiped are they (GPS, etc.)?
Thanks for any help
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Thanks
Wyatt
[This message has been edited by Wyatt Anderson (edited 05 April 2001).]
Just seen your reply to one of the postings on prune.
I am in a somewhat similar position to the guy who posted. I don't want to let enthusiasm get in the way of basic common business sense.
It seems like you have a good answer to get some fun flying in without losing too much money on the investment. What is a PA38 (excuse me being barand new to this) I have flown C152 C172 and PA28 - just got my ticket! I am looking for a way to get some gauranteed flying in without having ot worry about getting hold of a plane and booking the time etc. I really need at least a four seater as I want to take people up and split the cost. Please let me know the company you use. That will certainly do as a starting point.
Is there a time limit on how long you get the plane for in order to do the hours you have leased? Also, how well equiped are they (GPS, etc.)?
Thanks for any help
[email protected]
Thanks
Wyatt
[This message has been edited by Wyatt Anderson (edited 05 April 2001).]
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VW Engine Single seater
I am also interested in this idea. I am a first rate engineer (built my own racing bikes for many years (my life often depended on the quality of my engineering)) and would like to have a plane that did not cost an arm and a leg to either buy or maintain.
2/4 SEATERS
Are there any two seaters that are cheap to run and allow you to maintain them yourself?
HOUR LOGING
How do you log the hours once you have got your own plane? If you are hour building, what is to stop people saying they have done more than they have? Especially if they are just taking off from farms and such like? I say this as I am trying to get to the bottom of a storey I heard - please help.
Thank you for any replies.
[email protected]
[This message has been edited by Wyatt Anderson (edited 05 April 2001).]
I am also interested in this idea. I am a first rate engineer (built my own racing bikes for many years (my life often depended on the quality of my engineering)) and would like to have a plane that did not cost an arm and a leg to either buy or maintain.
2/4 SEATERS
Are there any two seaters that are cheap to run and allow you to maintain them yourself?
HOUR LOGING
How do you log the hours once you have got your own plane? If you are hour building, what is to stop people saying they have done more than they have? Especially if they are just taking off from farms and such like? I say this as I am trying to get to the bottom of a storey I heard - please help.
Thank you for any replies.
[email protected]
[This message has been edited by Wyatt Anderson (edited 05 April 2001).]
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If you've been building bicycles, I'd suggest you may well be a first rate technician. Apologies if you think I'm being picky, but a degree, 2 years further training, and 2 years in a position of engineering responsibility is what the Engineering council thinks makes an Engineer, and I agree with them.
Being less picky, if you want to fly for fun, keep the costs down, and are happy with a 2-seater, buy something on a permit. There are 2-seaters out there for under £5k which will cost you under £20/hr to run. Basically look at the PFA and BMAA - stick to the PFA if you want to hourbuild on it since microlight hours don't count for a CPL / ATPL by and large.
Equipment is usually basic, but there's nothing to stop you fitting anything you like - either association will charge a nominal fee (£30 - £50) for approval of the fit. I have seen "airways equipped" permit aircraft, but since you can't legally fly IMC or night on a permit, it's up to you whether you think this is worth the bother. You can of-course practice IFR in VMC in a permit aircraft.
On a permit you can do your own maintenance, subject to certain checks (both require an independent annual inspection and check flight, and a second check if you do any work on primary structure, powerplant or flying controls). I would point out however that an aeroplane is a tad more complex than a racing bike!
The hours you log, both in your logbook and the aircraft's depend upon your own basic honesty. Anybody lacking that should, in my opinion, seek another occupation.
G
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Being less picky, if you want to fly for fun, keep the costs down, and are happy with a 2-seater, buy something on a permit. There are 2-seaters out there for under £5k which will cost you under £20/hr to run. Basically look at the PFA and BMAA - stick to the PFA if you want to hourbuild on it since microlight hours don't count for a CPL / ATPL by and large.
Equipment is usually basic, but there's nothing to stop you fitting anything you like - either association will charge a nominal fee (£30 - £50) for approval of the fit. I have seen "airways equipped" permit aircraft, but since you can't legally fly IMC or night on a permit, it's up to you whether you think this is worth the bother. You can of-course practice IFR in VMC in a permit aircraft.
On a permit you can do your own maintenance, subject to certain checks (both require an independent annual inspection and check flight, and a second check if you do any work on primary structure, powerplant or flying controls). I would point out however that an aeroplane is a tad more complex than a racing bike!
The hours you log, both in your logbook and the aircraft's depend upon your own basic honesty. Anybody lacking that should, in my opinion, seek another occupation.
G
[This message has been edited by Genghis the Engineer (edited 06 April 2001).]
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The PA38 is a Piper Tomohawk. 2 seater, high "T" tail. The fit on it varies as much as any other light aircraft.
The company that I am dealing with are called Cedair Aviation Tel:01296 748622/07802 701060
He appeared quite flexible in accomodating my needs, give him a call.
Don't forget you will need somewhere to keep it during the lease!
The PA38 is a Piper Tomohawk. 2 seater, high "T" tail. The fit on it varies as much as any other light aircraft.
The company that I am dealing with are called Cedair Aviation Tel:01296 748622/07802 701060
He appeared quite flexible in accomodating my needs, give him a call.
Don't forget you will need somewhere to keep it during the lease!
