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Colin,
I think you should go back to 'Daddy' and say 'Daddy' there Ganging up on me what shall I say now. He'll probably say " Don't worry son, we had Mods in the 60's and they all had scooters" there you go son you can have a Big Chopper.
Nuf sed. Pleese excuse the spilling, but I'm only a Mod.
D.J.
I think you should go back to 'Daddy' and say 'Daddy' there Ganging up on me what shall I say now. He'll probably say " Don't worry son, we had Mods in the 60's and they all had scooters" there you go son you can have a Big Chopper.
Nuf sed. Pleese excuse the spilling, but I'm only a Mod.
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**slaps monk-person with dead trout**
hm hm, didn't Bristol "woop" everyones ass last year with ATPL scores? (Bristols are solely distance learning btw!)
Monk-person......
Your in the wrong forum mate, this is for pilots/wannabes.
hm hm, didn't Bristol "woop" everyones ass last year with ATPL scores? (Bristols are solely distance learning btw!)
Monk-person......
Your in the wrong forum mate, this is for pilots/wannabes.
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Oh dear, oh dear - despite several fairly blatant giveaways quite a few people seem to have taken the bait.
A former librarian who can't even spell???
Library life too fraught 
- yeah, sure! And what's a "conservationalist" - the word is conservationist even in the US. Nobody except the terminally stupid can't spell their own job title!!
As for the name Colin Monkfish, it could just be a handle but it sure ain't their real name - Monkfish is an extremely rare surname, if there are any at all. Alternatively it could just be another blatant hint - the monkfish is also known as the anglerfish because of the way it attracts its prey. Dangle the bait and reel 'em in...
as a former librarian and profficient at deciphering information
Library life was too fraught I am now a data conservationalist
- yeah, sure! And what's a "conservationalist" - the word is conservationist even in the US. Nobody except the terminally stupid can't spell their own job title!!As for the name Colin Monkfish, it could just be a handle but it sure ain't their real name - Monkfish is an extremely rare surname, if there are any at all. Alternatively it could just be another blatant hint - the monkfish is also known as the anglerfish because of the way it attracts its prey. Dangle the bait and reel 'em in...
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As one of the accused I feel that I should treat this thread seriously, although I cannot see how it could be anything but a wind up. Here goes.
Colin, although I work for an FTO I do not post anything at the request of my employers, I post my opinions as a private individual. I also have the unique position of having sat an entire JAA course to frozen ATPL, so have seen that view and believe I have something to add, those that disagree may freely ignore me as I am sure many do. I have been posting since I was in groundschool as a student (originally under the name a_random, if you wish to check any of this!) and have been consistent in my comments on learning routes and my opinions of FTOs, even before I worked for the two I have worked for.
Every time I post concerning modular and integrated courses I mention I work for a modular course provider and most importantly I give reasons for my views, argument in their favour. This is the case with most of those you seek to criticise, even those with whom I disagree generally back their statements.
You have not advanced a single argument to support your case, your assertions. You have just posted your view as fact, and it shows very litte knowledge of the system let alone backing for your judgement.
Admit it - you just made this up. For a start distance learning is not the only alternative to integrated, your nephew could study full-time on a modular course. The course is the same length, examined to the same standards with schools inspected by the same people against the same criteria. In some schools the same instructors teach the same course to integrated and modular students.
More importantly we advise that only the brightest, most able students sit distance learning by choice, that others should study full-time if they can afford to leave their jobs. Others struggle, and I am impressed with those (like FFF) who do well on this basis.
Integrated courses are designed as a sausage factory, to get as many as possible of those that start the course out with licences in the fixed time, minimum disruption and extra cost. That is how they should be, that is why the airlines use them, they tend to be good at it.
The only person I know personally who has posted here is currenty enrolled as a student in an FTO. I see it as disgracefully rude to assume he and the others here are lying without any attempt to justify your claim.
Your correction of someone's spelling was not called for. That is not popular here. If you do it make sure your grammar is not pitifully poor.
My suggestion is that your nephew go visit a few schools, of different specialisations (a couple of integrated, some modular perhaps some that do groundschool some that just do the flying, some distance learning groundschool only). Let him talk to people, get advice, talk to students, find the feel of each school. Let him look at the options without his view being coloured by your partiality. Let him look here, without you commenting from a position of ignorance. Then he may find the route that is right for him.
Colin, although I work for an FTO I do not post anything at the request of my employers, I post my opinions as a private individual. I also have the unique position of having sat an entire JAA course to frozen ATPL, so have seen that view and believe I have something to add, those that disagree may freely ignore me as I am sure many do. I have been posting since I was in groundschool as a student (originally under the name a_random, if you wish to check any of this!) and have been consistent in my comments on learning routes and my opinions of FTOs, even before I worked for the two I have worked for.
Every time I post concerning modular and integrated courses I mention I work for a modular course provider and most importantly I give reasons for my views, argument in their favour. This is the case with most of those you seek to criticise, even those with whom I disagree generally back their statements.
You have not advanced a single argument to support your case, your assertions. You have just posted your view as fact, and it shows very litte knowledge of the system let alone backing for your judgement.
no substitute for integrated training which is designed for the brighter and more able student
More importantly we advise that only the brightest, most able students sit distance learning by choice, that others should study full-time if they can afford to leave their jobs. Others struggle, and I am impressed with those (like FFF) who do well on this basis.
Integrated courses are designed as a sausage factory, to get as many as possible of those that start the course out with licences in the fixed time, minimum disruption and extra cost. That is how they should be, that is why the airlines use them, they tend to be good at it.
I think you must all be from training schools
Be perceptive, think impartiality
My suggestion is that your nephew go visit a few schools, of different specialisations (a couple of integrated, some modular perhaps some that do groundschool some that just do the flying, some distance learning groundschool only). Let him talk to people, get advice, talk to students, find the feel of each school. Let him look at the options without his view being coloured by your partiality. Let him look here, without you commenting from a position of ignorance. Then he may find the route that is right for him.
Colin the ATPL exams are the same for all. If you can pass them via distance learning then you have probably had to work harder than by attending a full time groundschool.
I did correspondence course myself and went on to work for BAe Jerez where I taught many students all of whom were following a full time groundschool.
Your posting was so crass that it illicited strong replies. I myself can't decide whether you are a wind up artist or not.
WWW
I did correspondence course myself and went on to work for BAe Jerez where I taught many students all of whom were following a full time groundschool.
Your posting was so crass that it illicited strong replies. I myself can't decide whether you are a wind up artist or not.
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Hello!
Some of you have been mentioning the 'Brighter and More Able Student', and well, speak of the Devil, and here I am!
Shurely this bright and able chap/chapess will be bright enough to spot that his ability will brightly shine through whichever route he/she chooses? And the VERY brightest and MOST able will realise that, as they will perform well anyway, will take the less expensive option. Leaving more money spare for computer games, trainers, and FI ratings. And pink gin.
Ho, hum! You pays your money (£30-£60k, it's up to you), and takes yer' choice!
Ciao!
CC
Some of you have been mentioning the 'Brighter and More Able Student', and well, speak of the Devil, and here I am!
Shurely this bright and able chap/chapess will be bright enough to spot that his ability will brightly shine through whichever route he/she chooses? And the VERY brightest and MOST able will realise that, as they will perform well anyway, will take the less expensive option. Leaving more money spare for computer games, trainers, and FI ratings. And pink gin.
Ho, hum! You pays your money (£30-£60k, it's up to you), and takes yer' choice!
Ciao!
CC
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Yes, it should! It's not April 1st, is it? You guys have been well and truly suckered in to a monumental wind-up. Well done, 'Colin'! Propounding deeply controversial views on Wannabes the day you register? Excellent!
Claiming to be an ex-librarian (who left because 'library life was too fraught'!) and pulling people up on their spelling while demonstrating a slender grasp of the English language was a master stroke, but I think my favorite bit was the listing of 'aircraft spotting and draughts' as interests! Did no-one else read his profile?
I have an inkling who this might be, but I shall have to do a bit of digging... stand by for any revelations I can dig up!
Scroggs
Claiming to be an ex-librarian (who left because 'library life was too fraught'!) and pulling people up on their spelling while demonstrating a slender grasp of the English language was a master stroke, but I think my favorite bit was the listing of 'aircraft spotting and draughts' as interests! Did no-one else read his profile?
I have an inkling who this might be, but I shall have to do a bit of digging... stand by for any revelations I can dig up!
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Im a modular student (distance learning) as I am doing a full time job as a Project/systems engineer at the same time and I got my results for module 1 today.
Mass &Balance 97%
Instruments 93%
Flt Planning 95%
Gen. Nav 93%
MET 85%
HPL 96%
VFR Comm 91%
IFR Comm 91%
this must mean everybody who did intergrated must have almost achieved 100%, nice one.
Mint
Mass &Balance 97%
Instruments 93%
Flt Planning 95%
Gen. Nav 93%
MET 85%
HPL 96%
VFR Comm 91%
IFR Comm 91%
this must mean everybody who did intergrated must have almost achieved 100%, nice one.
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Whatever they achieved, let me take this oppotunity to pass on my congratulations 
Smooth skies, and the best of luck.
Dan
p.s - no one answered my question a couple threads up
Smooth skies, and the best of luck.
Dan
p.s - no one answered my question a couple threads up
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I would now like to finally lay this topic to rest.
On my continued search for my nephew I came across the GAPAN article, 'So you want to be a pilot'.
It states here
"It is generally accpeted the best route to becoming a professional pilot is by way of INTEGRATED training at an accepted JAR FCL aprroved FTO"
If GAPAN states this then (I am sorry for anyone who has contrary views), this is surely proof enough. My only hope now is that those on modular courses accept the fact they are not as sought after or highly regarded as the Integrated student.
Case Closed
On my continued search for my nephew I came across the GAPAN article, 'So you want to be a pilot'.
It states here
"It is generally accpeted the best route to becoming a professional pilot is by way of INTEGRATED training at an accepted JAR FCL aprroved FTO"
If GAPAN states this then (I am sorry for anyone who has contrary views), this is surely proof enough. My only hope now is that those on modular courses accept the fact they are not as sought after or highly regarded as the Integrated student.
Case Closed
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It proves nothing mate.
As I Quote
"I really think this channel is no substitute for integrated training which is designed for the brighter and more able student. Surely its these people we want in aviation".
This comment is seriously out of order and obviously you have not listened to the comments made since. Please remove this annoying thread once and for all.
If your Nephew is so bright why are you doing all the research??
Mint
As I Quote
"I really think this channel is no substitute for integrated training which is designed for the brighter and more able student. Surely its these people we want in aviation".
This comment is seriously out of order and obviously you have not listened to the comments made since. Please remove this annoying thread once and for all.
If your Nephew is so bright why are you doing all the research??
Mint