Night rating flying in USA, issue in UK.
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Night rating flying in USA, issue in UK.
Has anyone experienced difficulty applying for a UK night rating on a CAA PPL having done the 5 hours of night flying in the US?
I flew all the requirmentas for a night rating recently in the USA but am concerned that it won't count because it wasn;t conducted by a CAA CFI or strictly in accordance with JAR FCL 1.
Any comments gratefully received.
Skips
I flew all the requirmentas for a night rating recently in the USA but am concerned that it won't count because it wasn;t conducted by a CAA CFI or strictly in accordance with JAR FCL 1.
Any comments gratefully received.
Skips
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Hi,
Have you actually done whats needed for the issue of a CAA night rating? The requirements to fly at night under the FAA rules are different, as the FAA doesn't have an official night rating. If you've done the 5 hours at night, send it off, and see what the CAA say.
ickle
Have you actually done whats needed for the issue of a CAA night rating? The requirements to fly at night under the FAA rules are different, as the FAA doesn't have an official night rating. If you've done the 5 hours at night, send it off, and see what the CAA say.
ickle
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juswonnafly, what is the CAA requirement then? When you say 'it CAN be taught in the US' does that still mean by a CAA/JAA CFI?
You see, I did 3 hrs dual night with an FAA instructor, then got signed off for night solo on my FAA student pilot certificate and did all the requirements, (ie. 1hr nav, 5 full stops, 1 departure and rejoin and the 5hrs sim IR).
If I have fullfiled the basic flying requiremnts and am competent then isn't that enough? If I remember rightly, the CAA said they would be happy to issue a multi when I asked them about doing the training in France in french, as long as I did the right number of hours. The fact that the instructor was French didn't seem to bother them.
This is one to check with the CAA I fear!
skips
You see, I did 3 hrs dual night with an FAA instructor, then got signed off for night solo on my FAA student pilot certificate and did all the requirements, (ie. 1hr nav, 5 full stops, 1 departure and rejoin and the 5hrs sim IR).
If I have fullfiled the basic flying requiremnts and am competent then isn't that enough? If I remember rightly, the CAA said they would be happy to issue a multi when I asked them about doing the training in France in french, as long as I did the right number of hours. The fact that the instructor was French didn't seem to bother them.
This is one to check with the CAA I fear!
skips
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Your night rating is probably your cheapest rating. If you're considering becoming a professional pilot then you need all the night flying you can get.
I really don't know but I would go along with comments that the training needs to be conducted by CAA instructors like me. Only problem is that there's only a handful of places in UK which do night flying.
Good luck
I really don't know but I would go along with comments that the training needs to be conducted by CAA instructors like me. Only problem is that there's only a handful of places in UK which do night flying.
Good luck
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Skippy,
A friend of mine (UK CAA FI) with an American night rating was still made to do the full JAA course for his night rating.
Only 5 hours now (3 dual, 1 x-c, 5 f.stops) and no inst requirement.
I agree, check with CAA as they do seem to have 'flexible' goalposts.
Cheers
JWF
A friend of mine (UK CAA FI) with an American night rating was still made to do the full JAA course for his night rating.
Only 5 hours now (3 dual, 1 x-c, 5 f.stops) and no inst requirement.
I agree, check with CAA as they do seem to have 'flexible' goalposts.
Cheers
JWF
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In case any one was wondering, the caa said all the info was on their site. I found this, which is interesting: (non more instrument requirement)
Ratings/Endorsements - Night Rating: Are there any changes to obtaining and
maintaining a Night Rating?
The night rating is now known as a Night Qualification, and the training requirement andchanges are as follows:
AEROPLANES:
5 hours night flying in aeroplanes, to include 3 hours dual ( including 1 hour navigation training) and 5 solo take-offs and full stop landings.The training may be completed at any time, and can now be completed as part of theJAR-FCL PPL(A) course.
The minimum flying experience before starting the course has been removed. The instrument
flying instruction has been removed.
Ratings/Endorsements - Night Rating: Can I transfer my night rating from my non-UK licence?
Yes, providing that you have met the minimum requirements for the new Night Qualification
detailed below. The PPL(A) Night Qualification requirements must include a minimum of 5 hours night flying training (including 3 hours night dual instruction, to include 1 hour of cross-country navigation, and 5 solo take-offs and full-stop landings.
So, it sounds like since I have done the required flying no mtatter where it was, I should be able to get a UK night qual.
I'll let you know if it works!
skips
Ratings/Endorsements - Night Rating: Are there any changes to obtaining and
maintaining a Night Rating?
The night rating is now known as a Night Qualification, and the training requirement andchanges are as follows:
AEROPLANES:
5 hours night flying in aeroplanes, to include 3 hours dual ( including 1 hour navigation training) and 5 solo take-offs and full stop landings.The training may be completed at any time, and can now be completed as part of theJAR-FCL PPL(A) course.
The minimum flying experience before starting the course has been removed. The instrument
flying instruction has been removed.
Ratings/Endorsements - Night Rating: Can I transfer my night rating from my non-UK licence?
Yes, providing that you have met the minimum requirements for the new Night Qualification
detailed below. The PPL(A) Night Qualification requirements must include a minimum of 5 hours night flying training (including 3 hours night dual instruction, to include 1 hour of cross-country navigation, and 5 solo take-offs and full-stop landings.
So, it sounds like since I have done the required flying no mtatter where it was, I should be able to get a UK night qual.
I'll let you know if it works!
skips
