JAR Pilot Licence
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Did a few British accents sneak into Australian aviation when everyone was on strike back when?
I am sure that if Australia had colonised the UK things would be very different. In your favour? Well, you are more than welcome to convert your licenses to Oz/NZ and try to get a job with 200hrs. Im also not sure how many 'type rated' pilots are coming from Dunnunda. More experienced than the average Wannabe? Definately.
The UK ancestry visa DOES NOT give British citizenship. I wont go into the details.
MAX
I am sure that if Australia had colonised the UK things would be very different. In your favour? Well, you are more than welcome to convert your licenses to Oz/NZ and try to get a job with 200hrs. Im also not sure how many 'type rated' pilots are coming from Dunnunda. More experienced than the average Wannabe? Definately.
The UK ancestry visa DOES NOT give British citizenship. I wont go into the details.
MAX
I say there boy
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The Ancestry Visa is a four year residency and work permit. After this Citizenship is pretty much automatic if you stay in employment and on the right side of the law - I have several 'old Commonwealth' friends who have got their UK Citizenship via the Ancestry Visa route.
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The matter seems even simpler to me.
The whole problem arises from simple lack of JAA member countries to set in effect JAR rules. So the only countries I know which already adopted JAR are Switzerland (yes among the first ones) Scandinavia and the U.K.
All Flight Training organisations train for JAR (which by all means should be in effect for at least 2 years by now) which is a logic conclusion as it is only a matter of time that all JAA countries should adopt the JAR requirements. Then any pilot holder of a JAR license and able to fulfill the local airlines requirements such as language can work everywhere.
As the markets for JAR pilots are relatively small (Switzerland is full for years) all go to the U.K. or elsewhere their JAR license is accepted without a conversion to a national ATPL.
So - don't blame the pilots affluing to these islands of JAR paradise but blame all the governments for not adhering to the dates promised on ratification of JAR regulations which for all central european countries where fixed for long ago (1999 - 2001 for most of them)!
The whole problem arises from simple lack of JAA member countries to set in effect JAR rules. So the only countries I know which already adopted JAR are Switzerland (yes among the first ones) Scandinavia and the U.K.
All Flight Training organisations train for JAR (which by all means should be in effect for at least 2 years by now) which is a logic conclusion as it is only a matter of time that all JAA countries should adopt the JAR requirements. Then any pilot holder of a JAR license and able to fulfill the local airlines requirements such as language can work everywhere.
As the markets for JAR pilots are relatively small (Switzerland is full for years) all go to the U.K. or elsewhere their JAR license is accepted without a conversion to a national ATPL.
So - don't blame the pilots affluing to these islands of JAR paradise but blame all the governments for not adhering to the dates promised on ratification of JAR regulations which for all central european countries where fixed for long ago (1999 - 2001 for most of them)!
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Ancestry Visa is valid 4 years. In this time you cannot leave the UK for more than a total combined time of 6mths or for one period of 3months. Not a lot if you are a traveller. After four years you recieve 'leave for indefinate remain'. This is not British Citizenship. After a further period of 12 months you may than apply for citizenship. Until very recently the Australian government would make you forfit your Australian citizenship if you gained British citizenship (no dual nationality). Effectively making you a Brit with just as much right to a job in the UK/Europe as anyone else.
Now I wonder how I know that?
MAX
Now I wonder how I know that?
MAX
I say there boy
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I think you're splitting hairs a bit, MAX, everyone who I know who has been through the process has said that Citizenship is pretty much automatic, and is considered so, in fact one mate currently sitting two places to my left has his paperwork in at the moment, having just signed his life away to Auntie Bettie and her descendents. It's just a case of doing your time as it were, and the citizenship is yours.
The Aussie government may have until recently had a hangup about dual nationality, but other countries (NZ and SA for instance) don't.
Add in the fact that there are so many second generation Brits in Oz and it explains why you get lots of Aussie accents in G-Reg aircraft but less (say) Mongolian accents, which was my original point.
cheers!
foggy.
The Aussie government may have until recently had a hangup about dual nationality, but other countries (NZ and SA for instance) don't.
Add in the fact that there are so many second generation Brits in Oz and it explains why you get lots of Aussie accents in G-Reg aircraft but less (say) Mongolian accents, which was my original point.
cheers!
foggy.
