Training in the USA - Visa and TSA Requirements
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From: The Sand
CFI rating-M1 visa
anybody know of any schools that allow students on a M1 visa to work as a flight instructor and actually get paid at same time (and yes,I know that its not allowed with this visa but just wondering anyway)
gazman21
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From: EGYD
No and I don't think must people would do so and if they did there is no way their about to admit it here! If your going to do it you can do it on a J1 Visa (student/exchange visa) If you get caught working on an M1 Visa without the proper privileges as well you are liable to refused entry to the US in the future as well.
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From: Alles uber der Platz
USA VISA (if Employed?)
Hi All,
Trawling through the various Visa threads has given me a good starting point, however, the question I have is this:
Is there anything else you have to do/attain if your employer is sending you to the USA for training as opposed to training privately. Bearing in mind that I will be in the emloyment of a Brit firm and being paid to do the training by them . Does this make a difference?
Or will the M1 visa suffice?
Looking at doing a JAA Type rating (less than 12,500lbs) at Flightsafety.
Cheers
L'
Trawling through the various Visa threads has given me a good starting point, however, the question I have is this:
Is there anything else you have to do/attain if your employer is sending you to the USA for training as opposed to training privately. Bearing in mind that I will be in the emloyment of a Brit firm and being paid to do the training by them . Does this make a difference?
Or will the M1 visa suffice?
Looking at doing a JAA Type rating (less than 12,500lbs) at Flightsafety.
Cheers
L'
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From: GA, USA
Would help if we know what airplane you'll be training on.
With this scarce info I would say an M1 is enough.
Did you check ;
www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
TSA website.
With this scarce info I would say an M1 is enough.
Did you check ;
www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
TSA website.
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From: Alles uber der Platz
Hi B2N2,
The aircraft will be a Sikorsky S76C.
I currently hold a JAA/CAA CPL(H) IR and am looking to add the S76C type rating that will required by my new employer. The employer is paying for the training.
Cheers
L'
The aircraft will be a Sikorsky S76C.
I currently hold a JAA/CAA CPL(H) IR and am looking to add the S76C type rating that will required by my new employer. The employer is paying for the training.
Cheers
L'
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From: Norwich, CT USA
Good for you on the S-76. Your Employer and Flight Safety will make sure all the paper work is in order. Flight Safety dose this stuff all the time. Why don't you just contact Palm Beach and ask if its keeping you up at night.
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From: City Of London
US Visa re-issue
I'm not entirley sure if anyone can help me with this question, but while I'm at work, I thought I'd give Pprune a shot first!
I was due to begin a course of study in the US last July, but due to illness, I had to cancel it at the last moment. Now, having made a full recovery, I am thinking of shipping myself out there again, to the same school. However, I might be doing a different or the same course, I have not decided yet.
Will I need to go through the TSA approval once again???
Will I need a new visa issued, or will the unused one I currently have suffice???
I don't know how these official visa things work, but I am very concious of their cost!!!!!!
Thanks in advance!
I was due to begin a course of study in the US last July, but due to illness, I had to cancel it at the last moment. Now, having made a full recovery, I am thinking of shipping myself out there again, to the same school. However, I might be doing a different or the same course, I have not decided yet.
Will I need to go through the TSA approval once again???
Will I need a new visa issued, or will the unused one I currently have suffice???
I don't know how these official visa things work, but I am very concious of their cost!!!!!!
Thanks in advance!
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From: Pub
Visa
I called to the embassy in dublin today to get some info about a visa, i had to talk to some chap through a speaker thing and i couldnt hear a word he was sayin! So hopefully someone here can help me....
Basically im headin off to naples next year for the CPP and was wondering how long before should i start organising my visa? What is involved in it, costs, do i need to book a return flight...etc...
Cheers
Danny
Basically im headin off to naples next year for the CPP and was wondering how long before should i start organising my visa? What is involved in it, costs, do i need to book a return flight...etc...
Cheers
Danny
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From: The Sand
Transfering M1 visa. . .
Hi does anybody know the lowdown on transferring a M1 visa from one flight school to another? I have heard rumours that it cant be done if you have spent 6 months+ at the school where you had your M1 initally issued for. . . .Anybody with info about transferring please fill me in!
Thanks in advance
gazman21
Thanks in advance
gazman21
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From: Orlando, Florida
It can be done immediately - and takes 30 seconds.
Tell the school that issues your visa that you wish to transfer.
They DO NOT have the right to terminate your visa if you tell them you want to transfer to a competitor (if they threaten to do so then YOU must call the SEVIS helpline [google!!] and tell "Immigration" what the school said or did).
The visa issuing people at the school you wish to leave need only to enter your file on the SEVIS website and click on "transfer out".
The school you want to go to should click on their records and click "transfer in".
Job done.
Tell the school that issues your visa that you wish to transfer.
They DO NOT have the right to terminate your visa if you tell them you want to transfer to a competitor (if they threaten to do so then YOU must call the SEVIS helpline [google!!] and tell "Immigration" what the school said or did).
The visa issuing people at the school you wish to leave need only to enter your file on the SEVIS website and click on "transfer out".
The school you want to go to should click on their records and click "transfer in".
Job done.
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From: UK
ICAO to FAA ATP - TSA & Visa
I started a thread titled ICAO to FAA ATP - TSA & Visa on the North American forum but am not getting much joy, so far. I am now wondering if it also applies to this forum, so here goes.
In summary, I am a British Citizen, and wish to go to the USA to get an FAA ATP ... I already have an ICAO ATPL. I am fully aware of the aviation requirements but am getting very conflicting information regarding TSA & Visa requirements.
If anyone has actually DONE it (thanks to everyone else but I have searched the web extensively, spoken to schools, the embassy etc), I would really appreciate hearing from you. The thread is at http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=198754
In summary, I am a British Citizen, and wish to go to the USA to get an FAA ATP ... I already have an ICAO ATPL. I am fully aware of the aviation requirements but am getting very conflicting information regarding TSA & Visa requirements.
If anyone has actually DONE it (thanks to everyone else but I have searched the web extensively, spoken to schools, the embassy etc), I would really appreciate hearing from you. The thread is at http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=198754
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From: Miami
J1 Visa(USA) and Part.61
Hy,
I have seen that most of the Professional Programs( from 0 to CFI) at US flight schools are under Part 141.
Does somebody know if it is possible to get this sort of training also under Part.61, or does it have to be a 141 approved course.
Appreciate any information.
regards,
sub
I have seen that most of the Professional Programs( from 0 to CFI) at US flight schools are under Part 141.
Does somebody know if it is possible to get this sort of training also under Part.61, or does it have to be a 141 approved course.
Appreciate any information.
regards,
sub
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From: UK
61/141
As far as I remember, Part 61 is the FAA version of the JAA Modular and 141 is Integrated. You can achieve 0 to CFI via either route. I am sure that any American flight school can give you all the information you need.
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From: Europe
I think that the school needs to be 141 approved in order to be able to sponsor any type of training visa.
If you attend a part 141 approved school you have the choice of training under either part 61 or 141.
If you attend a part 141 approved school you have the choice of training under either part 61 or 141.
Last edited by Martin1234; 23rd December 2005 at 01:05.
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From: UK
Re: ICAO to FAA ATP - TSA & Visa
Apologies for bringing this to the top again, but I am no further in getting an answer and I now need to get cracking on this. I am hoping that a non-USA national may have been to the USA to get an ATP (or perhaps a Com) since my last post. If anyone can help, it would be very much appreciated.
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From: Earth
Visa for FAA Type Rating?
As I'm aware of the TSA Requirement,
can anyone hint whether you need an M1 Visa to enter the states for a type rating since the TRTO that I'm in contact with state all students come over on a visa waiver as training is less than 90days.
Since you already have the licence and everything is simulator based, is this perfectly legal?
Thanks
can anyone hint whether you need an M1 Visa to enter the states for a type rating since the TRTO that I'm in contact with state all students come over on a visa waiver as training is less than 90days.
Since you already have the licence and everything is simulator based, is this perfectly legal?
Thanks
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From: big giant marshmellow
Speedbird744
For any training in the US you must go through the TSA on line application. In answer to your question NO you do not need a visa AS long as you have a return ticket booked with your arrival date and departure date as indicated on your on line TSA.
Your training provider has the latest updated information and so as long as your training is less than 90 days your ok. So yes it is fine and dandy.
Have fun
Mr W
For any training in the US you must go through the TSA on line application. In answer to your question NO you do not need a visa AS long as you have a return ticket booked with your arrival date and departure date as indicated on your on line TSA.
Your training provider has the latest updated information and so as long as your training is less than 90 days your ok. So yes it is fine and dandy.
Have fun
Mr W