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Old 2nd Dec 2002, 21:17
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So does anyone actually know whether Thomas Cook are offering the same terms and conditions as Easyjet?

Obviously CTC are taking applications for TC at the moment otherwise the option wouldn't have been there to submit an application to TC as well as Easyjet.

I just can't seem to find any information on the web about TC recruiting pilots.

Incidentally I had absolutely no trouble with the online application process. I thought the whole thing is quite well setup. The only minor grumble is that when I saved the application and went back to look at it later before submitting it I couldn't review the qualifications that I had entered, there just wasn't an option for it.

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Press the button

on your mouse PTF, as it hovers over the JMC logo floating across the CTC McAlpine website home page. Look here for the thread a couple of days ago titled something like "JMC sponsorship scheme". Do a search on PPRuNe for JMC. If all this fails, forget it; a technology based career is not your calling.
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Just wondering if anyone had the same issue as I'm having at the moment!! I was filling out the form when an error page came up and it would not let me revert back to the previous page, the only way out was to cancel the error and start again (new application no. given), but the program remembered my details and would not let me continue past page 1, I've tried to get into my original form but as I was not given a password before the form crashed, I can't enter it!! can anyone help?

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Old 2nd Dec 2002, 23:03
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I am having the same problem with my application. I filled in the first few pages and when it came to entering a password I choose one and entered it, when I clicked the 'next' button the page came up saying that it could not be displayed so I clicked the back button (only once) and it some how sent me back to the very start so I started filling in the application once again but at the end of the fist page it told me that these details match details already entered, there was an option that you could click on the link and it would send you your number and password so I did. I received an email telling me my number but the password was just blank. Now I can't access my details to finish them. And every time I send them an email I keep getting a delivery failure note.

Can anyone help me?

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Old 2nd Dec 2002, 23:50
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Thanks for your help tonyblair. Easy when you know how!

I even feel a little stupid...

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2 answers to questions asked above:

72 cadets a year - 6 per course per month
24 of the 72 are EZY cadets, 4 are JMC/Thomas Cook cadets and the remaining 44 are CTC cadets.

As for JMC/Thomas Cooks terms and conditions see:
www.thomascookpilots.com

Salaries about the same as EZY, bond still repaid over 7 years, only need to have passed 2 A-levels (3 for EZY) and can be up to 27 (25 for EZY).
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Old 3rd Dec 2002, 12:56
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Can someone answer me a question I have - (seeing as i cannot contact CTC for advice!)

The old education requirements - Say I get an email back for further Q&A's and am asked to send copies of exam results, having not really been through a selection process like this - how important do you reckon it is to send them when they request the copies?

With the short-time scale involved, and me living on the other side of the pond it is unlikely i would be able to get home to dig them out in time.

Has anyone been through this, and do you think i can continue on the basis i will get the copies to them ASAP or even bring them to the interview stage?

If you say that i probably won't progress any further untill i get them, ill guess ill have to throw a sickie leg it over.
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Old 3rd Dec 2002, 13:26
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FunnyOnion,

At a guess, I think you'll have to try to contact CTC and let them know. In specific circumstances they'll probably allow you more time to get them...but you will need to get them!

Anyone had an email back yet? I'm petrified I gave the wrong email address

Seeya,

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Old 3rd Dec 2002, 13:33
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With the timescales that are currently being issued by CTC and the volume of applicants that I assume will have applied, then I think that they will be quite rigorous with the selection process and the requirements, i.e. no medical cert, no proof of qualifications then in my opinion your application will be put to the side. You could try and call CTC but I imagine that you would be wasting your time.

Is there no way a generous family member could fax you or send you out the required documents by recorded delivery?

Anyway hope it works out

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Old 3rd Dec 2002, 13:38
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Cool

On the subject of the whole medical certificate issue, will a class 2 medical be sufficient?

If it is, then I'm going to have to go through the whole palava of either fishing it out from the bottom of a drawer somewhere or calling the CAA and getting a bloody replacement.

Never easy, is it?

Byesy bye
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You'd think with the exam certificates thing, common sense dictates that catching sight just of your most recent academic certificate would suffice as evidence. Logically, to do a postgraduate degree, you'll have been verified as having a proper first degree, and when you originally matriculated at University as an undergrad, they'll have verified your school record, and to gain A levels of course you'll need to have done the GCSEs. So why insist on seeing them all, up-front?

But, CTC-McAlphine can set whatever hurdles they want... all part of the sport... I'll just have to have a wee think about where on earth I might have 'filed' those old certificates...

Speedbird22 you should have received a receipt immediately upon submission, if you didn't get that then something is presumably wrong, or if you did then obviously they have the correct email address.
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Old 3rd Dec 2002, 15:25
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Speedbird

I intend (if I get that far) to send a copy of my Class 2 and ophthalmic test report, I was done a few years back , but should be ok.

It will also mean that we won't have to fork out the full 400 notes for the class 1.

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Does anyone know whether they care very much about swimming ability? I notice for cabin crew they always specify that as essential, but, it doesn't say that for pilots. I ticked No to that question because honestly it takes me hours of splashing about to get anywhere. But, if they need that answer to be Yes, I can just go do some swimming practice. There was no third option for "no, but I could improve if you want me to with a week's notice". Is it either a requirement, or something they might use to whittle down the shortlist?
carb - you're worrying me. Can I offer a bit of friendly advice? I presume basically your whole life is revolving around getting this sponsorship. If so, then if you believe there is any chance at all that they may reject you at this stage due to the swimming question"I ticked No to that question " for gods sake just tick yes and go and get some practice!! Why shoot yourself in the foot?

Not suggesting for a moment you should tell porkies on an application form but it would be a good idea to play the game! Basic survival you know? Why would you give them any chance to reject you if you thought this was the case?

I'm genuinely just trying to be helpful as I know how much something like this means to people - so do remember, from the outset this is a tough business - some streetsmarts wouldn't go amiss.
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Yeah, well, fair enough, guess I'm just too up-front. My form of street-smart is 'no-nonsense', didn't view the form as a "guess the correct answers" test. Maybe I'll go back and adjust that answer. But as there was no warning, maybe they intend just scoring the answers so that if you're alright with most other criteria then it won't mean rejection. Last thing I would want is to get dismissed at the final stage because I still couldn't manage to swim very far and they find that out and worse still that I bluffed about it

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Has anyone seen or heard when the next selection dates will be after the december ones? Only I'm in a job at the minute which has a "no time off in december" policy unfortunately.
The other consideration is that I'm dangerously close to the magic 26 year cut off and wouldn't want to miss out. Anyone heard of selection dates for early next year?
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just wondering if anyone had the same issue as I'm having at the moment!! I was filling out the form when an error page came up and it would not let me revert back to the previous page, the only way out was to cancel the error and start again (new application no. given), but the program remembered my details and would not let me continue past page 1, I've tried to get into my original form but as I was not given a password before the form crashed, I can't enter it!! can anyone help?
Yes I am having the same problem, The option to have the password sent to my e-mail address sends a blank password. The webserver won't let me submit a new form it seems to base the comparision on Name and Date of Birth.

I have tried to contact CTC via e-mail but no luck. Hate to miss out over a computer Glitch
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Old 4th Dec 2002, 09:19
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Jonathang,
Send an email to the IT support at CTC McAlpine stating the problem. They will reply to you with your application form no. and a password which will allow you to continue. Below is the response that I got from them.

AK



"Sorry to hear that you have experienced a problem, This appears to have
been caused by people taking longer to complete the first stage of the
form that we first anticipated. We are working on a solution.

I have reset your application so that you can continue from where you
left off, I would suggest that you check all of the fields to ensure
that you have entered all the information correctly"
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Old 4th Dec 2002, 11:59
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Has anyone had a reply from CTC, regarding the second part of stage 1?
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CTC Mcalpine sponsorship

EIAK-No, I'm still waiting for a response about the second stage of phase one. With the selection days for stage 2 being so close, and having to get the medical/opthalmic reports filled out before then, I'm hoping I'll hear something soon!
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I'm a bit concerned that a number of you seem not to be fully aware of the details of what you are applying for, and some others are not exactly helping their chances!

In any job search, you must research the opportunities available to you. In this case, at the very least, I would visit, download and print out every relevant page from CTC-McAlpine's, easyJet's and JMC's (Thomas Cook) websites. I would then spend a couple of days reading all this information to be absolutley sure I understood the requirements, and had all the required information before I go anywhere near an application form. Take your time; this scheme is not going to go away tomorrow. A rushed and poorly filled-out application form will guarantee your failure to progress to the next stage.

If the employer requires so many A-levels, be prepared to prove that you have them - and not with copies of certificates; they are easily forged. If proof of medical fitness is required, don't rely on a Class 2 medical from years ago - go to your GP (an AME would be even better) and get a physical done. Go to an optician and get a full eye examination. 'I was all right in 1996' won't do. Pilots need medicals at least every year; why turn up with information less current? A question about swimming ability suggests that swimming is a required skill, doesn't it? Why disqualify yourself by saying you can't swim? Go and learn! And, by the way, this will almost certainly be tested in your training. Most airlines require their staff to be able to swim (in clothes, usually) to a survival raft at the other end of a 50m swimming pool at some point in their training.

So, do your research, satisfy all the objective requirements, take your time to get things right, don't disqualify yourselves. This is the next ten or twenty years of your life at stake.

Good luck.
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