Sponsorship chances.
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Sponsorship chances.
Sorry to talk about these sponsorships again.
I am just about to finish my A-levels and want to apply for the BA sponsorship next year.(Are they sponsoring????). I do want to go to University but if by some miracle I get anywhere next year I will put Uni off. Who wouldn't given that chance???
I just wanted to know if, in reality, BA would consider training an 18 year old or whether they really would prefer me to be older and have a degree?? I am VERY determined, the only problem is i'm sure all of us wannabees are!
I have 3As, 2Bs and 4Cs at Gcse and am predicted BCC at A-level just to give u an idea.
Thanks very much. La Fantasque.
I am just about to finish my A-levels and want to apply for the BA sponsorship next year.(Are they sponsoring????). I do want to go to University but if by some miracle I get anywhere next year I will put Uni off. Who wouldn't given that chance???
I just wanted to know if, in reality, BA would consider training an 18 year old or whether they really would prefer me to be older and have a degree?? I am VERY determined, the only problem is i'm sure all of us wannabees are!
I have 3As, 2Bs and 4Cs at Gcse and am predicted BCC at A-level just to give u an idea.
Thanks very much. La Fantasque.
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From: DXB
Do a search for BA Sponsorship, i thas been debated to death on here. Don't hold your breath for it starting in the near future.
As for when it does start, there will be a very looooong queue with me at the front(
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As for when it does start, there will be a very looooong queue with me at the front(
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La Fantasque,
As far as I am aware it is unlikely that BA will run a cadet scheme again for the foreseeable future and if they do it is probable that it will not be exactly the same as before. When they were running the scheme I think they asked for a minimum 2:2 degree but don't quote me on that.
I have to say though I would definitely go to university and let the market do its thing. Keep your options open is the best advice in the current climate!
As far as I am aware it is unlikely that BA will run a cadet scheme again for the foreseeable future and if they do it is probable that it will not be exactly the same as before. When they were running the scheme I think they asked for a minimum 2:2 degree but don't quote me on that.
I have to say though I would definitely go to university and let the market do its thing. Keep your options open is the best advice in the current climate!
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Like many people have already said, LF, it is something that has beem discused many times before but heres my 2 pence worth.
First of all I am suprised an eager beaver like yourself, didn't think to try out the British airways dedicated jobs website!
They require a min 2 A Levels A-C, degree in no means required, Min age on application is 18, max 26. So if you do decide to go to Uni and let the industry "settle down" then you come out with only 4 yrs worth of sponsorship searching available. after that, anywhere you will be too young. Then you'll need to start thinking about self sponsorship....AFTER you've paid off that uni debt, then you need to actually GET the money to self sponsor.....Lets say your 28, and now have the loan for £55K...you start training and now about 30, you've finished training....and.....your too old as a low houred pilot with no Jet/Turboprop experience, and yes, you have a £55K loan to pay off.
Personal, I am a teenage college drop out doing it self sponsored whilst I can, with fundraising help from my dad (very lucky I know). Aiming to get high passes in my JAA exams, and will be 19 when I am ready for employment...plenty of years for job searching and not with any large particular LOAN as such to pay off. ANdm whilst pilot job surfing, I can get a full time job to fund to keep up my hours and ratings valid.
It took me about 2 months of thinking. My backup plan, commercial training in IT have always loved IT so it won't bother me as it bores some people on the forum. (and yes, I have had work experience full time In IT).
Good luck with future decisions.
OBK!
P.s sorry about spelling but I really can't be bothered with this ErGOnoMic keyboard...temporary of course.
First of all I am suprised an eager beaver like yourself, didn't think to try out the British airways dedicated jobs website!
They require a min 2 A Levels A-C, degree in no means required, Min age on application is 18, max 26. So if you do decide to go to Uni and let the industry "settle down" then you come out with only 4 yrs worth of sponsorship searching available. after that, anywhere you will be too young. Then you'll need to start thinking about self sponsorship....AFTER you've paid off that uni debt, then you need to actually GET the money to self sponsor.....Lets say your 28, and now have the loan for £55K...you start training and now about 30, you've finished training....and.....your too old as a low houred pilot with no Jet/Turboprop experience, and yes, you have a £55K loan to pay off.
Personal, I am a teenage college drop out doing it self sponsored whilst I can, with fundraising help from my dad (very lucky I know). Aiming to get high passes in my JAA exams, and will be 19 when I am ready for employment...plenty of years for job searching and not with any large particular LOAN as such to pay off. ANdm whilst pilot job surfing, I can get a full time job to fund to keep up my hours and ratings valid.
It took me about 2 months of thinking. My backup plan, commercial training in IT have always loved IT so it won't bother me as it bores some people on the forum. (and yes, I have had work experience full time In IT).
Good luck with future decisions.
OBK!
P.s sorry about spelling but I really can't be bothered with this ErGOnoMic keyboard...temporary of course.
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There are rumours about restarting however I would advise if you are at all capable of gaining a good degree to go for the university route first.
Reason - the majority of those that BA have been taking in the recent past have not only had degrees but very often IT/business experience post-school or post-degree level. Additionally you stand in a good position in later life if you are made redundant or lose your medical. Put it this way - if those in front of you have just as much interest in flying but also a degree and proven track record of passing exams, who would you take?
Sure, go for it if you are able to when you get around to it, but make sure that you have a solid backup plan in motion and that you don't mince about gaining hours here and there. A driven person is what they want to see.
http://www.britishairwaysjobs.co.uk/...spts/index.jsp
Note on eligibility: Assuming you come out of university at 21 and try in that year, you actually have 6 attempts at BA. If you don't get it after 3 then perhaps it isn't for you.
Don't believe the rubbish about student debts - budget and work in holidays and you'll be fine. You have taken from you 9% of post-tax income above a threshold, so there is no need to desperately pay it off. If you are borrowing on credit cards at uni then yes you will, but that is a silly route to take. Take it from someone who has been to university instead of the hearsay.
Reason - the majority of those that BA have been taking in the recent past have not only had degrees but very often IT/business experience post-school or post-degree level. Additionally you stand in a good position in later life if you are made redundant or lose your medical. Put it this way - if those in front of you have just as much interest in flying but also a degree and proven track record of passing exams, who would you take?
Sure, go for it if you are able to when you get around to it, but make sure that you have a solid backup plan in motion and that you don't mince about gaining hours here and there. A driven person is what they want to see.
http://www.britishairwaysjobs.co.uk/...spts/index.jsp
Note on eligibility: Assuming you come out of university at 21 and try in that year, you actually have 6 attempts at BA. If you don't get it after 3 then perhaps it isn't for you.
Don't believe the rubbish about student debts - budget and work in holidays and you'll be fine. You have taken from you 9% of post-tax income above a threshold, so there is no need to desperately pay it off. If you are borrowing on credit cards at uni then yes you will, but that is a silly route to take. Take it from someone who has been to university instead of the hearsay.
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GO TO UNIVERSTIY, my advice anyway. I have friends who fly for BA and they say that the sponsorship prorgamme is off for a while!! I think that i would be unlikely that you would get on a sponsorship scheme at 18 anyhow, unless your absolutly amazing, which you night be!! With the calibre of Uni student who can apply i think the A level student would struggle..could be wrong of course.....My advice, go to Uni, join the RAF University Squadran, get some free flying, have a bloody good laugh and it will look great come interview time when BA are recruiting again, probably about the same time you would graduate!!
PS you dont have to join the RAF after Uni or anything, worth a look though..
Rotormad
PS you dont have to join the RAF after Uni or anything, worth a look though..
Rotormad
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To clarify - I meant business experience as in having worked in the wider world! Not as having worked as a business exec or something! Plus there are a few with IT jobs as shown by a profile of one of the courses that they had placed on the internet on their own webpage.
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Dear La Fantasque,
I wouldn't recommend joining the university air squadron unless you are seriously thinking of pursuing a career in the forces. When I went to University I applied to the air squadron but didn't fill all their criteria. In a BA sponsorship interview years later they asked about this. When I said I'd applied they then accused me of trying to use the RAF to gain free flying when I wasn't really interested in a career with the forces. I had to admit they had a point. You need a reason to join other than for free flying, otherwise BA can twist it to make you look bad,
TB
I wouldn't recommend joining the university air squadron unless you are seriously thinking of pursuing a career in the forces. When I went to University I applied to the air squadron but didn't fill all their criteria. In a BA sponsorship interview years later they asked about this. When I said I'd applied they then accused me of trying to use the RAF to gain free flying when I wasn't really interested in a career with the forces. I had to admit they had a point. You need a reason to join other than for free flying, otherwise BA can twist it to make you look bad,
TB
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Suggestion
Here is what I think
Get involved in aviation now and you will gain experiance in all fields and it can be well paid.
I am keen as musted to learn to fly like you, I am not one for sitting in UNI Bumin of the state getting in lots of debt. I began an apprenticeship with Airbus U.K.
At 22 I am an Aircraft Electrician A318, 319,320,321 & flight test on the Hamburg FAL I have landed a TAX FREE contract with all my living costs paid for.
So my point is I have good experiance of aircraft as we do alot of systems, Principles etc and I have a foot in the door I get to go on test flights and the most important thing I can save mony MYSELF to pursue the ambition.
Dont get me wrong I respect people with degrees ETC but as I have been told time and time again hands on is the best experience you can get
Get involved in aviation now and you will gain experiance in all fields and it can be well paid.
A foot in the door is worth a thousand c.v's!
At 22 I am an Aircraft Electrician A318, 319,320,321 & flight test on the Hamburg FAL I have landed a TAX FREE contract with all my living costs paid for.
So my point is I have good experiance of aircraft as we do alot of systems, Principles etc and I have a foot in the door I get to go on test flights and the most important thing I can save mony MYSELF to pursue the ambition.
Dont get me wrong I respect people with degrees ETC but as I have been told time and time again hands on is the best experience you can get
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Airbus.De:
If you're serious about getting into aviation via a degree, it's NOT likely
you're going to do one which constitutes "bumming off the state".
Most worthwhile degrees for the aviation industry require a lot of hard work!
The majority of useless degrees, on the other hand, won't.
Just a general point!!
Andy
If you're serious about getting into aviation via a degree, it's NOT likely
you're going to do one which constitutes "bumming off the state".
Most worthwhile degrees for the aviation industry require a lot of hard work!
The majority of useless degrees, on the other hand, won't.
Just a general point!!
Andy
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Lucifer
Still not sure what your on about mate-most people before they get sponsorhips have had jobs-thats generally because most people need to in order to live! I think people would be silly to "mould" themselves into what they think an airline wants to see. Instead better off being yourself, and doing something that they themselves find interesting and worthwhile, and not second guess an airlines requirements.
TG
Still not sure what your on about mate-most people before they get sponsorhips have had jobs-thats generally because most people need to in order to live! I think people would be silly to "mould" themselves into what they think an airline wants to see. Instead better off being yourself, and doing something that they themselves find interesting and worthwhile, and not second guess an airlines requirements.
TG
