Who are we all ???
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Who are we all ???
I thought it would be interesting to find out a bit about my fellow wannabes....... age, home, stage of training, occupation, salary bracket, goals for the next 18 months etc. I'm curious to see how other people manage their flying training.
I'll start the ball rolling then :
Age 26
Live with g/f. Rent in surrey.
Training : PPL, night, 85 hours total, just started ATPL ground
Occupation : Finance
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +
Where I think I'll be in 18 months : CPL, ATPL ground, instructor, very poor !!
I'll start the ball rolling then :
Age 26
Live with g/f. Rent in surrey.
Training : PPL, night, 85 hours total, just started ATPL ground
Occupation : Finance
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +
Where I think I'll be in 18 months : CPL, ATPL ground, instructor, very poor !!
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Age 26
Live with g/f. Just bought a house.
Training : CPL/IR, frozen ATPL 310 TT current medical class 1 and IR
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000
Where I think I'll be in 18 months : working in IT 2 years now.... and already gave up hope to become airline pilot someday.. so my guess in 18 months: still working in IT
Live with g/f. Just bought a house.
Training : CPL/IR, frozen ATPL 310 TT current medical class 1 and IR
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 4 1: £0 - £15000
Where I think I'll be in 18 months : working in IT 2 years now.... and already gave up hope to become airline pilot someday.. so my guess in 18 months: still working in IT
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Age 31
Live with partner. Mortgage
Training : PPL, IMC & Night 100TT
Occupation : Telecommunications
Salary level : 6
In 18 months: doing something else. Dependent on the market to determine what that something-else will be.
Live with partner. Mortgage
Training : PPL, IMC & Night 100TT
Occupation : Telecommunications
Salary level : 6
In 18 months: doing something else. Dependent on the market to determine what that something-else will be.
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Age 26
Live with g/f. Rent in Kent.
Training : 10 more hours to get my PPL, planning to start ATPL distance learning in January
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 3
1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +
In 18 months: I don't want to think about it too much, usually I don't achieve my long term plans...just want to be closer to my goal....you know what it is of course...
Live with g/f. Rent in Kent.
Training : 10 more hours to get my PPL, planning to start ATPL distance learning in January
Occupation : IT
Salary level : 3
1: £0 - £15000
2: £15001- £20000
3: £20001-£25000
4: £25001- £30000
5: £30001 £35000
6: £35001 +
In 18 months: I don't want to think about it too much, usually I don't achieve my long term plans...just want to be closer to my goal....you know what it is of course...
Why do it if it's not fun?
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Ok, here goes.
Age 27
Live on my own in a flat in Slough (mortgaged)
Training: PPL/night, 230 hours, 3/4 of the way through ATPL distance learning
Occupation: IT
Salary level: 6
In 18 months: I expect to have a CPL, and either have or be working towards either an IR or an Instructors rating. Will probably still be working in IT and flying whenever I can for fun, but there's always a chance I might be job-hunting for a flying job by then, especially if I decide to go down the instructor route. Also expect to be checked out on the Tiger Moth by then (plan to squeeze that one in next year some time), and may even have had a chance to get some formation flying training.
FFF
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Age 27
Live on my own in a flat in Slough (mortgaged)
Training: PPL/night, 230 hours, 3/4 of the way through ATPL distance learning
Occupation: IT
Salary level: 6
In 18 months: I expect to have a CPL, and either have or be working towards either an IR or an Instructors rating. Will probably still be working in IT and flying whenever I can for fun, but there's always a chance I might be job-hunting for a flying job by then, especially if I decide to go down the instructor route. Also expect to be checked out on the Tiger Moth by then (plan to squeeze that one in next year some time), and may even have had a chance to get some formation flying training.
FFF
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Age 28
Live with fiance (renting).
1600 TT, 250 multi, UK and NZ FATPL's.
Air ambulance pilot (Seneca and Navajo a/c)
Salary : just under half of level 1, if you convert from New Zealand dollars
18 months : Back in the UK, and filling a jet RHS ... so help me god!!
Live with fiance (renting).
1600 TT, 250 multi, UK and NZ FATPL's.
Air ambulance pilot (Seneca and Navajo a/c)
Salary : just under half of level 1, if you convert from New Zealand dollars
18 months : Back in the UK, and filling a jet RHS ... so help me god!!
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Age 25
Living with g/f Surrey
Training CPL/IR with ATPL subjects FI(R)
Very new Flying Instructor
Salary Level One
As an ex Hong Kong expat who lived there for 18 years Cathay Pacific is my ultimate goal. I hope when I obtain my 1000 hours to do a stint in Papua New Guinea for a year or so to build up some turbine hours
Living with g/f Surrey
Training CPL/IR with ATPL subjects FI(R)
Very new Flying Instructor
Salary Level One
As an ex Hong Kong expat who lived there for 18 years Cathay Pacific is my ultimate goal. I hope when I obtain my 1000 hours to do a stint in Papua New Guinea for a year or so to build up some turbine hours
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Age 33
Living with partner who owns own flat. Sold mine and used equity to help fund training.
Started training in Oct 2000 with 11 hours.
Did full time Modular and finished with 249hrs tt, Frozen ATPL.
That was Dec 2001. Spent about 60k in the process...
Returned to previous employer and took lower payed job while hunting for flying job
Current 13k p.a
In 18 months will be flying Cessna 172 Commercial VFR doing Aerial Photo and Survey. Trying to build more hours and keep the hand in.
Long shot on landing 1st RHS on any twin crew op.
Living with partner who owns own flat. Sold mine and used equity to help fund training.
Started training in Oct 2000 with 11 hours.
Did full time Modular and finished with 249hrs tt, Frozen ATPL.
That was Dec 2001. Spent about 60k in the process...
Returned to previous employer and took lower payed job while hunting for flying job
Current 13k p.a
In 18 months will be flying Cessna 172 Commercial VFR doing Aerial Photo and Survey. Trying to build more hours and keep the hand in.
Long shot on landing 1st RHS on any twin crew op.
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Age 26.
G/f fell by the wayside few months ago after numerous outbursts of the "Oh! So flying comes first?" variety.
PPL, Night, 150 hours, Doing ATPL's.
Salary level 1
18 Months time: Will definitely have completed ATPL writtens, and CPL. Beyond that, I cannot say. I have offers of work (non flying) in America, Canada, France, Germany, Australia, and NZ so I may just go abroad earn some $'s and keep flying.
Waiting and seeing. Probably sums up how the rest of us feel here!
And if anyone was wondering, my answer to the question above....
Too ****ing right it does
Cheers,
Mt Hellier
G/f fell by the wayside few months ago after numerous outbursts of the "Oh! So flying comes first?" variety.
PPL, Night, 150 hours, Doing ATPL's.
Salary level 1
18 Months time: Will definitely have completed ATPL writtens, and CPL. Beyond that, I cannot say. I have offers of work (non flying) in America, Canada, France, Germany, Australia, and NZ so I may just go abroad earn some $'s and keep flying.
Waiting and seeing. Probably sums up how the rest of us feel here!
And if anyone was wondering, my answer to the question above....
Too ****ing right it does
Cheers,
Mt Hellier
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Hi!
Here's my 2'pence worth
Age: 17
Live with sister (20) and dad (undisclosed lol). Dad helping out funding for my training...very lucky I know! Live in Yorkshire
Training : PPL, IMC, 124 hours total, just started ATPL ground....starting training next year, hopfully June/July...with LFS.
Occupation : Full time BGS distance learning
Salary level : 1 !!! easily 1 !!!
Where I want to be in 18mnths: Flying for a charter airline...767/757s
Where I think I'll be: On the same boat as you guys! still looking!
Here's my 2'pence worth
Age: 17
Live with sister (20) and dad (undisclosed lol). Dad helping out funding for my training...very lucky I know! Live in Yorkshire
Training : PPL, IMC, 124 hours total, just started ATPL ground....starting training next year, hopfully June/July...with LFS.
Occupation : Full time BGS distance learning
Salary level : 1 !!! easily 1 !!!
Where I want to be in 18mnths: Flying for a charter airline...767/757s
Where I think I'll be: On the same boat as you guys! still looking!
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Age: 50
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Here we go
Age 29
Married 1 newborn baby
Training;hold South African CPL/MULTI/IR,currently doing conversions and plodding through with groundschool at BGS,TT300hrs
Working fulltime aswell
Heavyily in debt
Age 29
Married 1 newborn baby
Training;hold South African CPL/MULTI/IR,currently doing conversions and plodding through with groundschool at BGS,TT300hrs
Working fulltime aswell
Heavyily in debt
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Age: 25
Live with parents. Wish I lived with g/f
Training: 90 hrs, studying ATPL exams full time.
Occupation: Nothing
Salary: None, zero, f*** all. Not even beer money.
18 months: RHS of big shiny jet; untill I wake up. Then crappy IT job, depressing middle class ****ty life. See Trainspotting poster for further details. Life eh?
Live with parents. Wish I lived with g/f
Training: 90 hrs, studying ATPL exams full time.
Occupation: Nothing
Salary: None, zero, f*** all. Not even beer money.
18 months: RHS of big shiny jet; untill I wake up. Then crappy IT job, depressing middle class ****ty life. See Trainspotting poster for further details. Life eh?
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Age: 37 (yeah I know ancient, but hoping maturity (!!!) an advantage one day
Living with g/f and 2 ankle biters in rented house
Training: 38 hours, approaching finishing PPL
Occupation: Running own business, working all hours godsend!
Salary : not as such, but profit approx level 5, shame I can't claim flying expenses against tax, it would be level 1 or less!!
In 18 months: would like to think I would have obtained CPL/ME, 150 hours, night and getting teeth into ATPL theory, modular route.
Hoping age won't blight any chance of progressing. Why is it in life that when you can earn opportunity , you are often too old to take advantage of it to the full.
Know I'd have to settle for not making it to LHS of 747 but happy to lower sights to eventual seat in 737 for regionals.
Living with g/f and 2 ankle biters in rented house
Training: 38 hours, approaching finishing PPL
Occupation: Running own business, working all hours godsend!
Salary : not as such, but profit approx level 5, shame I can't claim flying expenses against tax, it would be level 1 or less!!
In 18 months: would like to think I would have obtained CPL/ME, 150 hours, night and getting teeth into ATPL theory, modular route.
Hoping age won't blight any chance of progressing. Why is it in life that when you can earn opportunity , you are often too old to take advantage of it to the full.
Know I'd have to settle for not making it to LHS of 747 but happy to lower sights to eventual seat in 737 for regionals.
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Hi All!
Age 44 (Ancient but young at heart)
With wife and two sons (14 and 11), she's in the UK
Ex Air Force Fighters (21 Years) Flying Jaguars, Hunters, Migs, QFI, FSL(QWI) also retired member of 9 ac formation aerobatic team. T/T 4500. Left Air Force and flying captain on ATR-72s. ICAO ALTP. Am in the process of completing JAR Theoretical Exams, and looking for a job world wide on Jets.
Some time soon hope to fly in an aerobatic team in my spare time.
I think I was born a bird without feathers!
Age 44 (Ancient but young at heart)
With wife and two sons (14 and 11), she's in the UK
Ex Air Force Fighters (21 Years) Flying Jaguars, Hunters, Migs, QFI, FSL(QWI) also retired member of 9 ac formation aerobatic team. T/T 4500. Left Air Force and flying captain on ATR-72s. ICAO ALTP. Am in the process of completing JAR Theoretical Exams, and looking for a job world wide on Jets.
Some time soon hope to fly in an aerobatic team in my spare time.
I think I was born a bird without feathers!
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Age 23
live at home with the parents. Minus point - away from the girlfriend. Plus point - Away from the girlfriend......?!?! No, i don't mean that of course....
Work as a trainee accountant in the City.
Salary? c£25,000.
Q. How am i going to afford training??
A. Own an investment property with nil mortgage and substantial value!!!! Oh, no intention of marriage nor reproduction yet.
Experience......2 hours TT with a class 1.
Where do i see myself? As far away from any office as possible! Hopefully a fully loaded cpl/atpl etc. No matter how hard i have to try, how far i have to travel, I will, i repeat, i will, get in that rhs.
Ps, for those of you who think i'm illiterate because of my non use of caps, well i'm not. My keyboard is f****d!!!!
live at home with the parents. Minus point - away from the girlfriend. Plus point - Away from the girlfriend......?!?! No, i don't mean that of course....
Work as a trainee accountant in the City.
Salary? c£25,000.
Q. How am i going to afford training??
A. Own an investment property with nil mortgage and substantial value!!!! Oh, no intention of marriage nor reproduction yet.
Experience......2 hours TT with a class 1.
Where do i see myself? As far away from any office as possible! Hopefully a fully loaded cpl/atpl etc. No matter how hard i have to try, how far i have to travel, I will, i repeat, i will, get in that rhs.
Ps, for those of you who think i'm illiterate because of my non use of caps, well i'm not. My keyboard is f****d!!!!
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Buzz C152, nice idea mate, I have enjoyed reading throught this , so I thought I would contribute.
Age 27
Live with parents due to the fact the bank account is funding pilot training and not currently fueling the bank and a mortgage!
Training PPL, with 140 hours TT, due to start ATPL ground school on Jan 6th 2003.
Occupation Retired Aerospace Engineer. Stopped working last February after saving enough cash and to pursue pilot training.
Salary Now in the skint bracket, but was in the No.4 bracket.
In 18 months I would like to be working as a professional pilot as would we all. I know a few people in the aerial photography business, so may be able to obatin some experience there. Would ultimately like to fly passenger jets and have experiance of short haul and long haul, and end by retiring then sharing my experiences and teaching fellow wanabees.
Edited for shoddy spelling.
Age 27
Live with parents due to the fact the bank account is funding pilot training and not currently fueling the bank and a mortgage!
Training PPL, with 140 hours TT, due to start ATPL ground school on Jan 6th 2003.
Occupation Retired Aerospace Engineer
. Stopped working last February after saving enough cash and to pursue pilot training.Salary Now in the skint bracket, but was in the No.4 bracket.
In 18 months I would like to be working as a professional pilot as would we all. I know a few people in the aerial photography business, so may be able to obatin some experience there. Would ultimately like to fly passenger jets and have experiance of short haul and long haul, and end by retiring then sharing my experiences and teaching fellow wanabees.
Edited for shoddy spelling
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I second that, nice idea!
AGE 20
LIVE With parents
TRAINING PPL 50hrs with Night Rating, 2nd stage ATPL
OCCUPATION Full time airline Pilot wannabe
SALARY Best not to mention it
(rhymes with Hero!)
IN 18 MONTHS First thing first, a frozen ATPL would be nice, anything after that would be superb! My dream would be to be sat in the right hand seat of either a A319 or 737-NG with a low cost airline (to learn my trade )
AGE 20
LIVE With parents
TRAINING PPL 50hrs with Night Rating, 2nd stage ATPL
OCCUPATION Full time airline Pilot wannabe
SALARY Best not to mention it
(rhymes with Hero!)IN 18 MONTHS First thing first, a frozen ATPL would be nice, anything after that would be superb! My dream would be to be sat in the right hand seat of either a A319 or 737-NG with a low cost airline (to learn my trade
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OK, here we go
AGE 20
LIVE with, ahem.. granny
TRAINING 200Hrs, CPL multi IFR currently working on instructor rating
OCCUPATION Dispatcher, NAV GS instructor as of next week
SALARY about $20000 CDN
In 18 months from now, hopefully back home in manchester, JAA fATPL and flying something with more than one engine......
AGE 20
LIVE with, ahem.. granny
TRAINING 200Hrs, CPL multi IFR currently working on instructor rating
OCCUPATION Dispatcher, NAV GS instructor as of next week
SALARY about $20000 CDN
In 18 months from now, hopefully back home in manchester, JAA fATPL and flying something with more than one engine......
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Age: 22
Living: Back at home
Flying: CPL/MEIFR/ATPL theroy/1100hrs
Occupation: Deliver food to airplanes so others can go fly em and part time flier (not by choice)
Salary: hahahahahahaha, yeah right!
In 18 months, hopefully in a jet with a red tail or a nice biz jet from France.
Flying for Fun, if you want to keep that 6 in the salary column, you'd better go no further than doing it for fun!!
It's a shame that we all seem to broke
Living: Back at home
Flying: CPL/MEIFR/ATPL theroy/1100hrs
Occupation: Deliver food to airplanes so others can go fly em and part time flier (not by choice)
Salary: hahahahahahaha, yeah right!
In 18 months, hopefully in a jet with a red tail or a nice biz jet from France.
Flying for Fun, if you want to keep that 6 in the salary column, you'd better go no further than doing it for fun!!
It's a shame that we all seem to broke
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Age: 43 (with child like dreams and behaviour)
Just bought a house on the strength of my projected income from IT (oops)
1200 hrs TT 400 multi CPL/MEIR FI
Occupation: part time IT contract work (seems to be a common theme) Part time Flying Instructor. Part time Airtaxi/Corporate Flying
Salary : Yeah right! Some how I just seem to manage
In 18 months: still flying for a tenth of what I could earn elsewhere
Someone mentioned something about how we all seem to be broke? You are wrong. We fly for our dreams. We are wealthy. Just don't have much money that's all and who needs money in blue sky above the overcast?
Just bought a house on the strength of my projected income from IT (oops)
1200 hrs TT 400 multi CPL/MEIR FI
Occupation: part time IT contract work (seems to be a common theme) Part time Flying Instructor. Part time Airtaxi/Corporate Flying
Salary : Yeah right! Some how I just seem to manage
In 18 months: still flying for a tenth of what I could earn elsewhere
Someone mentioned something about how we all seem to be broke? You are wrong. We fly for our dreams. We are wealthy. Just don't have much money that's all and who needs money in blue sky above the overcast?